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tmorrison
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#1 · Posted: 13 Jul 2009 05:49 · Edited by: tmorrison
Has anyone heard of a new search engine called Tazoodle?
I have become aware of this new search engine which is launching soon. Tazoodle which is quite a crazy name, is likely going after the same success of other search engines which have become synonymous with search like Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc. The difference with this search engine, is that it will pay both the people searching, as well as the people who advertise with them.
I would like to hear your thoughts.
http://www.tazoodle.com/
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#2 · Posted: 14 Jul 2009 03:23
I give it a year. There have been other companies that have tried this and all have basically fallen flat on their faces.
Google & Bing spend billions every year developing their search and advertiser programs. With out an obscene amount of cash they just can't create enough relevant traffic to keep advertisers pouring the cash in.
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#3 · Posted: 14 Jul 2009 03:33 · Edited by: tmorrison
I have been around the internet for quit some time and I am sure you have as well, but to my knowledge I have never heard of another Search Engine Company in particular that has tried to develop this concept.
Would you mind kindly naming the other "Search Engine Company"that has tried to develop this business concept?
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#4 · Posted: 14 Jul 2009 15:38
I am looking for the paperwork on the other companies. The people I used to work for were heavily solicited to participate in the startup phase of new networking companies.
Companies that work under the "we share the ad revenue with our user model"
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I don't know anyone who has made any real money with either of these. The advertisers don't benefit because the traffic doesn't convert. It sounds good, you click an ad and we give you a part of the revenue. Problem, it is really just organized click fraud.
Your competition. There are a couple of other companies launching in the sector: iJango & Tampogo.
A couple of specific issues with Tazoodle
1. After a little bit of searching the tazoodle plan is remarkably similar to Ad Surf Daily. ASD was shut down about a year ago by the government as a ponzi scheme.
2. If you look up the company's corporate registration with the Nevada Sec. Of State the address listed is a virtual office suite.
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#5 · Posted: 14 Jul 2009 18:32 · Edited by: tmorrison
BobFirestone: 1. After a little bit of searching the tazoodle plan is remarkably similar to Ad Surf Daily. ASD was shut down about a year ago by the government as a ponzi scheme.
Let me try and explain this in a totally different way.
First of all, you can't compare the business model of Tazoodle with anything you've been exposed to in the past.
This is a Search Engine and not a ponzi auto-surf company. Obviously I think you need more information on the company.
The rules of the Tazoodle revenue sharing model were designed to eliminate any element of a "Ponzi". The owners and advisory board members spent many hours with their compliance attorney on this issue and all elements have been addressed to making Tazoodle legal in the U.S.
Account owners do not receive income for being an advertiser. Account owners have the option to receive income if they qualify to share in the days revenue pool. That's a switch in the explanation but it's true.
Legal Considerations are shared in members accounts that addresse your concerns in further detail.
Don't get me wrong...I had the same thoughts you had, but I think getting more information will give you a broader perspective and confidence in the Tazoodle search engine model.
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#6 · Posted: 14 Jul 2009 19:42
The closer I look at it the less I like it.
Apparently it is hosted with godaddy. That is not all by it's self a bad thing but it is on a shared server.
Until it is actually up and running neither of us know how functional the search will actually be. For a search engine to be relevant it needs to provide users with relevant results for the search. A problem I see is that either it is going to provide un-targeted ads (wasting the advertisers money) or all search terms are all priced the same (highly doubt).
It is your reputation on the line so I hope you are really sure about how the search, the ads and the revenue share are going to work.
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#7 · Posted: 14 Jul 2009 19:53 · Edited by: tmorrison
BobFirestone: Until it is actually up and running neither of us know how functional the search will actually be. For a search engine to be relevant it needs to provide users with relevant results for the search. A problem I see is that either it is going to provide un-targeted ads (wasting the advertisers money) or all search terms are all priced the same (highly doubt).
I wish you would actually register for more information and view for yourself how Tazoodle is to function. You and I can agree that we shouldn't judge a book by its cover because we know the details/facts are in the inside.
It can be a more of a businesslike discussion when two or more parties have actual and factual information.
All the best.-- By the way, my name is Tommy
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#8 · Posted: 14 Jul 2009 21:24
This is a very interesting concept. Seems like it will be difficult to track fraud though. If the search engine is paying surfers, what stops them from paying people that aren't really interested in a particular subject, but rather migrate to that subject merely because it pays more? Which leads me to agree with "Bob Firestone" that the search terms would have to pay equally.
I believe it would be a good thing, just hard to get the ball rolling. Phone companies have tried this. They credit you if you listen to an ad before making your call.
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#9 · Posted: 15 Jul 2009 08:38
Ballistic: that the search terms would have to pay equally.
There are absolutely no bidding wars like other search engines.
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#10 · Posted: 15 Jul 2009 12:24
Having all search terms pay equally is a bad thing.
At $1 fixed you are overpaying for most search terms.
If everyone in the system is clicking on ads to get paid that means everyone will be clicking on every ad. AKA system wide click fraud.
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#11 · Posted: 17 Jul 2009 02:41 · Edited by: tmorrison
BobFirestone: At $1 fixed you are overpaying for most search terms.
I believe the average advertising cost spent on Google is $10,000 to $20,000 per account...
Average bid for search term "business opportunity" is $5 to $8 dollars per click.
Tazoodle difference: It will not charge more than $1 per search term and guarantees a person will look at your site for 15 seconds.
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#12 · Posted: 18 Jul 2009 12:08
Giblinker: Tazoodle difference: It will not charge more than $1 per search term and guarantees a person will look at your site for 15 seconds.
15 second guarantees sounds like a traffic exchange setup to me. Really you need to research Ad Surf Daily and compare the two with an open mind. The similarities are startling.
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#13 · Posted: 18 Jul 2009 21:50 · Edited by: tmorrison
BobFirestone: 15 second guarantees sounds like a traffic exchange setup to me.
Stop trying to taint a program you have no facts on. Its a "Search Engine"and not a Auto-surf/traffic exchange program. Why don't you get factual information before you start your comparisons here?
I welcome you to Register for free. There is no obligation. You can always opt-out. I just want you to view the video presentation to ease your thoughts on the search engine program.
Hopefully then, we can have an fair discussion here.
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#14 · Posted: 19 Jul 2009 00:21 · Edited by: Vishal P. Rao
Giblinker: Its a "Search Engine"and not a Auto-surf/traffic exchange program. Why don't you get factual information before you start your comparisons here?
Just because it has labelled itself as a search engine doesn't mean it has to be a search engine. Can any search engine guarantee a 15 second viewer period?
Here's the definition of a search engine:
A website whose primary function is providing a search engine for gathering and reporting information available on the Internet or a portion of the Internet.
Giblinker: Why don't you get factual information before you start your comparisons here?
What factual information? Everything is transparent on the homepage.
� Tazoodle enables search engine users the ability to earn income from viewing advertiser's websites without cost obligations.
So, on the whole it means transferring money from one medium to another without any actual product or service involved. Which is looks just like a pay per click model or paid to surf program to me.
Sorry, this doesn't fit here.
If I'm wrong and if Tazoodle gives Google and Yahoo! tough competition, I'll open this thread.
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