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Vision18
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#1 · Posted: 7 Aug 2008 06:35
Has anyone heard about The Overnight Cash System (TOCS)
Or (The Overnight Cash Explsion)
If you do a search online you will probably find multiple websites which direct you to it.
1. Is this program legal?
2. How much does it cost to join?
3. You have to give some personal information before you find out anything more and I don't really like that
4. Is anyone involved with this program that is satisfied with it?
Thank you all for your time.
Have a great day!
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#2 · Posted: 7 Aug 2008 12:00
I've never heard of it, but the name bugs me - it is VERY hard to make money over night. If you have a link, that might help some of us evaluate it.
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#3 · Posted: 7 Aug 2008 12:28
i think its a CASH GIFTING PROGRAM ...
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#4 · Posted: 7 Aug 2008 16:11
I don't know - most of those are scams, but if you find a way to make tons of cash overnight, I am sure everyone would love to hear about it.
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#5 · Posted: 7 Aug 2008 16:20
hello, it is not a scam, its a cash gifting program. you can join from $250 up to $10,000.
It really works and I know the site seems a little hyped but if you work on the marketing it works.
And its called overnight cash system because the money is sent through an overnight courrier like DHL, UPS or Fedex.
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#6 · Posted: 7 Aug 2008 16:58 · Edited by: 040107
jltp18: hello, it is not a scam, its a cash gifting program. you can join from $250 up to $10,000. It really works and I know the site seems a little hyped but if you work on the marketing it works. And its called overnight cash system because the money is sent through an overnight courrier like DHL, UPS or Fedex.
Whatever...
It's a 6-tier 1-up cash gifting scheme.
Starter Tier - $250 + admin fee
Tier 1 - $500 + admin fee
Tier 2 - $1000 + admin fee
Tier 3 - $2500 + admin fee
Tier 4 - $5000 + admin fee
Tier 5 - $10,000 + admin fee
You pick the tier you want to come in at then you try to get others
in as well. You can only receive as much as the tier you're in.
For example, you come in at Tier 1, you can only receive $500 from
others Tier 1 members whom you've recruited. If you come in at
Tier 2, you could receive $1000 as well as $500 payments from
people who come under you at Tier 1 & 2. You'll need to upgrade
to higher tiers if you want to receive payments from higher tiers.
1-up means your first recruit's payments always goes up to your
sponsor. So the people that you recruit, their first payments goes
to you also.
PAY ATTENTION!
Regardless of what people who are participating in those gifting
programs will tell you, here are the facts....
Cash gifting in itself is legal. There isn't anything wrong with that.
Friends and family help each other out all the time by giving gifts of
value. We even give money to strangers on the streets. So it must
be legal.
Yes, HOWEVER, gifting refers to giving or donating without expecting
anything in return.
So that means even though it's called "cash gifting" technically it's
not gifting. Remember that...
But they're calling it gifting, so it must be legal, right?
The problem lies in how they're marketing the scheme. If they tell
ya to send them your money for nothing in return, would you do it?
Well, if they did that, how many would be stupid enough to send
them money? However, it's quite obvious they're telling you about
the cash that they make and that you could be making the same
if you join and send them the money. That my friend is when it's
no longer legally a cash gift.
Okay, you ever wondered why they never send checks or money
orders?
That because cash transaction is practically untraceable. If anything
did go wrong, there is no nothing to prove that you sent them any
money.
It's the hype and the amount of cash that draws people into these
scheme. I'm not saying that if you join, you'll lose your money. For
all I know, people could be raking in tons of money.
But at the heart of it all, it's still an illegal operation and a pyramid
scheme. It's a pyramid scheme being that it's not a legal cash gift
and there's no product behind the scheme. And since you're not
selling anything, the only way for you to make money is to recruit
new people, which is mathematically impossible for everyone to
make money. That makes it a pyramid scheme.
If you're blinded by money and greed, good luck.
Read my thread about ASD. There's a link to the FTC about gifting
programs.
