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TJamMoneyMan
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#201 · Posted: 25 Apr 2010 20:39 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
mtran2000: Cash gifting is definitely a scam.
This thread is NOT about cash gifting.
This thread is supposed to be about BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES.
Specifically the BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY of Melaleuca.
Show the facts about the BUSINESS OPPORTUINTY of Melaleuca, and DARE to answer some basic questions.
Instead, you Mel promoters come here extolling Mel products, in an effort to get folx to buy, so you can get your MLM Pyramid profit payouts.
mtran2000: However a lot of people just buy the products and have no interest in working the business.
HOW can you tell what "a lot people... have no interest" in?
What about the countless numbers of folx who give up on buying Mel products because they finally realize there is virtually NO HOPE of business success in selling Melaleuca products?
melanow: 65% of the customers are there just to get high quality non toxic products at a discount price 35% choose to build a business, but they do not distribute the product.
Interesting statistic.
1) Would you like to state the SOURCE of this data?
2) How do you know these customers "are there just to get... products".
3) And since you are quoting percentages, what percentage of these Melaleuca "build a business" people find economic success, and what percentage of "build a business" people drop out/quit Melaleuca?
singlemom4boys: I quit when I quit my job and couldn't pay the monthly product fee.
melanow: You don't have to pay any monthly product fees.
So, is there a 'monthly product fee' or not?
singlemom4boys: The products are really great and I may rejoin just to buy them at the customer price
melanow: There are 2 customer options, it all depends on what kind of customer a person would like to be.
Do you mind explaining what those options are, and the price differences?
melanow: It is called "consumer direct marketing" You have already been told that in 2 previous posts.
Once AGAIN, Melaleuca is an MLM!
And like most MLM's, Melaleuca would like you to think otherwise.
It is 'called' 'Consumer Direct Marketing' (by Melaleuca promoters) ONLY because that is a REGISTERED TRADEMARK of Melaleuca.
Melaleuca PAID MONEY for the right to call themselves a CDA,
and to say that they are "the only CDA in the world" - their oft repeated corporate line.
Melaleuca is an MLM, regardless of what euphemistic term Melaleuca can imagine, or register as their own special trademark.
I have mentioned this before, as you Melaeuca promoters insist on repeating the same euphemistic BS in attempt to hide the FACT that Melaleuca is an MLM!
If I am repeating myself in this thread, it is because you Melaleuca pushers are repeating the same corporate line, propaganda, BS.
Talk about the BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY of Melaleuca if you dare.
And answer the questions I have fairly put before you.
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#202 · Posted: 25 Apr 2010 21:15
Sometimes the best customers become the best representatives. There is nothing wrong with stepping out and trying the products first and then if you like them, take that passion and turn it into profits if you so desire.
Jerry
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#203 · Posted: 28 Apr 2010 09:21
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thegiftlady
Thank you the giftlady. I was considering joining Melaleuca to perhaps become a distributor but I don't want the burden of having to order $60 of products every month. like you, we do not spend that much on a monthly basis to clean ourselves and our home and we are very clean! I use environmentally friendly products and they last quite a while and are much less than $60 a month. I was under the impression that this business was free to join, but it is apparent that nothing in life is free! I will reconsider joining and perhaps just purchase products when i need them.
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#204 · Posted: 5 May 2010 09:31
Like most here I just had to respond. Like my in-laws most people do not know what to look for in any company, especially a Network marketing company. I have been in this industry since the 80's. My in-laws were excited to tell me about Melaleuca and how great it is. All of their information came from a meeting they attended. I research everything first (http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/unauthorized-charges-c176193.html).
I am not a Melaleuca rep or customer but was considering it but from my research I would buy the products probably on Ebay. They remind me of AOL. Once they get your CC info good luck getting rid of them! I am now a rep for Doterra CPTG essential oils for one reason only, because the company leadership, product and comp plan are superb. I researched them to the hilt and have found NOTHING but a desire to represent themselves the way I want to represent. All those that are saying expect a little something with every company I invite you to do your research on Doterra. I am very open to any information that shines a light on anything my name is tied to. I do not take it personally but I am responsible to be honest and ethical to those I love and care about! That is the way ANY business should be approached. DoTerra is only the 2nd Network Marketing company since 1994 that I have examined and I am 100% behind, since 1994. Do your homework!
