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eaglegene Forums Member
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#121 · Posted: 12 Apr 2011 12:41
Ok Thanks. Last night i did sign up for the $75 vendor program. So far i have had 3 people contact me just from posting on facebook and they are interested in the product. Will send them samples and hopefully make some sales
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eaglegene Forums Member
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#122 · Posted: 12 Apr 2011 12:44
On a side note RTPR is working great on my toe with gout. I had put it on around 3pm and i was still feeling good till around 6am when it started to hurt a bit. I put more RTPR on and the pain went away again. I put some RTPR on my back, i have chronic back pain, and it also helped with that too. Cant wait to get my vendor pack so i can spread the news about RTPR.
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jedwinvellore Forums Member
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#123 · Posted: 12 Apr 2011 19:18
Hi I think pain relief should be by natural methods. Using a product unless it is for external application could be hazardous. Dave
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eaglegene Forums Member
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#124 · Posted: 12 Apr 2011 23:21
jedwinvellore: Hi I think pain relief should be by natural methods. Using a product unless it is for external application could be hazardous. Dave What do you mean by "natural" methods? Herbs?
The positive about RTPR is that it is external. Though it does absorb into the skin. Quite honestly i have used many many things including herbs, and all kinds of joint pain relief pills and so far RTPR works the best.
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eaglegene Forums Member
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#125 · Posted: 13 Apr 2011 15:49
RTPR is continuing to work on my chronic pain areas. Cant wait to get my vendor pack so i have more product to use as well as give out sample packs. I have been contacted by 6 people in the past 3 days who would like to receive samples.
I ordered the vendor pack early Tuesday morning, i think. Wonder how long it takes to receive it?
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Just2EZ
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 517
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#126 · Posted: 13 Apr 2011 16:19
It's shipped by Priority Mail, usually same day if you order before 8am. Figure postal time from Oklahoma City, shouldn't be more than 2-3 days. They do say "allow 7-10 days" just to be on the safe side. Friday-Sunday orders don't go out until Monday. Do plan on ordering well in advance of need. I found myself without several times.
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ecoupons Forums Member
Joined: 3 Apr 2011 Posts: 25
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#127 · Posted: 13 Apr 2011 16:21
A company like this is sure to be short lived and is as credible as MonaVie!
Instead of advertising how people can have temporary pain relief and cashing out on their chronic suffering, why not help them by giving them suggestions on how to permanently get rid of the pain, if not reduce it.
Also, this type of supplement is almost exactly like Icy Hot! Any sort of medicine that is 100% legitimate and 100% effective will not be distributed via an affiliate program!
Lastly, I find it sad that people would actually join such a program clearly targeted towards taking advantage of the elderly. This program disgusts me
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Just2EZ
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#128 · Posted: 13 Apr 2011 16:55
ecoupons: clearly targeted towards taking advantage of the elderly. Interesting since RTPR started with youth sports leagues.
ecoupons: temporary pain relief Reducing inflammation, increasing circulation, and reducing pain promotes healing.
ecoupons: Also, this type of supplement is almost exactly like Icy Hot! I think EagleGene made it clear that it is nothing like Icy Hot, which I used to use.
ecoupons: will not be distributed via an affiliate program I would almost agree with that if not for all the legitimate affiliate programs.
ecoupons: A company like this is sure to be short lived and is as credible as MonaVie! Uh, they've already been in business 12 years, what's your motive?
ecoupons: giving them suggestions on how to permanently get rid of the pain Huh? Apparently you haven't been reading this board long. Nor my blog posts on natural pain relief, which includes RTPR. Fast, natural, and SAFE, unlike the pain killers it replaces. I know why I promote it and it ain't to take money from old folks. It is because it works better than anything I ever used, and that's a lot. What disgust me is all the commercial "pain killer" drugs with death warnings. That includes aspirin, read the label.
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ecoupons Forums Member
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#129 · Posted: 13 Apr 2011 19:44
Just2EZ: Interesting since RTPR started with youth sports leagues. Still doesn't change the fact that this is clearly directed towards the elderly. Young athletes can prevent this sort of pain simply by taking glucosamine pills (super cheap), drinking milk (Calcium) and stretching. I prefer to promote healthy habits. But then again, that's just me.
Just2EZ: Reducing inflammation, increasing circulation, and reducing pain promotes healing. I guess you don't understand the physiology of the human body very well. Stretching will do wonders and most importantly, it's free.