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#7 · Posted: 7 Aug 2008 18:41
that's a very good post....almost got caught into one of these but just didn't feel right in my gut. Plus taxes can get very tricky with gifting as well
I am sure plenty of people do well with it (check out youtube) but it just seems "sketchy" I guess the same way I felt when approached with ASD 
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#8 · Posted: 13 Aug 2008 15:46
Vision18: Has anyone heard about The Overnight Cash System (TOCS) Or (The Overnight Cash Explsion)
Don't have any clue, but let me give you some advices.
If I were you, I wouldn't step on something that I'm not sure with. I will completely do a research and if my inside will tell me "Do IT!", I'll do it, but carrying in my mind the fact that I have to be responsible for the spent money, and work hard to get them back through the given system.
So, nothing is illegal, as long as you told yourself, I can do it!
Just my 0,00000001 cents.
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#9 · Posted: 13 Aug 2008 18:11
fbl3ssingm: but carrying in my mind the fact that I have to be responsible for the spent money,
Very well said... We are, after all responsible adults and when we spend money on a venture we are the ones at fault if it turns out to be an unwise decision...
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#10 · Posted: 14 Aug 2008 03:39
mountainmom5: we are the ones at fault if it turns out to be an unwise decision...
not necessary. I tend to disagree with you in one way; same time, I do agree. It all depends first on yourself, how strong you are in your decision making. Second, it depends on the world you live in. If people don't encourage you (refer to different kind of personalities), than you could easily go down (if you're not enough with your mind UP).
but yes, let's say that I am directed toward "Agreeing" than, the opposite.
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#11 · Posted: 28 Aug 2008 06:46
fbl3ssingm: ...I will completely do a research and if my inside will tell me "Do IT!", I'll do it, but carrying in my mind the fact that I have to be responsible for the spent money, and work hard to get them back through the given system. So, nothing is illegal, as long as you told yourself, I can do it!
Sorry, but this has got to be the worst advice given.
What's illegal doesn't become legal as long as you tell yourself "I
can do it!".
Many people become very successful at illegal activities.
Many people are very successful at defrauding others.
Many people become successful at running illegal schemes.
Does giving yourself a mental boost all of a sudden makes whatever
you do legal?
Responsible for your money spent?
C'mon...
How about responsible to the people that you convinced to join in
the same illegal activities as you?
Yes, we're all to blame for our own actions, but what happens when
we based our decisions on misrepresentations and false
information from those we trust or those who are running these
schemes?
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#12 · Posted: 28 Aug 2008 21:41
040107: fbl3ssingm: ...I will completely do a research and if my inside will tell me "Do IT!", I'll do it, but carrying in my mind the fact that I have to be responsible for the spent money, and work hard to get them back through the given system. So, nothing is illegal, as long as you told yourself, I can do it! Sorry, but this has got to be the worst advice given. What's illegal doesn't become legal as long as you tell yourself "I can do it!". Many people become very successful at illegal activities. Many people are very successful at defrauding others. Many people become successful at running illegal schemes. Does giving yourself a mental boost all of a sudden makes whatever you do legal? Responsible for your money spent? C'mon... How about responsible to the people that you convinced to join in the same illegal activities as you? Yes, we're all to blame for our own actions, but what happens when we based our decisions on misrepresentations and false information from those we trust or those who are running these schemes?
It seems that I made myself not understandable. I apologize.
What I have wrote above, is only my opinion and I'm trying my best to live it the way I currently do it.
I am responsible for every little cent I spend. this is what I referred do. Just see it on the opposite as I explained, and maybe you'll understand.
But again, I respect your statements and thank you for getting back to me. I appreciate it.
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#13 · Posted: 28 Aug 2008 21:43
040107: Yes, we're all to blame for our own actions, but what happens when we based our decisions on misrepresentations and false information from those we trust or those who are running these schemes?
That is why i said: REASEARCH, RESEARCH.
In the event the unfortunate will still happen, you need to live with it and LIVE your life positively. Without risks, you don't show anyone you really want to become a business man/girl.
