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#21 · Posted: 13 Oct 2010 23:24
Thank you for your response. Sorry for late answer. I am in process of considering this biz, so I need some time to deside. Thank you FreeCashMan. Marinad.
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#22 · Posted: 15 Oct 2010 01:00 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
ChrisPotter: TJamMoneyMan: Ok, so what are the 3 income streams? The way it works is... We will keep it simple and say the average person gets 3 prospects (its very possible to get many many more).
Thank you for being the only one to address this important question.
Unfortunately, as I read your reply, you simply have not answered the question:
"WHAT are the 3 income streams?"
As you look through this thread, you will see LOTS words about Trifecta, but nothing that says what Trifecta is.
Again, specifically what the three (trifecta) streams of income are.
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#23 · Posted: 15 Oct 2010 12:01
Hey Marina, thanks for taking a look. No harm in that, and we appreciate you following the simple process to make sure you get complete up to date info on the Trifecta Cashflow System, it's income streams, and more importantly the Opportunity's Purpose to help the average and ordinary person stop failing in networking and achieve success with a more probable profitable business system and not just mere possibility like what has been traditionally offered in this industry by other companies and their compensation plan.
We may not be the best, but we are darn good for home business success 
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#24 · Posted: 16 Oct 2010 20:49 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
ChrisPotter: so doing VERY minimum work gets you $600 in monthly income. That only applies if you are starting in the $30 'little league' system.
What is the NAME of this "little league program"?
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#25 · Posted: 24 Oct 2010 14:01
There are just so many options out there - seemlessly endless. But which ones actually do work? I have tried several within the last 12 months and had success with some of them. One thing that has helped me is take an online marketing class that teaches you about SEO, PPC and how to position your website so it shows up on the first Google homepage. There are LOTS of people typing in the keyword "working from home" or similar. And yes, there is money to be made via the Internet.
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#26 · Posted: 1 Nov 2010 13:40
I just heard the following:
"Yesterday a company called Aachoo shut it's doors and is not paying out their commissions. There are a lot of people effected by this. I was chatting with one woman who was earning $2k a month and using that to pay for her chemo."
Didn't Aachoo, just start? I know they were around $30 to start. Well we've got an entry at that level that leads to big monthly income in a short period of time.
Anyhow, this is exactly why the Trifecta Cashflow System is about immediate multiple income streams so that one has reliability and stability in their home business income.
If you haven't checked out Trifecta Cashflow System be sure to do so. A new mini-overview presentation was just released today on their non-member specific youtube channel, take a look and see how diversifying your home income with this system-styled opportunity can be very rewarding along with anything else you are doing:
http://www.youtube.com/trifectacashflow
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#27 · Posted: 1 Nov 2010 20:46
TJamMoneyMan: ChrisPotter: so doing VERY minimum work gets you $600 in monthly income. That only applies if you are starting in the $30 'little league' system. What is the NAME of this "little league program"?
How come no one say what programs Trifecta is promoting????
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#28 · Posted: 2 Nov 2010 05:34
FreeCashMan: "Yesterday a company called Aachoo shut it's doors and is not paying out their commissions. There are a lot of people effected by this. I was chatting with one woman who was earning $2k a month and using that to pay for her chemo." Didn't Aachoo, just start? I know they were around $30 to start. Well we've got an entry at that level that leads to big monthly income in a short period of time. Anyhow, this is exactly why the Trifecta Cashflow System is about immediate multiple income streams so that one has reliability and stability in their home business income.
And this is why people should know specifically WHAT these "multiple income streams" are at TRIFECTA.
If these 'multiple income streams' at Trifecta Cashflow are so great, how come you won't say what they are?
Here in an open forum for all to see?
And judge?
If they were good and stable sources, I'd think you would be proud to say so!
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#29 · Posted: 14 Nov 2010 01:56
Ok I have read through the Trifecta website and read through this thread and all I know so far is that you have to refer people which to me seems like MLM.
I am open minded so exactly how does this system work, in a nutshell in terms that everyone can understand.
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#30 · Posted: 14 Nov 2010 06:33
al99: Ok I have read through the Trifecta website and read through this thread and all I know so far is that you have to refer people which to me seems like MLM.
After doing that much research, you should really more than that.