Just2EZ: Huh? Apparently you haven't been reading this board long. Nor my blog posts on natural pain relief, which includes RTPR. Fast, natural, and SAFE, unlike the pain killers it replaces. I know why I promote it and it ain't to take money from old folks. It is because it works better than anything I ever used, and that's a lot. What disgust me is all the commercial "pain killer" drugs with death warnings. That includes aspirin, read the label. I will agree with you on the solicitation of "pain killers" and all those drugs. However, my close network of friends puts me in contact with a lot of people in the health field and I can say this with the utmost confidence: This "pain relief" affiliate program is extremely overpriced, especially since there are free alternatives (healthy habits) that will give you relief long term. If you are fine promoting temporary solutions to pain relief when you know there are better alternatives, than that's on you.
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Just2EZ
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#130 · Posted: 13 Apr 2011 20:18
ecoupons You are totally off base with your assumptions. For me it was a frozen shoulder making exercise painful, creating more Substance P. I am an active adult who has lived with chronic pain for over 40 years. RTPR has made it so I can be MORE ACTIVE with less pain, promoting healing. It is not a temporary solution. If you read the ingredients you would understand why. I am very much in to holistic healing as many of my posts prove. Show me a better alternative for someone crippled by pain. Read some of the testimonials from real RTPR customers. I hear enough from my friends and family to satisfy me.
ecoupons: I will agree with you on the solicitation of "pain killers" and all those drugs. People already spend over $86 Billion a year on "pain relief". Compared to products that offer less pain resolution RTPR is fairly priced. Have you even seen the price of one Celebrex tablet that "may result in death"? I'm all for exercising but for too many people that becomes impossible. RTPR is not targeting seniors, seniors are begging for relief. There are plenty of sports enthusiasts using RTPR including marathon runners and fitness coaches that I personally know. Your criticism is not founded on due diligence.
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ecoupons Forums Member
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#131 · Posted: 13 Apr 2011 20:22
Typical Affiliate response. Unless you are a practicing MD, I know far more about how the body works than you or your fitness coaches do. Regardless, this is going nowhere. Good luck with your affiliate business.
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Just2EZ
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#132 · Posted: 13 Apr 2011 21:18
ecoupons: Unless you are a practicing MD There are practicing MDs, PTs, and many health professionals who recommend RTPR. My "affiliate business" is also Vendor business, buying wholesale and selling retail. I have repeat customers who buy it from me because it works for them.
I hope you are never crippled by pain but I know far to many who were. For them, and me, it is a miracle even though it is really homeopathic science. Bash the affiliate program all you want, it won't change the results. It will however affect how we view your own affiliate business offers. No one is required to sign anyone up to make money with RTPR. The focus is on sharing the product with people crippled by pain. If they experience relief they can Enjoy Living Again and exercise.
ecoupons: Unless you are a practicing MD, I know far more about how the body works than you or your fitness coaches do. My, what an egotistical statement.
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eaglegene Forums Member
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#133 · Posted: 14 Apr 2011 00:25 · Edited by: eaglegene
I work in a Rehabilitation Hospital (Healthsouth) and they use Bio Freeze here, which was given to me by our therapist, when i hurt my back here at work a few years ago and it did very little for me other than feel like icy hot. The RTPR works way better. I can only be honest. If i dont make a sale im fine with it. The RTPR gives me the advantage to reduce/eliminate pain & inflammation and do the exercise that i have been inhibited from doing as a result of my issues.
As far as taking advantage of the elderly, of all the people who contacted me for free samples not one of them is over 47 years old.
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ecoupons Forums Member
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#134 · Posted: 14 Apr 2011 00:51
Just2EZ
Not an egotistical comment, just fact. Anyways, as I said earlier, good luck to you and your affiliate program.
BTW, have you ever heard of Helio Gracie? If you haven't, have you watched any MMA fight? If you have, I'm sure you've heard of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu (BJJ). You see, BJJ stresses the importance of flexibility and exercise, which reduces inflamation via increased circulation and results in reduction of pain and promotion of the healing process.
Now BJJ was founded by Helio Gracie (some stories say otherwise, but the general consensus is that he is the father of BJJ) and this martial art was spread throughout the world by the Gracie Family. BJJ is now considered one of the essentials for anyone who fights under a MMA promotion company.
Where am I going with this? Helio Gracie died at the age of 95, practicing BJJ, yoga, and eating healthy till his death. He was a healthy man that did not need the temporary fix that you advertise. This is yet another example of how healthy habits are a much better alternative.
Anyways, good luck with your affiliate program. Keep in mind that I'm not saying that it doesn't work, I'm just saying that there are much better alternatives out there that cost nothing.