A brief example: USA is the 1st country in the whole world that owns money to the whole world (yes, they borrowed money). Yet, the USA is one of the richest one. How do you explain this?
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#14 · Posted: 28 Aug 2008 22:34
Overnight Cash? Not gonna happen. Period.
If you want to make some money online, it will take some time and effort on your part. How much time depends on your efforts. I am currently at $480 after about 2 months, part time (I have a real job too).
Jaime McCarley
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#15 · Posted: 31 Aug 2008 02:27
mountainmom5: fbl3ssingm: but carrying in my mind the fact that I have to be responsible for the spent money, Very well said... We are, after all responsible adults and when we spend money on a venture we are the ones at fault if it turns out to be an unwise decision...
You can say so. But you know what? The fault that turns out to be an unwise decision now, could be a good lesson for tomorrow day. And of course, you'll be unwise+1 (might equal wise?!)...
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#16 · Posted: 31 Aug 2008 02:28
Silverstone: Overnight Cash? Not gonna happen. Period.
Is anybody dreaming about this? Yes, I think those guys that are not working, but laying down in the bed, watching tv and chewing on onion chips. When they hear about Money overnight, they will sell even their last piece of chip, just to get money overnight. But it won't happen.
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#17 · Posted: 31 Aug 2008 02:44 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
fbl3ssingm: mountainmom5: fbl3ssingm: but carrying in my mind the fact that I have to be responsible for the spent money, Very well said... We are, after all responsible adults and when we spend money on a venture we are the ones at fault if it turns out to be an unwise decision..
WHY is the very first concern about gifting always about whether or not it is LEGAL?
And as for responsibility, check the ASD information out there.
The AG is looking into EVERYONE who profited large from that scheme.
I sure hope they used some of those earnings to shore up their credit ratings, cause I have a feeling they are gonna be in need of a sizable LOAN!!
Good luck to all...
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#18 · Posted: 31 Aug 2008 03:04
040107: Read my thread about ASD. There's a link to the FTC about gifting programs.
The ASD forum is shutdown as you know.
That FTC link about gifting may do a world of good right here, on this still open thread...
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#19 · Posted: 31 Aug 2008 14:34
TJamMoneyMan: fbl3ssingm: mountainmom5: fbl3ssingm: but carrying in my mind the fact that I have to be responsible for the spent money, Very well said... We are, after all responsible adults and when we spend money on a venture we are the ones at fault if it turns out to be an unwise decision.. WHY is the very first concern about gifting always about whether or not it is LEGAL? And as for responsibility, check the ASD information out there. The AG is looking into EVERYONE who profited large from that scheme. I sure hope they used some of those earnings to shore up their credit ratings, cause I have a feeling they are gonna be in need of a sizable LOAN!! Good luck to all...
Can you please give us some more details? To be honest with you, I didn't get anything from your message.
Thank you for your reply.
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#20 · Posted: 31 Aug 2008 17:21
fbl3ssingm: Can you please give us some more details? To be honest with you, I didn't get anything from your message. Thank you for your reply.
I am trying to understand your message here as well.
Are you looking for details on ASD?
And There are closed threads on this forum you can read through.
PLENTY of information on the web, since SOOOooo many people lost SOOOoooo much money...
But I was mainly saying that many programs out there are questionable as to their legality.
That's for sure.
I would imagine the 'authorities' can't afford to track every single solitary website for complete legality.
I would expect them to take a closer look when the money starts to flowin' large.
Or, they could be alerted if someone files a complaint.
But if you find yourself making tons of money, like folx were with ASD,
well, if/when the time comes, the 'authorites' are gonna be looking at the big earners, as contributing to the scam. And at the very least, their earnings will likely be considered 'ill gotten gains'. Possibly subject to being confiscated or repaid.
I will say that I saw among the investigative material, lists of people who earned 5 figure sums and more with ASD.
It'd have to make your stomach twinge a bit, to see your name up there.
Kinda making you wonder how much you could get for that yacht you just bought!
HOPEFULLY, those folx put that money in an interest earning, FDIC insured account.
And kept it there!
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