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success9
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#161 · Posted: 26 Nov 2008 12:56
I use to look at the negative with RIOY, ask laura, LOL but I don't any more. The positive out weigh the negative. I try to stay away from negativity I signed up under laura at the VIP Marketer level. Where else can you find a company send you $300 monthly checks for 3 years for only a $1,500 investment. The retention rate should also be a lot higher, way less drop outs, since you will have your $300 checks coming in, month after month for 3 years. Not only that, look at Mexegen compensation plan, only 30 people $1,900 a month. 120 people six figure income. WOW!. Happy Thanksgiving everyone.
Dave
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#162 · Posted: 26 Nov 2008 14:14
Now I'm in a dilemma. I've already paid $1499 for the Premier Trivita start up pack which gives you 25 MAPS. I don't know whether to join LHN and work my way up to Maxegen. I can't afford to be both in Trivita and RIOY initially. I'm not really sure what to do. I know that I stand a better chance of making more money quicker with RIOY. My team in Trivita are also using SEO techniques and RSS feeds but the leads we're getting aren't converting and aren't enough. Like I said, I would like to join your team and if I do it will most likely be in January. Thanks for answering my questions. If I have any more I'll post again.
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#163 · Posted: 26 Nov 2008 14:27
Shelstar said: Now I'm in a dilemma. I've already paid $1499 for the Premier Trivita start up pack which gives you 25 MAPS.
Can you get a refund? Or is it to late?
Dave
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#164 · Posted: 26 Nov 2008 14:54
That was 3 months ago. I think it's too late now. Not to worry though as Karl pays for us to stay in both programs. My dilemma is whether I should keep on buying customers from Trivita or use that money elsewhere like on RIOY. Once I've signed up for LHN and Maxegen will I need to spend money on marketing? My team's aim in Trivita is for everyone to try and purchase 100 customers within 12 months or purchase what they can. I don't know how often customers reorder though. I don't know on average how long it takes to become a 1 STAR, 2 STAR and 3 STAR BA. Anyway, I will focus right now on RIOY. With a Squidoo page do I have to upload a picture or can I leave it blank?
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#165 · Posted: 26 Nov 2008 15:26
I looked at Trivita before and the one thing I didn't like about buying the customers is that you didn't get paid on the customers first order. Buying 100 customers if I'm not mistaken would coust you $50 x 100 =$5,000. How many people are re ordering out of 100 customers? Sorry If I sound down on Trivita. It just wasn't for me. Thanks
Dave
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#166 · Posted: 26 Nov 2008 15:57 · Edited by: Jerryjg62
shelstar: My dilemma is whether I should keep on buying customers from Trivita or use that money elsewhere like on RIOY. Once I've signed up for LHN and Maxegen will I need to spend money on marketing? My team's aim in Trivita is for everyone to try and purchase 100 customers within 12 months or purchase what they can. I don't know how often customers reorder though. I don't know on average how long it takes to become a 1 STAR, 2 STAR and 3 STAR BA. Anyway, I will focus right now on RIOY. With a Squidoo page do I have to upload a picture or can I leave it blank?
Hey shelstar!
Oh you should concentrate on RIOY. Buying TriVita customers doesn't give you any guarantee. The getting people to buy 100 customers cracks me up! That's $5,000.00. I would like my neighbor to go down to the drug store, buy some lottery tickets, win the lottery and split it with me but I don't think that will happen. Getting people to buy 100 customers isn't likely either. Especially in this economy.
You don't have to spend money on marketing if you don't want to. Laura has free training that will teach you things that are free like forum posting. And do we need help on the forums.
You don't have to upload a picture on a Squidoo but it is very easy to do. If I can do it anyone can and when you see how those things are set up, you'll see how easy it is. But if you have any problems you can ask any of us. We're all willing to help you.
Jerry
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#167 · Posted: 28 Nov 2008 15:13
shelstar: That was 3 months ago. I think it's too late now. Not to worry though as Karl pays for us to stay in both programs. My dilemma is whether I should keep on buying customers from Trivita or use that money elsewhere like on RIOY. Once I've signed up for LHN and Maxegen will I need to spend money on marketing? My team's aim in Trivita is for everyone to try and purchase 100 customers within 12 months or purchase what they can. I don't know how often customers reorder though. I don't know on average how long it takes to become a 1 STAR, 2 STAR and 3 STAR BA. Anyway, I will focus right now on RIOY. With a Squidoo page do I have to upload a picture or can I leave it blank?
