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#101 · Posted: 17 Jul 2007 08:05 · Edited by: luvtravel
Denya Bayne
Thank you for your response, how long have you and your Dad been working with Jaguar?
We already have a fantastic automated marketing system and we have a staff of professional closers in AZ. they close only our Coastal vacations membership. They do not close any secondary businesses their focus is on our primary business. In addition we have a leads generating and call automated system in which we get 1000 leads for $150 and the calls are also automated. So as you can see my husband and I are very familiar how automation helps and saves us time as we run a very successful business earning a 6 figure income.
I am aware that multiple income streams is certainly ok, adding other money generating businesses is like investing in several different stocks and bonds for a Portfolio, our Portfolio at the moment focuses on Travel as I have over 12 yrs in the industry and my husband is a Pharmacist and we both enjoy traveling.
Your post was very informative, should we decide to add to our Portfolio of top tier programs we will let you know. We only work with top income businesses.
Wishing you much success!!
Terri
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#102 · Posted: 17 Jul 2007 11:50
Hi Terri,
Thanks for your kind remarks. We have been on board since the tail end of last year. Yes, we also usually do 5 figures per month. However, we never assume that we will do that no matter how high last month's numbers got. In otherwords we work our business. We treat it like a business and that's one of the reasons why we get business results. It sounds as though you are of the same mindset. That's great.
I have a question. You mentioned you pay for leads. You did not say how much your call center runs you. Is it a buy in figure and then so much a month and then a commission on top of that???
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#103 · Posted: 17 Jul 2007 20:52
Denya
Yes, our call center is buy in and monthly but no commissions to the sales staff.
you make a MINIMUM $1000 Commission on EACH sale of a vacation membership... and we did all the work for you.
We show your prospects a simple and dynamic flash movie which explains the business. Now you don't have to do it.
We follow up your prospects with a 12 letter email follow up tool, with messages directing people to take action and get involved. Go do something else you love, with more time freedom.
We give you use of a Real Time tracking system so you can see our professional sales reps personal conversation notes in your private back office. This provides accountability and integrity for the system.
We have a live Q and A call where we present the business, so you don't have to, and answer questions from people all over the world, directing them to take action. Spend time doing other things while we answer the toughest questions for your prospects.
We have professional sales reps who treat people with respect and who don't use "hard closing techniques." They answer your prospects questions, present the business, and then follow up and help them to get started... so you don't have to.
You don't have to ask for the money, because our sales reps collect it for you and send you a check of $1000 or more from each sale, without you having to talk to your prospects.
We fulfill your products for you and send your new associates their vacation membership packages... no products to stock or handle. Now you are saving $10-$150 in shipping fees.
We provide you a special discounted price on over 1000 pieces of professionally and beautifully designed advertising materials which you can use to jump start your business. Theres no need to create your own material to get started.
We help you teach your new associate how to plug in to the system by duplicating your efforts and the efforts of others � Showing them how to advertise, place ads, and learn how to market the message. You sit back, and watch the checks roll in.
AND anyone can start for just a $795 buyin for our entry level.
If you're not able to purchase the Coastal Product and participate in the $1000 commissions just yet... Youl can still earn a minimum of $300 on each and every sale of any product sold while leveraging your way into the higher paying Coastal Product... Let's break that down for you.
Entry Level Package: $795.00
$300 Commission for you (Immediately - No qualifications to be met!)
$495 � Product Cost, Sales Center Activation Fee and Commission for the Professional Sale Rep who helped earn you that $300 check!
Access to over 170 Advertising & Marketing Resources, Real-Time Prospect Tracking, Weekly Training and Q&A Calls... and literally hours of audio and video tutorials to help you grow your business.
What happens if your marketing efforts yield sales of any of the Coastal Vacations Packages? (none of which you are qualified to receive commissions on at this time). Well... you still earn the $300.00 commission!
As a Sales Center Entry Level Member you will always be paid a minimum of $300 on the sale of any product including Coastal Memberships (LI, LII or LIII) generated through your marketing efforts!
What a great way to leverage your way into the higher paying levels of Coastal Vacations!
Terri
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#104 · Posted: 17 Jul 2007 22:01
Thanks for all the info. Sounds interesting. That's the same thing we like about Jaguar/Predator. However, let me clarify Jag just a bit. There are 2 sides to Jag. They are both totally independent.
The first, normal internet marketing side of Jag, is similar to what you explained except there is no buy in for the company 'call center.' Plus what we like, there is absolutely no monthly fee for Jag. Once you're in, you're in. All the company advisors are paid by the company. Just like you indicated, on every sale, a certain amount goes to the company. With a $4k Jag Platinum sale, the site owner keeps a full $3k profit and forwards the company's share to the company.
Now, just to clarify, the $10k per week program is totally different than what any other internet company offers. It uses a proven business model that promotes your online business offline.
Here again, let me briefly review the $10k side of Jag. Let's say you are one of those very few people that like to make outgoing calls. Let's also say that you are only able to make 200 calls per day. Now let's say that you are a Jag Platinum level site owner. That allows you to solicit for commissioned only sales people. Now lets say that you bring on board 9 salespeople your very first week (which is exactly what we did). That means you now have 1800 calls going out on your behalh every single day and now you only have to talk to 9 people. What do you think is going to happen to your income if you have 1800 calls going out on your behalf 6 days a week? That's 10,800 sales call per week. That's huge. Your income will explode.
