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tbr
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#21 · Posted: 29 Sep 2007 03:28
My money was returned. It did take 3 days to get all my $$ returned, but it was returned. My advice when you call, call and choose any option that will get you to a live person and let them forward you to the refund department and don't hang up until you have the person's name you are speaking to and have them tell you that your refund has been sent!
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CapeCasual
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#22 · Posted: 4 Oct 2007 11:42
Regarding Wealth International:
Wealth International operates by extracting information form other work at home and financial success programs. This information is re-inputted and packaged for resell.
The main source of income is the $129.99 fee charged if you fail to return the package within 21 days. Wealth International realizes that by offering the package for the shipping & handling fee of $1.95, their response is great. Most people do not see the 21 day return policy fee and realize they are being charged $129.99.
Wealth International makes it extremely difficult to work your way through thier phone systems to reach someone in regards to the $129.99 charge. And getting credit takes persistent calling.
( 1-800-724-2794 ext: 2142)
In order for a company to charge you, they must prove you recieved the information. Each package has a tracking number through the USPS and can be detremined whether deliverywas made.
Its a scam that preys on people who are looking for a better way to make a living. There are hundreds of stories of people having thier checking accounts overdrawn by this type of scam. Whether its Wealth International or any other company willing to ship you information for the cost of postage, BE AWARE!
If their product is so good and they are so sure of your success, why dont they spell out the $129.99 charge in as bold of print as they claim your future financial success will be???
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eperi
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#23 · Posted: 5 Oct 2007 14:38
Regarding Wealth International:
 I also made the mistake to agree to the $1.95 thinking it would lead me to a home based job from Wealth International
Well, I really didn't expect to be charged for anything else. A charge of $29.95 showed up on my next statement. I called them several times, finally giving up on the call after waiting for someone to answer. I had my credit card number changed. I see where tbr did manage to get the $$ back....I haven't been able to get a real person on line.
I didn't have this EXT # before...I will give this a try next, also the name of the person that owns the company in Sandy, UT
Thanks
( 1-800-724-2794 ext: 2142)
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eperi
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#24 · Posted: 16 Oct 2007 16:16
Nozip
I haven't recieved my refund, just had my credit card company call me this morning. They got the company on line for me and I had a chance to tell them I wanted my money refunded. They said I would have to pay $14.95 for handling. I recieved the first CD, which I paid with my credit card, I sent it back to them unopened.
We were in the middle of a job and I couldn't deal with it at the time. I had to get my credit card number changed to avoid more charges. I am waiting for the refund now.
By the way, how did you find this site? I was trying to find Wealthin as on the bill, and continued to dig until I came up with this...Seems like a great site!
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Gaggle
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#25 · Posted: 25 Oct 2007 23:21
I work at this stupid company, If I didn't need the money I would have quit a long long time ago. The mentors are full of crap I can't believe they can convince anyone of anything. Half of them are in their mid 20's and care more about their smoke breaks and conning whoever is on the other end of the phone than helping anyone and the other half are old gross men who failed at everything else in their life.
I would urge people to not sign up for this garbage. I do feel bad I have to work there but i'm stuck. This company is only out there to con desperate people out of what little money they have left.
Not to mention the fact that most of the advice they give is horrible horrible financial advice, anyone that has read a good finance book would know this.
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Tybran
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#26 · Posted: 23 Nov 2007 22:57
Here's the low down from somebody that fell for it nearly a year ago.
At the time you received the cd rom pack showing how to either go into real estate or Internet Marketing. The information is very general, no big surprises. The real so called deal is when you get the phone call from a telemarketer to up-sell you in the mentor program. They ask a bunch of pre qualifier questions (every little yes leads to the big one)
At the time I was interested in I.M. not real estate. The sales person did an excellent job at telling me I.M. was no good and the real money was in real estate. Being totally new, I believed him. I paid nearly $13,000 for the program.
Truth be told, buy low, sell high. Go to realtor.com, it's free.
Eventually after a couple weeks I let my "mentor" (actually a very nice guy) know I was not interested in real estate and had been "flipped" into the program.
So they put me into the internet program. This was the biggest heap of doo on the net!
They outsource to a company called Bright Builders. I got on the phone for my first session with my "expert" (guy in a boiler room making an hourly wage)
I asked a reasonable question, "What are your qualifications to teach me about marketing on the net? How much money do you make? What are the URLs to your sites?"
His answer, "We are not allowed to give out that information, but I'm certified in....."
I don't know about you, but if you want to shell out big bucks to a mentor, I think it's very reasonable to know their qualifications.
The bottom line is they are not qualified, otherwise they would happily show personal proof.