Hi Shelstar,
First with your TriVita dilemma. There is no promise at all on whether customers reorder. I have had some reorder and some have not purchased at all. If you are on the team build on MMG, they will try to get you 3 BA's but that will take some time.
Also, there is no time frame really about growing your business to 1 star, 2star, etc. You can get lucky to have people who will buy lots of customers, but the time frame on making back the money you actually put in is probably close to 2 years or more.
I'm a 2 star BA with over 10 BA's under me but I barely make $100 a month after purchasing my autoship. I will stick with it but is going to grow slowly.
With RIOY, you will see a return on your investment more quickly. It will not take the long to be in profit in Maxegen since you only need 5 people below you to be in profit. Technically you are in profit because Karl is paying your monthly autoships.
Don't rush into it until you can afford it. Karl is giving lots of options which I think was a very smart move.
I've been getting some really good leads who are sincerely interested now more than ever and even a couple of people whose names I recognize from the forums.
Feel free to email me at any time. I believe I sent you my email address and added your name to my training.
Take care,
Laura
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#168 · Posted: 30 Nov 2008 19:21
LauraLicata: Also, there is no time frame really about growing your business to 1 star, 2star, etc. You can get lucky to have people who will buy lots of customers, but the time frame on making back the money you actually put in is probably close to 2 years or more.
I have to disagree Laura, I have been in Trivita for five months and have almost paid for my position which was 1750 when I joined. I would say that is very good in a MLM which I have been working very part-time. I would have paid for it even sooner if I had been working more than part-time.
Becky
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#169 · Posted: 1 Dec 2008 15:04
westfam11: I have to disagree Laura, I have been in Trivita for five months and have almost paid for my position which was 1750 when I joined. I would say that is very good in a MLM which I have been working very part-time. I would have paid for it even sooner if I had been working more than part-time.
I do not think that is the experience of most people Becky. I have several members in my downline who purchased many customers and are not seeing the returns. It is a gamble and you have to admit that.
TriVita is a good company but the real money earners have thousands of customers. Not everyone can afford that in a short amount of time.
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#170 · Posted: 4 Dec 2008 17:35
success9: I use to look at the negative with RIOY, ask laura, LOL but I don't any more. The positive out weigh the negative. I try to stay away from negativity I signed up under laura at the VIP Marketer level. Where else can you find a company send you $300 monthly checks for 3 years for only a $1,500 investment. The retention rate should also be a lot higher, way less drop outs, since you will have your $300 checks coming in, month after month for 3 years. Not only that, look at Mexegen compensation plan, only 30 people $1,900 a month. 120 people six figure income. WOW!. Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Dave
Yes Dave...I do remember and I like the change of heart. You have been very good with numbers and you are making it possible for people to see the beauty of RIOY.
I'd say it is the only way to go!!
I'm happy to have you a part of our team.
In the future, we are going to have a conference call to share some marketing ideas for our team. I was even thinking of an advertising co-op....many possiblilities.
Take care,
Laura
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#171 · Posted: 6 Dec 2008 08:50
success9: I looked at Trivita before and the one thing I didn't like about buying the customers is that you didn't get paid on the customers first order. Buying 100 customers if I'm not mistaken would coust you $50 x 100 =$5,000. How many people are re ordering out of 100 customers? Sorry If I sound down on Trivita. It just wasn't for me. Thanks Dave
That has been my dilemma Dave. My commissions this month were less than I had to pay for products and customers. No profit.
Remember, I am a 2 star BA. I am all ready very much in profit from Maxegen and LHN because my products are paid for me.
Take a look at these numbers that Jerry produced.
I just realized something else! I didn't even add in the "Platinum Car Bonus Payment" that one gets when they sign up 10 people. With that example I gave that applies also!
Sooooo lets crunch a little more.
What this means is that with this bonus and a full matrix you would receive 5% of every sale in your LHN matrix every month! With 1364 people buying $100.00 autoships that comes to $6820.00 more per month!
So since I had 20 sign ups in that example the income projection with LHN changes some. Now:
1. Level 2- When full you will receive $180.00+$100.00 in the car bonus =$280.00 per month for filling level 2. The $100.00 is 20 people with a $100.00 autoship times 5%. The sign up bonus is another $960.00 but that is just a one time payment.