You should know eggZACKLY what Trifecta consists of, yes eggzackly WHAT programs you'll be paying for, and how many people you'll have to recruit.
As well as whether or not you are getting yourself into another MLM or what.
al99: I am open minded so exactly how does this system work, in a nutshell in terms that everyone can understand.
"Exactly how this does this system work" is a question that won't be answered here in this thread.
Not after listening to neary ONE HOUR worth of video promos.
Not even after visiting the website!
I am betting you'll be directed to attend a one hour webinar!
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#31 · Posted: 14 Nov 2010 07:30
Folks save yourself thousands of dollars if you will just pay attention to what tjammoneyman is trying to convey. Don't just jump into these things blindly. If I could have all the money back that I wasted doing this I could retire today!
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#32 · Posted: 14 Nov 2010 10:08
marcromero: If I could have all the money back that I wasted doing this I could retire today
I'm curious if, and/or how you could be referring to Trifecta Cashflow System?
I don't believe so, you may have meant network marketing companies in general, because there wouldn't be any to support such assertion with our opportunity.
People are failing in network marketing because they have to establish teams of thousands of people to make a 4-5 figure monthly residual income in compensation plans that are not really favored for the reps to succeed without having to do extraordinary effort. We put that to rest and have simple plan that has a HIGH PROBABILITY for the average and ordinary person to earn 4-5 figures monthly, along with establishing long-lasting monthly residual cashflow.
Our new 15 minute mini overview video explains things better than anyone person could in a setting such as this and our full presentation is available 24/7 for those requesting more info. This makes sure that people do not get inaccurate info and have the most up to date info about the business from the company itself.
If someone tries to judge this opportunity by shallow information that is posted in a forum then that would not be intelligent. Especially when you have a setting where people can and do say things by hiding behind the internet with little to no recourse.
If a person can't take the time to view our videos and understand the business, and see that it's not about trying to go into explaining things to people personally these days because of the power of technology and tools to do the explain, then that would not be someone that we would be interested in working with anyhow.
Networking has been made simple these days because of technology, as it relates to sharing information about a business opportunity, by becoming a professional inviter to ask people to view a brief video.
Any good opportunity these days is a simple process of directing people to get full facts and details by watching a video and/or view other actual company documents and material.
There is nothing to debate about this matter and don't look for me to do so, especially with people that I know have a history of engaging in fruitless and ill actions of no value in an attempt to degrade mlm, not to mention unwarranted personal attacks of me. Some people don't like mlm and that is okay, but it hasn't stopped the continue success and growth of this industry in the 50 plus years of its existence. People just need to understand essentials for a better or high probability for success.
Our members should understand that our opportunity is about the system-styled approach to establishing multiple streams of monthly residual income, and more. It's not about any one company or component of it, so there is no need to discuss any individual business part, as the system is the empower aspect above and beyond one part.
My, and our members, time is best served continuing to establish a successful and growing business and help those that are serious do the same. We have people that join us because they see that our Trifecta Cashflow System is truly about YOUR Success.
People want to know how they can make more money and how they can make more money in a short period of time that will continue to flow. That's what we are about and that is what we are making happen for those that join us.
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#33 · Posted: 14 Nov 2010 11:28
macro, It sounds like you are bitter about something that hasn't worked out for you.  I am sure we have all been there at one time or another. Maybe you could share some of your experiences it would help all of us. I have to be honest some of the failure I have had were not putting in the effort and sticking with it. Did I lose money sure I did but it was my own fault. I am a little older and hopefully wiser now This is what forums are for to share our knowledge and or experiences we have had. It makes them very valuable to all of us.
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#34 · Posted: 14 Nov 2010 13:06
FreeCashMan
I'm a newbie and had some questions regarding the program. I listen to the videos and read all the information....However, I'm not sure this program is for a newbie like myself. Please let me know if you can assist. I'm interested in the program, but a little skeptical....
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#35 · Posted: 14 Nov 2010 14:33 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
FreeCashMan: If a person can't take the time to view our videos and understand the business
As mentioned, I have watched the 12 minute video, as well as the 40 minute video.
They mention ONE stream of income only.
Those videos do little to explain Trifecta, just as the 2039 words FreeCashMan posted here explain nothing of substance about Trifecta.
FreeCashMan has posted over TWO THOUSAND WORDS here in this thread, and refuses to answer the very simple question: What are Trifecta's three streams of income?
