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Jen73 Forums Member
Joined: 5 Feb 2012 Posts: 2
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#21 · Posted: 5 Feb 2012 20:44 Reply
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Could somebody please explain to me why when I put a keyword into the google keyword finder it says it is low competition but then when I put that word into a google search (in the "" and with the allintitle) it comes up with over 1.5 million results??? How can that be low competition? I can't seem to get any results for keywords related to my niche that come up with less than a million results!! I'm very new to this and have only been looking today but feeling a bit disheartened and could do with some serious help
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happywife
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#22 · Posted: 6 Feb 2012 01:06 Reply
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Hi Jen73,
Are you referring to Googles keyword tool for adwords? If so, I believe the "competition" you are seeing is not how much competition there is in the search results, but rather how much competition there is for advertisers bidding on that keyword phrase.
Those would be two completely different things and that's why I think you are getting confused by the different results.
I'm not up on the latest "free" keyword tools, because I use the brainstorming keyword tool that's included in SBI, but I believe Wordtracker still has their 7 day free trial if you want to do a serious week of keyword research.
Someone else who uses a good free keyword tool might be able to make some recommendations, but I'm really not sure if there IS a good free one for what you're looking for.
However, let me give you this tip about looking for LOW competition keywords. You will usually find that you'll find less competitive keywords when you revert to a phrase rather than a single keyword.
For example, "Valentine Gifts" is going to be a lot more competitive than "Valentine gifts for boyfriends" and so forth. That may help you find lower competition phrases by thinking of the whole phrase someone might be typing in the SE without a paid keyword tool.
Blessings, Angie
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Jen73 Forums Member
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#23 · Posted: 6 Feb 2012 06:48 Reply
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Thanks Angie,
That's brilliant advice, you are right yes I was confusing the low competition as referred to on the adwords keywords tool with low competition in search results! That make it much clearer, thanks.
So should I be at all bothered as to whether a word or phrase has high competition when it come to the google adwords tool? I suppose this just makes the clicks more expensive? So it would be better to go for low competition in that respect?
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happywife
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#24 · Posted: 6 Feb 2012 07:12 Reply
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Jen73: So should I be at all bothered as to whether a word or phrase has high competition when it come to the google adwords tool? I suppose this just makes the clicks more expensive? So it would be better to go for low competition in that respect? It depends on what you're doing? I personally like the competition to be high in the Google Adwords tool, because one of the ways I make money is through Google Adsense.
I have theme based websites (like my chocolate-candy-mall.com site) and the greater the competition in Adwords, the higher the click value when someone clicks on an ad on my site.
However, if I were to use Google Adwords for paid advertising (which I don't), I would want the competition to be low so I wouldn't have to pay much for the ads.
I believe Tal (another forum member) uses paid advertising a lot, so perhaps he could advise you if you are going that direction. One of the best to follow, though, for using Google Adwords is Perry Marshal.
Just do a search on his name and you'll find his site. He's got a free Adwords tutorial and just some overall good info.
I prefer not to spend money on advertising (at this point) and rely completely on free search traffic. That's why I do keyword research for those phrases I illustrated above that have lower competition and higher demand.
Hopefully that helps explain things a bit further. Blessings, Angie
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#25 · Posted: 8 Feb 2012 07:14 Reply
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thanks, Sahan, that's a heck of a post, bro.
however, if i may, i'd like to mention an seo tool that helps you do what you describe faster and in bulk.
i'm talking about the rank tracker by link-assistant (i thought i'd specify, cause almost any seo software provider has one :confused
what it does is,
- it tells you the search volumes - it tells you the competition - it calculates keyword efficiency index for each keyword - if you use google analytics, it will even tell you expected visits (how many people will visit your site if you rank it number one on google).
plus, the tool just got redesigned (check out the new look here), and is now even easier to use. besides, there is a free trial.
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DugMg Forums Member
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#26 · Posted: 8 Feb 2012 14:54 Reply
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Sahan Asad I've always use quotes to help reduce the amount of hits I got back.
But now that I understand long keyword tails it all makes sense. The people who use that search phrase are really your TARGET group.
Anyone who clicks on a link that comes up in the 1st page or two is a motivated prospect.
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#27 · Posted: 11 Feb 2012 10:39 Reply
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[b]happywife Thanks Angie,
That really is good advice. I too am having the same problems and found your advice very helpful. Thanks for the tip.
All the best.
Ritu Anand
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#28 · Posted: 12 Feb 2012 07:05 Reply
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Sahan Asad Wow, thanks Sahan - that is tremendous information - will help a lot when i search for keywords next time. Your knowledge and help in imparting it is highly appreciated.
Thanks and have an awesome day.
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#29 · Posted: 16 Feb 2012 06:36 Reply
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Just spent last 2 days with seo software and I have learnt more in this post than I did with the software
Thanks
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#30 · Posted: 19 Feb 2012 05:35 Reply
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These are some great tips.This is why its important to use the option "Exact" when you research keyword with Google keyword research tool and thus give you the actual idea of the competition.
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#31 · Posted: 5 Mar 2012 12:22 Reply
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Hi folks. I've just joined. Thanks to everyone for the valuable information. I'm just starting out and it is very useful. You may be interested in a keyword research program called Market Samurai. It comes with a free trial. It's very expensive to buy but I am told you can use the keyword research tool free forever. I've tried it and it seems to work well given my limited knowledge.
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Ritu Anand Forums Member
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#32 · Posted: 8 Mar 2012 02:08 Reply
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The problem is that there are so many tools out there to help that sometimes one gets a bit confused. Every page you look at will give you a new link to try something else. I think looking for free traffic initially is the way to go, until, one has learnt enough to be able to make proper use of the free trials that these tools allow.
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#33 · Posted: 1 May 2012 08:54 Reply
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I think it is very difficult to find less than 10, 000 pages keyword but if you give time you can find.
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