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eaglegene Forums Member
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#135 · Posted: 14 Apr 2011 00:59 · Edited by: eaglegene
ecoupons
The problem with your argument is that not all people live a healthy lifestyle or that they are injured and cannot get passed the pain to exercise. I was contacted by a woman whose husband was an athlete and was in a car accident years ago and can barely walk and exercise as a result of the pain. She is looking for something to ease the pain so he can get up and move around. Afterwhich hopefully the RTPR can buy him some time to get in shape to be more active then possibly he wont need anything for pain. Its hard for alot of people to get passed the pain and be active....
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#136 · Posted: 14 Apr 2011 01:07
Fair enough, eaglegene. I don't want to extend this debate any further. I agree that under certain circumstances, chronic pain is inevitable. For the rest of us, a healthy life style is key.
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eaglegene Forums Member
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#137 · Posted: 14 Apr 2011 12:20 · Edited by: eaglegene
Received my vendor pack today. FAST shipping, only took 2 days. Cant wait to get the samples out to people in need.....
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Just2EZ
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#138 · Posted: 15 Apr 2011 11:56
Super Saturday Training Webinar at 11:30am Eastern/8:30am Pacific time. They will be covering the "Blueprint for Success" which explains the bonuses, such as what it takes to earn the extra 2%/mo and the $25K/qtr bonuses. It is laid out in a 24 month plan to get you making at least $2,500/mo + The link to the webinar can be found on RTPR.com/blog The audio will be available by Monday for those who can't attend Saturday. Teamwork makes the Dream work.
ecoupons: Fair enough, eaglegene. I don't want to extend this debate any further. I agree that under certain circumstances, chronic pain is inevitable. For the rest of us, a healthy life style is key. Ah c'mon, debate is good for everyone, especially the 1 in 3 with chronic pain. I probably should have mentioned our print ads... One of them says "Enjoy Exercising Again!".
The comments about being like Icey Hot are why RTPR is not in Walmart. We don't want it sitting on a shelf next to stinky stuff that is just menthol. The biggest competition is from Bio-Freeze who's active ingredient is menthol. RTPR's active ingredients are Arnica Montana 3x, and Capsicum. Some other products offer one or the other but not both, and they are pricey. RTPR has over a dozen homeopathic ingredients including Emu Oil and Aloe Vera.
Our mission is to help people get mobile again without taking pain "killers".
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eaglegene Forums Member
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#139 · Posted: 15 Apr 2011 15:45
I was initially on pain killers with my chronic back pain. It was very expensive since my health benes werent all that good. They also made me fall aslpeep at work anytime i sat down for breaks & even drowsy when i drove. Not good. I dont like pumping my body full of meds. Always prefer a more natural approach. For me, RTPR is the best option for now. Best thing i have used.
I gave some to my friend at work last night, he works 2nd shift. He has fibromyalgia and has leg pain. I gave him 3 sample packs and he applied some on his leg, around the calf area. After the 3rd application he said the pain was far less then what it had been before he applied RTPR. I will give him 3 more sample packs so he can contnue to test it out before he commits to a jar of RTPR. I hope it gives him relief in the longterm....
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Just2EZ
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#140 · Posted: 15 Apr 2011 18:15 · Edited by: Just2EZ
My oldest daughter suffers severely from Fibromyalgia and took prescriptions for years. After her divorce and loss of insurance she switched to extra strength Tylenols When I saw her with bottles of 1,000 and eating handfuls I became passionate about getting her off of them, along with her younger sister. Not just the risk of kidney failure but the chemical imbalances caused by pills. IT TAKES A LOT of RTPR to deal with RA, Fibromyalgia, gout, and other chronic pains. All of those problems are best treated through diet and exercise which RTPR can help. Yes, RTPR can help the diet because you are not eating pills that are toxic. That is not to say ignore your doctor's prescription, but find a better doctor.
I myself use about 3/10 of an ounce per day but I am at the extreme end. That's one 4 oz jar or bottle every 2 weeks, double that when I started. Then again, I had 40+ years of injuries keeping me from a full range of motion. I always enjoy living but it's amazing how much more now that I am pain free. Substance P is also associated with depression and pain killers amplify the problem. Blocking the signal is not the answer to pain relief.
NATURAL SUBSTANCE P REDUCERS for your diet:
Cayenne Curcummin (Tumeric) Ginger Vinegar and foods with omega-3 fatty acids
And, to pacify ecoupons, EXCERCISE IS THE BEST Substance P reducer.
InJoy, jimmy
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