FreeCashMan: it's not about trying to go into explaining things to people personally these days
Oh really?
When did that change take place?
Since when did people no longer want things explained to them before they invest their valuable time AND money?
And how much "explaining" do you have to "go into" to simply say: The three streams of income are A, B and C.??
See?
That only took TEN WORDS!!!
FreeCashMan: People want to know how they can make more money and how they can make more money in a short period of time that will continue to flow.
I think people are concerned with things like ETHICS, LEGALITY and PROBABILITY (of success).
They also want to know what they are spending their money on.
But in any event, I am a "people" and I'd like to know, what are the three streams of income?
And I'll bet anyone else, who is not shilling for TRIFECTA or just TOTALLY naive, would like to know that as well.
If you have nothing to hide, you'll answer the question:
What are the three streams of income that Trifecta members will be paying into?
If those streams are ethical, legal and have good chances for success, why not say so?
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#36 · Posted: 14 Nov 2010 16:35
jgthomas
Thanks for taking the time to review the information at our company site.
I am a newbie as well and I know how you feel. Not new to MLM per say but the cyber part of it. So I know what I want and don't want. But I love this system and what it can do for the ordinary/average person. I have received countless hours of instruction personally from my upline and all questions have been answered besides the training site that we have.
I have sent you a pm so that you can get any help you might want or need.
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#37 · Posted: 15 Nov 2010 00:42
weebitty: all questions have been answered
Well then, what are the three streams of income?
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#38 · Posted: 15 Nov 2010 22:49
As someone who hasn't posted here in ages, but will visit on occasion...
Just thought I'd chime in and mention that I generally lose interest fast in any opportunity that has a page that is... flashy; throws words like "BIG Money" at me; or has pictures of cash all over it... without even getting to the meat of what is being offered. It just doesn't have a professional appeal to it.
In fact, I usually won't even waste my time with most ads (capture pages) that require my info before they give me their info about the biz... because it often means my email is simply being harvested. (Even though I'm sure that's not the case here, I'm just saying how it can drive people away). I only took a second look once I realized that this was associated with a member here.
It's not so much that a person is lazy (or not good for a business) if they don't want to look through a maze of videos, etc. when first looking into something. It's just that there are a TON of opportunities out there, and these days people really don't want to spend an hour trying to "figure out" what something is even about when first looking into it.
Getting the facts up front makes a business more trustworthy, and makes me more likely to give my info when I feel like nothing is being hidden. Also, when I get the facts up front, THEN I'm willing to put in a lot more time to research it and look over the finer details they have.
After going through this thread, I'm going to assume there is some heat between some posters here. However, it would be to the benefit of the biz if "someone" would answer TJamMoneyMan's question. (There may be many people browsing through with the same question).
If someone (anyone) associated with the biz doesn't want to take some time to answer questions in a thread... developed for exactly that purpose... well, it just kinda looks bad.
Just my 2 cents as an outsider, for what it's worth.
Best wishes with your biz FreeCashMan!
(At the bottom of the page, where the "Earnings Disclaimer" is, there is a part that reads "Your Income Will Depend On Your Efforts, However Are System Is..."
Should the word Are be Our ...or am I just reading that wrong?)
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#39 · Posted: 16 Nov 2010 01:52 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
Elysium: After going through this thread, I'm going to assume there is some heat between some posters here. However, it would be to the benefit of the biz if "someone" would answer TJamMoneyMan's question. (There may be many people browsing through with the same question).
I am asking a very simple question.
The answer to which would truly help shed some light on things and enable people to accurately judge - BEFORE watching over an hour's worth of video presentations that STILL don't answer this very simple question!
There is nothing at all new about TRIFECTA's basic idea - building income with one basic, inexpensive plan, using those earnings to fund a higher paying, more expensive one - a feeder program.
I just think people want to know what they are being 'fed'!
And who hasn't heard of recruiting 'only' three people who 'only' need to recruit three people, etc?
What's so new about that?
And yes, I've been through this sort of thing b4 with a certain someone posting here!
I am beginning to think this is a basic M.O. in the forum marketing approach of him and others:
Give NO substantial information about your 'offer' until after the members have signed up and, along with having completely fallen for the game, now have a vested interest in the plan - which would effectively mute any opposition.
