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cdpaine
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 12:09 pm    Post subject: Russell Gain system - Is this a scam

Russell Gain system.

http://www.wealth-security-freedom.info/

Is the initial fee all he charges?
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Jaison
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:35 pm    Post subject: Research it!

Make sure you research the company before becoming a member of it. Thousands of home-businesses are floating around. Some good others not so good. Final words, do your home work.

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traderruss
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:57 pm    Post subject: No scam

Dear sir
I have no idea why you wouldnt ask us directly for clarification and defer instead to a messageboard of people with no dealings whatsoever with me or my program.
I am an honest provider of work from home opportunities with a track record of almost 10 years to my credit.
My program is registered with the BBB and I am a full member in perfect standing with them.

If you care to read my website, you will soon see that the intial fee is not the only fee required for full participation. I suggest you take the time out to read the information on [url]http://60minutemoney.com [/url]thoroughly before you ask redundant questions from others who have no idea what my program is all about, or if you require clarification then email us directly. We are always happy to assist with a Smile

yours sincerely
Russell Gain
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traderruss
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:58 pm    Post subject: -

sorry mistake. i dont know how to delete a post

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Gobala Krishnan
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:06 am    Post subject:

If any of you guys can provide an unbiased description of this 60MM thing it would benefit everyone who reads it (w/o all the swearing and cursing and accusing).

I am curious as well...so please be neutral for a while and explain.

-gk-
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traderruss
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:42 pm    Post subject: answer you want

As I said before, please visit our website at http://60minutemoney.com and if you have any questions email us directly. There is no point in asking people who are not involved in my program or are competitors of ours. There is nothing objective or anything that could help you that they can possibly say.

sincerely
Russell Gain
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cdpaine
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:54 pm    Post subject: Is there a doctor in the house?

I would no more start or consider to start a home base business without a second opinion. Did not mean to offend anyone. I would get a second opinion from my physician. This is my family's future!! I will pursue any or all avenues of research good or bad. To help make an informed decision.

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traderruss
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:28 pm    Post subject: opinion sought

i understand, but logically how can you ask people who have no relationship with me or my program for an opinion?
your example of a doctor is not relevant because both have experience in medicine.
anyway, it sounds like you arent really serious and thats ok.
good luck
Russell
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Gobala Krishnan
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: Is there a doctor in the house?

cdpaine wrote:
I would no more start or consider to start a home base business without a second opinion. Did not mean to offend anyone. I would get a second opinion from my physician. This is my family's future!! I will pursue any or all avenues of research good or bad. To help make an informed decision.

Thanks


Russell,

I understand your concern. The guy who said all those nasty things was overboard. However, I think cdpaine should consult anyone he wants, especially asking for honest reviews in forums such as this.

If you think all his doubts or questions would be solved just by contacting you, then asnwer this question. Imagine it was me who contacted you asking for an honest explanation:

Question: What is the weakness / limitation of your 60MM system?

It is really up to him to ask for opinions and in the end he needs to decide for himself after taking into considerations the PROs and CONs.

IMHO that's how a rational decision is made, and that's how everyone should evaluate the opportunity that they seek.
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traderruss
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: email me

Of course you can consult anyone you wish. My point is you cant reasonably ask a person with zero information or a biased competitor for information about my program when they have no knowledge of it.
Please visit the website and review the information, I am not able to vchit chat on a message board like this all day. I have a huge business in 5 continents with people who have committed to my program that I need to help.
Have you visited the website? have you read all the information?
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Trustyone
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 2:19 am    Post subject:

Gobala Krishnan wrote:
If any of you guys can provide an unbiased description of this 60MM thing it would benefit everyone who reads it (w/o all the swearing and cursing and accusing).

I am curious as well...so please be neutral for a while and explain.

-gk-

Check http://www.bbbsoutheastflorida.org/nis/newsearch2.asp?ID=1&strBCode=06330000&ComID=0633000007002380
It appears to be a legitimate business selling and marketing Herbalife products.
They have not attracted any complaints at this bureau.
Why all the secrecy, smoke and mirrors. I will leave that to you.
cheers
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LittleCabbage336
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: My 2 cents

Traderruss,
I think you're taking cdpaine's question a little too personally. I understand you don't want people to be misled, bcs. there are a lot of people out there who've had bad experiences, through no fault of a company, and have chosen to blame that company anyway.
But this IS a "work-at-home" message board. You say,
"My point is you cant reasonably ask a person with zero information or a biased competitor for information about my program when they have no knowledge of it."
Well, did you ever think that those aren't the people cdpaine was reaching out to? cdpaine was trying to reach people who have dealt with your company.
To say, "There is nothing objective or anything that could help you that they can possibly say." is completely untrue, and you obviously don't understand the purpose of this board. This is the only place you'll find objectivism. I highly doubt your own website is completely objective, or you'd never sell anything. It may be true, it may be factual, but it is not objective.
Frankly, i think your posts are blunt and rude, and solely based on that, i would never consider working for someone with as little tact as you've shown. You get more flies with honey than with vinegar, sir. And your pushing the website seems to me you're hiding something.
BTW, cdpaine's analogy with the doctor was perfectly accurate
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:09 am    Post subject: More information

I would like to thank Russell for stopping me from taking any more interest in 60MM. I was casually looking for independent information about 60MM and this forum was my first hit. I was completely gob smacked by the naivety of his responses and the arrogant way in which he dismissed the concerns of the contributors - unbelievable.

My next hit was even more revealing. If you have time take a look at the following site I suggest you do - it's not specifically about 60MM but I'm quite sure that's it's an important insight into the distribution of Herbalife products, and its potential profitability:

http://www.cockeyed.com/workfromhome/workfromhome.html

If people are still interested in his company after they read this forum, the website above and any other information they can find then great, they made an informed decision. Surely, that's what the original post was all about.

Keep researching until YOU can make a balanced judgement.

Thanks Russell
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Trustyone
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 7:38 am    Post subject: Re: More information

Thanks Markgu,
appreciate your effort and insite.
I got a 'work from home" flier the size of a business card, in my mailbox which started my research and eventually led me to this forum.

What a great read is the cockeyed website. I commend it and suggest anyone contemplating "working at home??" or herbalife have a thorough read.
The web is a great source of information. Lets work to keep it that way.

thank you

markgu wrote:
I would like to thank Russell for stopping me from taking any more interest in 60MM. I was casually looking for independent information about 60MM and this forum was my first hit. I was completely gob smacked by the naivety of his responses and the arrogant way in which he dismissed the concerns of the contributors - unbelievable.

My next hit was even more revealing. If you have time take a look at the following site I suggest you do - it's not specifically about 60MM but I'm quite sure that's it's an important insight into the distribution of Herbalife products, and its potential profitability:

http://www.cockeyed.com/workfromhome/workfromhome.html

If people are still interested in his company after they read this forum, the website above and any other information they can find then great, they made an informed decision. Surely, that's what the original post was all about.

Keep researching until YOU can make a balanced judgement.

Thanks Russell
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Tim Moore
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:07 pm    Post subject:

Thank you from me as well!

A great read and saved me loads of money and effort too!

Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

Tim
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