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#205 · Posted: 5 May 2010 17:57
Nothing out here will work unless you do! A bad attitude will get ya down every time!
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#206 · Posted: 13 May 2010 18:41
I just have to say I love Melaleuca IWe have been using it for about a year It has been hard finding people to work with I would like some help with growing my business if possible. I think once you try the products you will totally understand why they are so great. 
If you have any advice please let me know thank you.
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#207 · Posted: 14 May 2010 04:51 · Edited by: 21decadeniche
Picture paints a thousand words.
Figure prove a unique business opportunity.
Enough said 
It was just 1/3 of that particular month.
See you at the Melaleuca Top Chapter
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#208 · Posted: 14 May 2010 05:39
Honestly keep buying products every month even if you are not Going to use really makes no sence.
They key in business is profitability. Make sure u earn more than u spend.
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#209 · Posted: 15 May 2010 00:41 · Edited by: 21decadeniche
If only you like selling product, to exploit people money for the sake of profit, paying more without saving(repeat this) and the company you are engaging is hardly have a percentage rate of repeat sales, no matter how hard you put your effort, a customer would still smart in looking at other place to buy.
BTW, at Melaleuca, a consumer have a chance to receive a check without they have to refer to anyone.
The spending of 35P in Melaleuca ensures that your customer stay with you forever.
Without the 35P, I 100% won't join at all.
Get it or still unable to see the critical point?
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#210 · Posted: 16 May 2010 19:59 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
21decadeniche: Figure prove a unique business opportunity. Enough said
The only reason this Melaleuca, and scores of other MLM's have expanded to population dense areas like Asia, is that MLM's, like ALL pyramids, quickly saturate their original market and need to expand outside of their country of origin.
The first to 'get in' will no doubt do well.
But eventually they will be making suckers out of those below them.
Those on the lower MLM levels, simply don't profit.
Some will, with AGRESSIVE marketing.
But no matter HOW HARD the marketing, there are simply NOT ENOUGH people IN THE WORLD, to make the bottom level members profitable.
Please take a look at sites that post INFORMATION about the MLM craze like mlm-thetruth.com.
Then post what it is that you think makes Melaleuca any different.
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#211 · Posted: 17 May 2010 01:53 · Edited by: 21decadeniche
Small info for sharing.
Melaleuca is difficult to be understood. An environmental wellness that cater to the health of people and our earth, the only earth.
Of course, I wish Melaleuca to expand into every corner of the world.
Melaleuca proven of improving the people health in our country and help cleans the toxic environment.
Best of health to all.
Cheers!
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#212 · Posted: 20 May 2010 14:27
21decadeniche
Hey Melaleuca distributors. I'm doing some research. Can you help me?
1. What is the minimum monthly purchase in points to be a distributor?
2. What is the minimum monthly purchase to qualify for commissions?
3. Is there a recommended monthly purchase to maximize commissions?
4. Is an automatic monthly recurring order necessary to participate in commissions? If so, how much does the order need to be?
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#213 · Posted: 20 May 2010 21:20
I've been a preferred customer of Melaleuka since 2007. I signed up under my niece to help her out and I liked their cleaning products. After a few months I had enough of the cleaning and body products to last me several months, to fill my 35 pt. quota I kept adding things. First I added the allergy medication, decided it worked great and was a lot cheaper, then I added the Attain and Access bars and was blown away at how well they worked. My workouts are so much better with the Access bars and the crave blockers really do stop my cravings. by this time my quota was more than filled each month, but then I tried the vitamins and can't even list how many ways I feel better after being on them for a couple months. I decided that my Arbonne skin care, which is great, was way more than I wanted to pay so I switched to the Nicole Miller with great nervousness because my skin is so sensitive. I am so relieved that my skin still is in great condition after a few months use. No redness, no blemishes and still soft and smooth. I'm not in this for the business I am in it because I love the products.
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#214 · Posted: 26 May 2010 22:11 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
21decadeniche: Melaleuca is difficult to be understood.
Hardly.
It's an MLM plain and simple.
Here is an MLM definition from the WIKIIONARY:
multi-level marketing:
A sales system under which the salesperson receives a commission on his or her own sales and a smaller commission on the sales from each person he or she convinces to become a salesperson.
This precisely describes the Melaleuca business platform.
You can play semantics, and quote Melaleuca propaganda/corporate line/diagrams/euphemism/ all you like.
