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lauren227nicole
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#1 · Posted: 1 Jul 2009 11:43
Okay, I am pretty new to the online marketing scheme. And I am currently going through the My Online Income System Course, and am beginning to do my own site now.
I tried GoDadday and HostGator and loads more, but their sites are way too confusing and stuffy. I feel the GoDaddy site has too much to click on, and is not very organized. I get lost trying to figure out what services they provided.
I found GDI and liked it, since it was so simple. I just really like how things are organized and how everything comes with their service.
I get charged $10 a month for a domain, hosting, templates, web builder, parking, and more. I'm not sure if this is good or not, but I am clueless when trying to build a site, and this is the only one that I can use. Heres a link <Snip> to check it out.
Please forgive the cheesy video trying to pitch to you to become an affiliate. I am trying to figure out how to just show people the websites, and not to become affiliates. Just click off it for more info.
And I think at the bottom of the form to sign up gives you the option to opt-out of being an affiliate, it allows you to see the products only. Or you can do both. But personally, I like be able to have more domains available to me, since all the good .coms are taken.
Does anyone else use GDI? And could you please let me know what you think? Are there any pitfalls? Oh, and is there something better, and cheaper? I'm ALWAYS looking for a deal! Especially wen just starting out and having no $! 
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#2 · Posted: 1 Jul 2009 12:26
I don't know if there is anything cheaper or not but I only pay $25 a month for the whole SBI system which is way more than just a website.
It would be easier to just pay $25 a month but there are reasons they have it set up the way they do at $299 a year and what I did was save up from what I made online then invested into the SBI.... but omg, I am so glad I did.
Even if you don't get the system, you can still get the free affiliate masters course where you can learn a lot for free...
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lauren227nicole
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#3 · Posted: 1 Jul 2009 18:04
Just read your blog! Very informative! I might have to check out SBI after the MOIS course. For now, I'll stick with $10 a month until I make a sale....
And I have no problem bouncing stuff back and forth in the forum. I was just having a hard time finding stuff in the forums, because I was finding there were 10 conversations going on for one topic. Trying to do that while chasing a one-year old kind of made me put off coming here. I swear, my attention span is that of a peanut right now! 
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yahia
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#4 · Posted: 1 Jul 2009 19:52
I don't consider GDI a hosting company, I use it as a source of income only.
To build a website for your business, at one point you'll need MySQL, Cron jobs, installers (like Fantastico), a content manager (like Joomle or Wordpress) ... There is no way for those to run on GDI hosting.
Besides, there are hosting companies offering a much bigger (10-100 times bigger) and user friendly hosting package than GDI's for free.
If you only need a landing page with an autoresponder form, or a website with adsense or any other ads on it, and you don't expect a lot of traffic for the rest of your life, use GDI. The best use of GDI hosting is for personal websites.
But if you'll need to setup a membership site or use your own autoresponder or tracking software, GDI doesn't support them.
Think of GDI only as a source of residual income, and target people who just want to build a personal website.
BUT ....
The way GDI is structured, in my opinion, doesn't promise longe term existence. The bonuses they pay every week could be used to enhance the hosting package and give the product more value. I also don't understand how GDI affords that much in bonuses.
About SBI Viola , I think of it like driving an automatic car versus a stick-shift one. With automatic transmission you don't need to worry about anything as long as it is in a good shape. But once it stops working you'll need twoing and it costs as much as the engine (sometimes more) to replace it.
Stick-shift transmission needs a part of your mind at the beginning, then it becomes second nature to you, and you stay in control as long as you are behind the wheal. And if it stops working, at least you can push it away from the road stream and it costs a couple hundreds to completely replace it in some models.
I personally prefer stick-shift transmission over automatic, Linux over Windows (the same concept) and building my own website over SBI. Being in control is pricelss.
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#5 · Posted: 1 Jul 2009 23:05
yahia: About SBI Viola , I think of it like driving an automatic car versus a stick-shift one.
lol - great description
Isn't it great that there are things for everyone? I tried doing my own thing with a website but I am still not very html savvy and all the MySQL, Cron jobs, installers , Fantastico, content managers stuff made my feeble head spin....so I went with something that was step by step... maybe someday I will graduate to a stick shift...
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yahia
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#6 · Posted: 2 Jul 2009 00:55
mountainmom5: Isn't it great that there are things for everyone?
This is the beuty in it. There is a place for the nerds and there is room for normal humans.