Just get as many folx as possible to SIGN UP, ASAP!
A "Lead Capture Thread", so to speak!
This is the same thing that happened with LAWN CHAIR MILLIONAIRE, where they would answer NO questions in this forum.
Out in the open, where all could see.
They sure wanted you to sign up quick and drop your bux though!
There's simply no reason someone won't answer simple and appropriate questions, unless they are hiding something!
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#40 · Posted: 16 Nov 2010 10:15
BIG GRIN!
First thanks, sincerely, Elysium, for sharing the typo info. These things happen.
Now, of the 10-15 people that I've personally referred to this business, over the past 2 months, from this forum of those looking for a great work at home business, notwithstanding the countless ones that decided to get direct FREE information about the business, aka leads, the only one(s) complaining about Trifecta Cashflow System for Success (TCSS) are those that have absolutely no interest, or a certain someone that has a purpose to try and cast remarks to undermine the opportunity or Freecashman/Jah Kafele, which I don't waste my time engage in conversation with.
No one who has taken an interest and/or good look at, or joined, TCSS is without all the information about the system without having to spend any start up cost or think the are being "fed" something hidden in some "kool-aid". So assertions of hiding something that people can get access to for free is without merit.
So let's recap. There's a 15 minute mini-over of the business available via the links on this tread or a search of TCSS, no opt-in info required.
If a person doesn't see an opportunity for themselves from the 15minute mini-overview, no other information is of importance to them. For those that do see an opportunity that may interest them they don't seem to have any problem moving forward to make sure they are getting up to date accurate information by seeking more details from a member and our details web page which has now has the 24/7 full presentation and testimonials and other pertinent information for making a wise decision to join TCSS.
While I'm sure at some point someone may post the current businesses that make up the foundation of Trifecta Cashflow System, however TCSS is more than what appears on the cover and is just getting going on what it will become.
For those that aren't in the know, or just learning about TCSS, versus those that are participants, we don't promote any one company, we promote a system-styled opportunity for the average and ordinary person to achieve long-lasting success in the networking industry with a HIGH PROBABILITY for success structure that is about a new approach to this industry.
Just like a mutual fund doesn't promote all the companies that make up the mutual fund, it promotes the theme and concept of the mutual fund or the mutual fund itself, to expect members of TCSS to do otherwise is simply a display of a lack of understanding of the ideology behind TCSS or ignorance about marketing of a business. However, a person that has a sincere interest, or even one who doesn't, can and does get all information and questions answered prior to joining.
Only people that don't have an interest are complaining about viewing videos at their convenience, where they're isn't any "pressure". But there is no maize of videos for one to get a good general overview. Naturally with details there would be additional videos and documents, etc for a person to make a fully informed decision.
Contrary to some peoples thinking, if forums like these were the place for people to make a fully informed decision on a business they may want to get involved in, then no opportunity in existence would have a need to have their own website and source for people to get proper accurate information. Such is not the purpose of this forum for sure, if any general work at home forum.
In conclusion we feel that we provide more than adequate and pertinent information about TCSS with our mini overview video that would allow a person that has an true interest to continue on with us if so desired. Are capture pages and opt-in autoresponder messages series are standard business operation and are actually beneficial to the person that is looking for a home business.
Now as to someone harvesting emails. This is just fear within or trying to cast the same amongst others. And clearly someone(s) here without an interest in the business purposes to post for such comments for that reason.
First thing, Spam laws require that any opt-in email service provide a way for the person to remove themselves from a mailing list. We do that.
Two, opting-in to get complete and proper details or to stay up to date on activities of a business is not uncommon, and an established norm of doing business online. So let's not attempt to make it more than it is. With all the free email services available, if a person has an email concern then get a new email besides your main one.
I've personally have had several people tell me they were glad to get follow up messages to remind them to take a good look at a business I was promoting. And I've had people opt-out also, lol.
I've been online marketing for over 4 years, and the mass of it has been with network marketing opportunities. I'd say that I've earned over $100k in those 4 years, but more importantly helped many others earn their respective thousands, doing things the way I do them, learned to do them, and constantly improving.
So unless someone is going to comment on how we can improve something based on them having been successful and helping others do the same, then please comment with caution about what we are about or should be doing with TCSS.
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