If you are new, be careful. Don't be a sucker like I was.
I'll give you the secrets right now for internet marketing.
You are either going to do one of three things to make money.
1) sell products as an affiliate.
2) develop and sell your own stuff
3) broker traffic (Adsense and such)
Most likely you will sell info products. Don't be scared. It's really not that hard, even to make your own stuff.
Just seek the advice of people that have done it. There's nothing wrong with paying good money for your education when it comes from the source.
Remember this, you will need to take action. Most likely you might screw up a few times. No biggie, you learned something. Just don't give up. It took me many months before I found good teachers and actually got it. There is no magic bullet. Just persistence and hard work (at least in the beginning, it does get easier)
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mikepressnell
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#27 · Posted: 24 Nov 2007 22:04
Another option:
4) Hook up with an legitimate, honest , ethical company that sets up your own website for you in which customers purchase from stores listed on the website and pays you commissions for those sells.
Do your research BEFORE you become associated with a company.
Mike Pressnell
Huntsville, Alabama, USA
[email protected]
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cassie
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#28 · Posted: 7 Dec 2007 15:27
12/07
This is our experience with this company, this week.
My husband is a 100% disabled, oxygen dependant quadriplegic. He is heavily medicated and unable to work. He receives SS, disability and Veterans health benefits. He is mostly bed bound and only able to sit in a wheelchair a few hours a day. He speaks slowly and deliberately with lots of spaces between the words. In other words even on the phone he sounds disabled. He is a bright, educated individual with a good trusting heart and a strong work ethic. He wants to do something productive with his time.
We have two minor children.
He responded to an unsolicited e-mail that he thought was affiliated with the GOOGLE Corporation. He was then contacted by REII, Global Wealth, RPRS, Real People Real Success, Wealth International (they have many names). They set him up over a week time, calling him and asking questions, sending him to the next level. They directed him to their spiffy looking website. They made it sound like they were selecting him not the other way around. Like an interview to see if you qualify. They were told about his condition (he explained why he needed to make money). Finally when they felt they had primed the pigeon enough they swooped in for the kill. He was turned over to an extremely high-pressure sales person who called him repeatedly over an entire day. During the day he was questioned about his finances, credit cards (mostly what is the limit and how much is already on them) and willingness to work 5-10 hours a week for Big Big money (up to 100 thousand). They record your calls so you can't say, "I didn't say that" later. The salesman said if he didn't respond today that it would show lack of commitment to success. They really played on his vulnerability. Hyped up, and worn down he made the mistake of giving them his credit card number. They immediately put a charge of nearly $9000.00 on the card. A few moments later he told me what had happened ( I had not spoken to any of these RPRS people and I didn't know this was going to happen). I called them back and they refused to give him back the money (it had only been about10 minutes). When they realized I was going to stand in the way of him signing the contract they started giving me the sales schpeel. I had no idea who these people were or what they were going to do with our credit card number. Horrified that my husband had given our credit card number to a stranger over the phone, I called the police. The local policeman spoke with them for a while. He said we should contact our credit card company and also look on the Internet to see if anyone else had been scammed by them (they had). He also said he thought it was a company that scams the public within the limits of the law. They sent paperwork for my husband to sign, first by e-mail (just as soon as they got the credit card number with instructions to FAX it back immediately) followed by a next day delivery by FedEx of this same contract. They don't want you to have any cooling off period or time to think. They really pressure you to sign the agreement, because once you do, there is no way out. I imagine that if you don't send it back right away they will continue to call and call with high pressure, until they coerce you to do so. This didn't happen in our case because I was pretty clear that we were not interested. The 'contract' was very vague and bogus looking. It mainly said you will make money in a year as long as you do your part. If you don't make money in a year they will continue to work with you (at what cost I don't know). This is their guarantee. The minute you sign it and send it back to them you can't get your money back. It talked a lot about 'success' but was extremely lacking in detail on how this 'success' would be achieved. It was all fairy dust. The main thing they wanted signed was access to the credit card charge. It was the only paper with any details, mainly how much they had grabbed from our card.
We had to cancel our credit card immediately and instruct our bank to file a dispute to the payment if and when it posted. RPRS did give us our money back today (2 days later). The charge is no longer on the card.
In fairness to RPRS, I don't know what the product was like. It may be the greatest program in the world for all I know. You never really see what you are "buying" before hand. You don't know whom you will be working with or what you will actually receive for your money. They don't send out brochures or info packets for you to peruse. They don't give the credentials of their mentors. All of their business is done with nice websites, e-mail and cell phones. They could be operating out of a basement for all I know.
I think this company uses predatory sales techniques.
Sorry for writing a 'book' just hope to warn others.
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