That's why I always say: search the market first. Not because I wont buy it no body else would, and vise versa.
But seriously. being in control is always my first priority. This is my source of income. This is how I support my family. If one day my host decides to shut me down my family will starve. Same for squidoo, my autoresponder, all of my money making tools.
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#7 · Posted: 2 Jul 2009 09:52
mountainmom5: I tried doing my own thing with a website but I am still not very html savvy and all the MySQL, Cron jobs, installers , Fantastico, content managers stuff made my feeble head spin....so I went with something that was step by step... maybe someday I will graduate to a stick shift...
Hi M5,
I think that SBI is the perfect choice for you at this point in time. It may even be good to stick with it exclusively for a while.
Once you get reasonably comfortable with it - perhaps by the end of next year - definitely learn HTML and CSS. I think that SBI will last for a long time, but as Yahia pointed out, it could go under. Same thing with Squidoo.
Some day you will want to know the said languages and you will want the perpetual existence, flexibility, and additional power that comes with self-hosting.
Furthermore, I highly recommend against purchasing a second SBI site - ever. Let your next site be self-hosted.
As an aside, MySQL is simply a database management system. It's like a group of tables that store data. Think of it as powerful spreadsheet - tables with rows and columns.
Cron Jobs are nothing more than scheduled jobs. Substitute the word "cron" for "time" and you'll understand. You simply set up various jobs to run at various times.
One job might be to send a backup of your database via email each month on a certain day. That's all there is to it.
An installer just installs things. Fantastico is a good example of an installer. It installs things such as programs (like WordPress) on your web server.
A content manager might be something like WordPress. WordPress is a content management system. It is software that is designed to help you manage your data - including displaying posts.
It currently uses MySQL as it's database management system to store, manipulate, retrieve data for display. You've used WordPress so you know how it works for the end user.
HTML is simply an easy to learn formatting language. CSS makes site management much quicker and easier. It also makes the pages load faster. If also offers more precision when placing elements on a page such as a table or a picture.
With CSS you can make a change such as font size or font color to a small part of a CSS style sheet and the effects will take place immediately across the entire site.
If you wanted to do that with HTML, you'd have to go in and recode every page. I'm sure you can imagine how much time you'd save.
Anyways, nothing to fear if you just spend a little time with these things. Again, SBI is great for you at this point in time. But like Yahia said, don't let that be the end. Take complete control of your next site - self hosting.
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mountainmom5
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#8 · Posted: 2 Jul 2009 10:48
wow - thanks NS. you have such a way of making me feel not so small and peanuty... And believe me, I am learning a whole heck of a lot with my SBI site this round around about html and css so I may just be rolling into my own site next year - I keep getting closer...
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realityshifter
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#9 · Posted: 2 Jul 2009 11:54
lauren227nicole: Does anyone else use GDI? And could you please let me know what you think? Are there any pitfalls? Oh, and is there something better, and cheaper? I'm ALWAYS looking for a deal! Especially wen just starting out and having no $!
I availed of GDI's free trial period. Sorry if I disappoint you but my honest impression is that it is a pyramiding scheme. It has no real product except ITSELF. The website you are given and the DVDs you are encouraged to buy are for the promotion of GDI. The income you receive, if ever, are from your monthly membership fees - not from sale of any real product.
There is a litmus test for authenticity of any MLM opportunity - if you opt not to promote it, will you stay with it because you like the product(s) and you can just be a consumer? Please try applying this test to GDI.
In GDI you are charged $10 a month so you can continue the privilege of promoting it. If for any reason you fail to recruit people, then you're just bleeding financially every month with no value in return - because there is no real product or service involved.
GDI has all the tell tale sign of being just a pyramiding scheme.
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yahia
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#10 · Posted: 2 Jul 2009 13:23
realityshifter: Sorry if I disappoint you but my honest impression is that it is a pyramiding scheme.
Hold on RealityShifter, No GDI is not a pyramid scheme.
In pyramids there is no real product and you make money by recruiting only. This is ILLEGAL.
realityshifter: It has no real product except ITSELF.
realityshifter: In GDI you are charged $10 a month so you can continue the privilege of promoting it. I
No my dear. GDI has a product: a domain name and a hosting package. You like it or not is another story. I pay $10 for a business plan with 1 and 1, and I get a thousand times better hosting package than the one I get from GDI (a stick-shift kind of hosting), but this is another story.