2. Level 3- When full you will receive $820.00+$420.00 in the car bonus. The $420.00 is 84 people with a $100.00 autoship times 5%. All together you make $1240.00 per month. And now there is no sign up bonus since with my example I only had someone sign up the first 2 levels.
3. Level 4- Hold on now! When full you will receive $11,060.00+$1700.00 in the car bonus. The $1700.00 is 340 people with a $100.00 autoship times 5%. All together you make $12,760.00 per month. Again, no sign up bonuses.
4. Level 5-Finally when full you will receive $21,300.00+$6820.00 in the car bonus. The $6820.00 is 1364 people with a $100.00 autoship times 5%. All together you will make $28,120.00 a month! Again, no sign up bonus but who cares at this point!
Put that together and you would make $337,440.00 a year after filling 5 levels in LHN alone!
If as in my example you add Maxegen's first matrix only you make $30,040.00 a month and $360,480.00 a year!
As it turns out I wasn't so far off by adding more sign up bonuses since I didn't add in the car bonus.
I wasn't going to do this tonight until I thought about the car bonus that I knew was there but had never really looked at. LHN also has the option of someone rejoining their own matrix on the 4th level and starting another. No, I'm not doing that one.
Another thing here folks, this was the LHN matrix. The Maxegen one grows in income much faster. I only did Maxegen's first matrix. I've sent a few support tickets in to both companies to find out more.
Like Laura says: Lets learn all we can about our companies!
Finally, free autoships for 3 years to build these. Are you kidding? Click on a link and find out about this folks. This obviously won't happen overnight but does it have to? Look where you are even halfway through this! 2009. The year our dreams begin to be realized!
This is really exciting and attainable!
Take care,
Laura
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#172 · Posted: 6 Dec 2008 14:09
Laura with the copy and paste!
That is a nice compliment coming from our moneymakingmathteacher! And these numbers are something that anyone in RIOY can attain because the autoships are paid for which in turn gives us 3 years to build for free!
That is just the LHN side of it! The Maxegen side is even more incredible because it happens even faster! Much faster!
There is no question that 2009 will be the beginning of our trek to financial freedom! Between the RIOY system and our team there is no question where we are going. Up! 
Jerry
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#173 · Posted: 7 Dec 2008 15:20
Jerryjg62: Laura with the copy and paste! That is a nice compliment coming from our moneymakingmathteacher! And these numbers are something that anyone in RIOY can attain because the autoships are paid for which in turn gives us 3 years to build for free! That is just the LHN side of it! The Maxegen side is even more incredible because it happens even faster! Much faster! There is no question that 2009 will be the beginning of our trek to financial freedom! Between the RIOY system and our team there is no question where we are going. Up! Jerry
I'm counting down the days Jerry until Dec. 23.....then full time working to promote this business and working with my team!
RIOY is the way to go if you want to supplement or replace your income. You know you will be getting $300 a month checks for 3 years for your one time deposit. YOu know that.
What compares to that??? Please tell me!
Take care,
Laura
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#174 · Posted: 8 Dec 2008 12:40
LauraLicata: I'm counting down the days Jerry until Dec. 23.....then full time working to promote this business and working with my team! RIOY is the way to go if you want to supplement or replace your income. You know you will be getting $300 a month checks for 3 years for your one time deposit. YOu know that. What compares to that??? Please tell me! Take care, Laura
I thought you were going to quit this week? Are you sure you don't want to teach anymore? I know you were out in this job but there are probably other places you could eventually teach. I just want you to be happy. I really do. You are too wonderful a person to not care about. And I think you know how I feel about you.
OK enough of that. You are so right about RIOY! This is a crazy opportunity to be able to build these businesses for free for 3 years! The numbers produced are so possible because of like Dave said, the retention rate will be 100% if people come in through RIOY. No worrying about paying that autoship! And in 3 years you won't even be worrying about that autoship payment because you will be making so much!
By the way, my next crunching post will show even more vividly how fast this can happen! I'm taking a different angle this time. That is unless Pat thinks of it first! 
And finally to answer your question: No! Nothing compares to the program that RIOY offers! The freedom in this economy to build your own home business or businesses for free is crazy! But that is what we have!