Melaleuca is an MLM!
If you think or say otherwise, you are either naive, or scamming.
The quality of their products have nothing whatsoever to do with Melaleuca's status as an MLM.
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#215 · Posted: 26 May 2010 23:43
TJamMoneyMan: It is 'called' 'Consumer Direct Marketing' (by Melaleuca promoters) ONLY because that is a REGISTERED TRADEMARK of Melaleuca.
Melaleuca is smart. Thumbs up!
CDM-You only refer a customer to shop direct with Melaleuca and you receive a small referring fees.
There is no item for you to carry, deliver,receiving cash,no inventory,no replacement order.
Hence, "No selling".
Beautiful concept.
Cheers!
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#216 · Posted: 27 May 2010 18:34 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
21decadeniche: Melaleuca is smart.
Melaleuca is deceptive!
21decadeniche: "No selling".
Yeah right!
Then sign me up, since obviously, that means there's nothing to "buy"!
"No Selling" - just one more example of Melaleuca being deceptive.
CDM - yet another example!
Melaluca is an MLM!
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#217 · Posted: 27 May 2010 20:47
TJamMoneyMan: Then sign me up, since obviously, that means there's nothing to "buy"!
I am very sorry. I won't sign you up. This is because you are not really understand Melaleuca and you won't putting your true heart into Melaleuca fantastic system.
Although the fact is I can make money every month without referring anyone and get free products from Melaleuca by just making a toll-free call.
Your enrollment would affect my organization. I am selective and work hard to co-operate with my partners.
I am sorry once again.
Your deep understanding is much much appreciated.
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#218 · Posted: 28 May 2010 17:50
21decadeniche
LOL!
You might wanna take a little closer look at my post 21d!!
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#219 · Posted: 31 May 2010 18:50
Melaleuca, whether or not they want to admit it, IS an MLM. You recruit other workers and sell the products. "No selling" is a line of BS because in order for anyone to make any money, something must be sold. I've heard great things about the products, but haven't tried them because I've heard mixed reviews on whether they're all natural like they claim to be. I'd never end up selling the business opp or the products because the commissions are too low for me and the market is so saturated, which is why they have to expand to other parts of the world.
No matter what business you get into, if it's offering products in demand at the right price, eventually it'll get to a point where it's hard for anyone new to make money. For example, I was recently looking to see how many Avon reps are in my area, and there are 4 pages worth listed in just my zip code alone. That's 15+ reps in just my local area. A bit saturated.
I was also turned off by the requirement to buy so much product every month. I don't spend all my time cleaning, therefore I don't need that much. So I'm glad I made the choice I did becasue the monthly fee not only goes toward something I use every month, but it's something I can never have enough of.
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#220 · Posted: 1 Jun 2010 22:19 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
jlbear21
Yes, of course I agree with your points.
I ain't hatin' on Melaleuca, just stating the obvious - when Mel reps regurgitate the same propaganda over and over again in their posts.
And products are just that.
No more.
ANYONE can make the exact same product.
A non-MLM business, can make THE EXACT SAME PRODUCT as ANY MLM, but at a cheaper price, since they don't have to ADD commission costs to their product's sale price.
Any MLM product that is REALLY in demand - REALLY selling, will soon be picked up and produced CHEAPER by a motivated entrepeneur.
The MLM will tell you that THEIR product is superior of course, but that's just another MLM myth.
If the product is any good, someone WILL make it, and sell it, cheaper.
Check Walmart, and other discount stores.
You will see SOOO many previously 'MLM only' products, for sale at MUCH cheaper prices than the typical MLM rip-off price.
jlbear21: For example, I was recently looking to see how many Avon reps are in my area, and there are 4 pages worth listed in just my zip code alone. That's 15+ reps in just my local area. A bit saturated.
And yes, looong before a MLM pyramid runs out of customers (which MLM defenders love to say 'never happens'), there become waay too many reps/distributors for the market.
And of course that means there is absolutely NO ROOM for any NEW reps/distributors people to make any money at all.
The folx at the TOP of the MLM pyramid will continue to profit however, just by scamming those in the lower levels into thinking they actually have a chance build a substantial MLM income.
That is the scam of Melaleuca, and just about every MLM as well.
"Legitimate" or not, "great products" or not.
MLM means PYRAMID.
PYRAMID means 'great profits' for those at the top, "great products" for those at the bottom.
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