My point is: there is a product, and it used to be an OK product when the company started. Now the product is not competitive enough and I believe the company needs to make an extreme makeover to stay in business. But this doesn't make it a pyramid.
realityshifter: if you opt not to promote it, will you stay with it because you like the product(s) and you can just be a consumer?
Yes, for some people GDI hosting + a domain package is enough to stay a customer regardless of the business opportunity. All what they need is a website they can manage easily without any technical knowledge, and will never need any of the other features in Newbie Shield's post above.
And yes, there is a free hosting package that is 100 times bigger than GDI's, but it's free. The host could just disappear at any time and you'll have to start all over with another host, and this time you'll learn to pay to get a stable service.
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#11 · Posted: 2 Jul 2009 23:17
yahia: No my dear. GDI has a product: a domain name and a hosting package.
I took a look at your member page. Is that website there your GDI website? If not can you post your GDI url so that we can take a look?
yahia: My point is: there is a product, and it used to be an OK product when the company started. Now the product is not competitive enough and I believe the company needs to make an extreme makeover to stay in business. But this doesn't make it a pyramid.
I used the term REAL PRODUCT. My point is it doesn't seem to have a product one would like to have outrside of the GDI business paln. The "products" - the website and the promotional DVDs are not products one would like to have if one is not interested in promoting GDI. At least that's how it appeared to me.
That's why I said the product is the company itself - the website and the DVDs are mere promotional materials. You buy into the GDI plan so that you can promote GDI through the website and DVD and induce others to do the same. If you don't like to promote GDI would you pay $10 monthly so that you can keep your website? The second product are the DVDs. Again, if you are not interested to promote GDI, would you buy the DVDs just the same and enjoy watching them day in and day out for relaxation and entertainment?
If there is no real product then the essence is recruitment. One goes to GDI so that one can recruit others and make money in the process. The monthly membership fee of $10 becomes a disguised recurrent monthly recruitment fee and is the real source of income for everyone participating in the scheme.
I could be wrong. But let me see your GDI website.I might have a change of mind. Thanks.
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#12 · Posted: 2 Jul 2009 23:42 · Edited by: yahia
My GDI website is people-search-online.ws
The DVDs are promotional tools, not products. And you are free to use them or not.
I already answered the rest of your questions, please go back to my post.
Although I am not a big fan of GDI, but it makes me money. There is market for their product, and as an affiliate you need to get the market to see your product.
There are two markets actually, those who need simple webhosting and don't want to learn the techies, and those who are into MLM like yourself.
I am thinking to start a new thread for GDI promotion ideas, but here are some:
1. Find the group of people who want to have their first website. Sell them the webhosting and domain package, + the "automatic" site builder for $10. If they think it's too much for the this hosting package compared with other companies you can sell them this idea: refer 10 and it's yours free.
2. Find the group of people who need to start a home business and need webhosting. Your job is to convince them that if they build their website with GDI they can get it for free by referring just 10 people. For beginners GDI's package is more than enough.
3. Design a money making system and sell it (don't give it away). Recommend GDI hosting for applying your system on basis that it can be a free hosting just by referring 10 people.
By the way, I don't promote GDI anymore. My downline is taking care of it.
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#13 · Posted: 3 Jul 2009 21:12
My opinion on GDI? Get ready for a headache.
Global Domains Internation isn't a real webhosting company. 100 megs or 10 pages whichever comes first doesn't mean hosting, it's just ... blah. I'm sorry but Simple Scripts Blog and Overblog which use flatfiles instead of databases are more powerful than GDI's hosting and only take up 10 KB space freshly installed. Plus nobody is going to be able to make 10 web pages equal up to 100 megs, so no, no thank you. I can't even use that service even if I wanted to.
The .ws domain name? Why would I want something from Western Samoa? .ws stands for Western Samoa, not Web Site. I'd rather get a free domain from Revolutionary Matrix or go to www.dot.tk www.cjb.net or www.freedomains.co.nr before the WS, they look better.
Their website builder is an out of the box template engine that's over used by too many people. I wouldn't use it anyway because the templates to me look like something that makes me want to gouge my eyeballs out with a spoon and then eat them to make sure I could never see something like it again. Just gaudy and lack good design.
Regarding the money making opportunity with it, it's over saturated and most of the marketers on there are blackhat marketers. They either steal traffic, use subliminal messages (I saw a GDI video that had a split moment of a naked woman with her boobs pointing to the description and across the breasts read "Click the Link". Sorry) They'll steal traffic from other companies by using other company names in their description and tags and you'd be surprised about the number of them that use Tube Increase or Tube Thumper to get their views on youtube faked to rank higher.