Jerry
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#175 · Posted: 9 Dec 2008 12:04
Jerryjg62: I thought you were going to quit this week? Are you sure you don't want to teach anymore? I know you were out in this job but there are probably other places you could eventually teach. I just want you to be happy. I really do. You are too wonderful a person to not care about. And I think you know how I feel about you. OK enough of that. You are so right about RIOY! This is a crazy opportunity to be able to build these businesses for free for 3 years! The numbers produced are so possible because of like Dave said, the retention rate will be 100% if people come in through RIOY. No worrying about paying that autoship! And in 3 years you won't even be worrying about that autoship payment because you will be making so much! By the way, my next crunching post will show even more vividly how fast this can happen! I'm taking a different angle this time. That is unless Pat thinks of it first! And finally to answer your question: No! Nothing compares to the program that RIOY offers! The freedom in this economy to build your own home business or businesses for free is crazy! But that is what we have! Jerry
Hey Jerry...thanks for doing that number crunching. It will really help make people see how this program is really going somewhere.
By the way, they asked me to stay until the 23rd of December but I have taken a day off now and then....like today.
Someone brought up a great point to me about the beauty of RIOY. No other program literally pays you for 3 years from a one time down payment of $1500. Why would anyone leave or give up if you will be getting those checks.
It only makes sense that you would stick with the program because RIOY is helping you to build your business and you will be seeing results...real profit...in a very reasonable amount of time.
RIOY is the only way!
Take care,
Laura
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#176 · Posted: 9 Dec 2008 19:35
LauraLicata: Someone brought up a great point to me about the beauty of RIOY. No other program literally pays you for 3 years from a one time down payment of $1500. Why would anyone leave or give up if you will be getting those checks. It only makes sense that you would stick with the program because RIOY is helping you to build your business and you will be seeing results...real profit...in a very reasonable amount of time. RIOY is the only way! Take care, Laura
The new number cruncher post is up in the other forums.
The great point that someone told you about is something I've been saying on the forums for as long as RIOY has been involved in Maxegen and LHN. They probably read it off one of our posts! In fact it is in the post you just quoted! LOL
And there is no question that RIOY is the only way to go! With autoships being paid for you will have more people staying in the matrix's (there, I said it again) and more money for everyone! 2009 will rock folks! And it will be because of RIOY and this amazing system!
Jerry
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#177 · Posted: 10 Dec 2008 14:38
I've just signed up for the postcard system. How long do you think I should wait until I get my 10 signups? I don't want to be waiting too long. I'm trying to give myself an estimate just in case I decide to go for the other options. Thanks.
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#178 · Posted: 10 Dec 2008 14:41 · Edited by: success9
I think alot depends on the mailing list they are using. Don't forget, you are talking sending only 100 postcards out a month.
Dave
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#179 · Posted: 10 Dec 2008 17:24
shelstar: I've just signed up for the postcard system. How long do you think I should wait until I get my 10 signups? I don't want to be waiting too long. I'm trying to give myself an estimate just in case I decide to go for the other options. Thanks.
Hey shelstar
The lists are from Karl's leads in other programs. How they will respond is anyone's guess.
As Dave has said and I back him up on this, it will probably be a while before you get to 10 sign ups. That is alot to get. Especially with only 100 going out a month.
If you have the money and I know it is an if, you should try to get into LHN and Maxegen as soon as you can. These matrix's are something you want to get into as fast as you can.
But it does depend first and foremost on your financial situation.
I hope that helps a little.
Jerry
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#180 · Posted: 11 Dec 2008 13:00
Jerryjg62: The new number cruncher post is up in the other forums. The great point that someone told you about is something I've been saying on the forums for as long as RIOY has been involved in Maxegen and LHN. They probably read it off one of our posts! In fact it is in the post you just quoted! LOL And there is no question that RIOY is the only way to go! With autoships being paid for you will have more people staying in the matrix's (there, I said it again) and more money for everyone! 2009 will rock folks! And it will be because of RIOY and this amazing system! Jerry
I think the number cruncher post needs to be here too Jerry. It's a beautiful thing to see.
When you see those numbers along with the fact that RIOY pays you for 3 years to build your business, it is virtually impossible to not see how RIOY is the best home business out there!
I have very good feelings about 2009!
Take care,
Laura
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