The other reason is their premade easy to use selling websites are overly used and ever time I saw one prior to getting into GDI I always labeled as a quick and easy scam which if I saw them that way, you can imagine how many other people see it that way right now.
The other reason is the market is over saturated, there's so many of them using video marketing that it's insane and very few of them actually use viral tactics at all and the one's that do are currently failing because it all looks like a scam to their viral readers and memberbase so the viralhood of it dies quickly.
I've tried this from personal experience. GDI is something that doesn't work well in traffic exchanges, banner exchanges, link swaps, plug boards, blogs, video, various syndication methods, etc. Reason behind it is that it's too gaudy, too simple, too few services, not enough sweets.
I recommend staying away from GDI just because of the fact that it's so hard to sell and people like me find GDI to be completely useless.
There are other webhosting companies though. And if you personally think cPanel is confusing, wait until you get introduced to SSH.
If GDI is for you then something else would be for you even more. There are programs out there that don't involve webhosting but other forms of hosting or networking that are very useful and often times fun. A little research will provide more details on this. I recommend www.google.com and for your novice built website http://sites.google.com . Thank you
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#14 · Posted: 3 Jul 2009 21:29
Newbie Shield, how do you self-host? Is that even possible for someone as inexperienced like me?
And does anyone know of any comparable hosting sites that do the same thing as GDI?
I thought GoDaddy might have been the place to do it, but now I am not so sure. I learned html in high school, and now I am clueless with CSS. Why do things have to keep changing?
And about SBI, I have read reviews and it should a lot like MOIS. For someone in my situation financially, would you honestly recommend the product? I'm a hardworker and willing to put as much time as needed, but I really can not afford to lose money right now.
Sorry, I guess I'm still a skeptic in some ways. I'm terrified of spending more than I need to. Especially with an infant, when the money could go to something tangible...
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#15 · Posted: 3 Jul 2009 21:37
Thanks Glenn! I missed your post by a few minutes when I posted.
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#16 · Posted: 3 Jul 2009 22:52
lauren227nicole: I thought GoDaddy might have been the place to do it
Since you are going to use your website for business stay away from GoDaddy. It takes one spam report and you lose your domain and your files. Even if you only get the domain from GoDaddy, they claim ownership of the domain with the first spam complaint. Then to get it back you'll be fined $100 or so, and it is not a straight forward process.
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#17 · Posted: 4 Jul 2009 21:12
Hi lauren227nicole (Yahia below),
Self hosting just means to open your own hosting account. I'd recommend either HostMonster, HostGator, or BlueHost.
Before opening your own account I suggest that you know online marketing well, know all about webmastering, and have a clear plan in regards to your first domain name and first topic. Else it will take you a while to learn the ropes and you might end up paying for an entire year before you even launch.
It's also best to learn CSS beforehand for the reasons I've stated. It's easier to learn than HTML - especially if you already know HTML.
If you intend to use WordPress, it's best to know it fairly well before you open a paid hosting account.
I'd recommend taking the 30 Day Challenge first and experimenting for a while before considering paid hosting (self hosting).
Long story short - you have to know quite a bit and know it well before you take on paid hosting. It's a last step sort of thing. It's also the best step you'll ever take.
Yes, I am quite convinced that SBI is a great choice for those that are not quite ready for traditional paid hosting. It's a complete system for online marketing and hosting. You can't move your site to another host though so keep that in mind. That's one reason I would never consider getting more than one SBI site.
Yahia: What do you mean by "spam" in reference to GoDaddy? Does it apply to domain forwarding and/or masking?
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#18 · Posted: 5 Jul 2009 00:31
Yes Newbie Shield. A spam complaint that involves your domain name (email at the domain, a link in the message body, a spamming affiliate ... etc) is enough for GoDaddy to claim ownership of the domain. Then after a lenghty process with their customer service and spam complaint departments you pay $100 to get it back.
I buy my domains from namecheap. A friend of mine knows the French owner, just in case, but I never had a spam complaint so far.
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#19 · Posted: 5 Jul 2009 22:28
Yahia,
Thanx for clarifying. I hadn't heard that one b4.
Yeah, NameCheap is a good place to get domains.
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#20 · Posted: 5 Jul 2009 23:09
You're welcome Newbie Shield
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