Also, keep in mind, you don't even have to train any of these salespeople. Al Turnquist himself holds daily trainings for all of them and none of that costs you a penny. In fact the ads I place for the salespeople was also free.
You mentioned that you purchased leads. I think it was $150 for 1k. With the amount of call potential with $10k, that would obviously be a bad idea here. I never buy leads. 99.99% of everybody I talk to that have bought leads say it was a big waste of money.
Most site owners buy genealogy leads: 100k for about $20. Lots of sales are being made with this type of lead. But, what I do is to show my people how to get their own leads. It's absolutely free and they can get a few hundred in an hour. These are targeted leads. They are not of opportunity seekers, but actual proven opportunity buyers.
I show them how they can generate 40-50 inbound calls and emails everyday. When they combine that with their outbound efforts, it's huge. Plus, here's the twist. I never would call the people that my salespeople call. I just choose not to do any of that. So, any sale they make for me is a gift. In fact I don't even blink an eye when I give them their $1k commisssion. It's a no-brainer. I make $2k net and I did absolutely nothing other than spend about 10 minutes in the hiring process. Then when you add that to your full $3k profit per platinum sale from your normal interent market efforts.... Well, I think you can see the type of money available here.
Sorry, I didn't mean to write a novel. As you can see, we are very passionate about what we do and how we are able to help even the newest newbie get off to a fast start. Talk to you next time.
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#105 · Posted: 18 Jul 2007 01:59
LuvTravel - you would have to make an arrangement with
the salespeople so they are getting paid an appropriate
commission for the Coastal sales.
The reason they want the Jaguar Job is because of the
big commissions. In fact you could ask them to promote
any program you like when they are prospecting for
Jaguar sales... obviously lots of people won't come up with
$4000 and offering else, or something like travel, would
appeal to different people for different reasons.
You would just have to make sure the salesepeople are
getting paid for any program they close sales for.
Earlier comment mentioned Distate for the name Predator.
Thats partially why the Jaguar sister-site was developed.
I don't actually promote Predator anymore myself, just the
Jaguar brand.
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#106 · Posted: 18 Jul 2007 21:21
Malibu is exactly right. These folks are your salespeople. You can have them sell anything you want them to sell. Obviously the money is going to have to be there to keep them pumped. That's why Jag is so popular for the salespeople. Unless they are big time stock brokers or were in real estate previously, they have never seen a $1k commission in their life. Add that to the bonuses that the company itself offers and your salespeople can make great money with th $10k program.
We have even seen so much potential in the $10k side of Jag that we created a special hiring site that we pass out to all folks under us as well as a specific landing page that our salespeople send prospects to. Within 2 hours of launching that site we had made $4k in sales. We also give that site to all the folks under us.
I guess the point is that things are always on the rise with Jag. The profits are tremendous. Last week was a record breaking system wide week and the growth just continually stays on the upswing.
Ok, I'll get off my soap box. (but just for a little while)
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#107 · Posted: 19 Jul 2007 08:16
Thanks Denya, interesting thread I would say.
Most site owners buy genealogy leads: 100k for about $20.
Is this a part of the predator package or is this a seperate company? What's the name of this lead company.
The $150 for 1000 leads ALSO contains call blast feature. Your info is blasted to the 1000 people by phone, so imagine having 1000 people contacted by you by phone, than 1000 people get your email, good system, right?
Terri
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#108 · Posted: 19 Jul 2007 14:56
Yes, I like lots of people being called everyday. The personal touch is always advisable even above and beyond an email. That's exactly why I like the $10k program so much.
As for the genealogy lead company, they are all over the internet. The vast majority are totally worthless and just a waste of time. There are Jag sales being made with them but the greater amount of sales come from a technique we use that shows the salesperson how to get their own leads and it doesn't cost them a dime. The leads are higher quality and are proven buyers, not seekers.
I would not use your leads with the $10k program. I would use up 1,000 leads in less than a day. So, it would be too expensive. Plus, like I said, my people can get quality leads for free all day long. I'll give you an example from just one of my folks. He has 30 commissioned sales people calling 200 people per day, every day. That's 6000 calls per day going out on his behalf and he isn't doing a thing. The point is, that would be $900 worth of leads everyday from your company plus whatever monthly expense, etc. whether there was a sale or not. Doing it our way, There's zero lead cost, zero monthly cost, etc. In fact, you don't spend a dime on anything unless you made money that day. That's kind of a no brainer for me.
You obviously know the power of the phone call. Think about what 6,000 FREE and personal one on one calls (not automated calls) would do to your bottom line. Can anybody say Cha-ching. Plus, keep in mind that Jag is the only business that also helps build your current businessat the exact same time.
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#109 · Posted: 19 Jul 2007 22:44
Denya
do you ever run across people who really want to make the kind of income that you and I enjoy but just do not have the money to invest, cc are maxed, don't have a way to get the money, do you just go on and say....next....
Terri
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#110 · Posted: 20 Jul 2007 04:39
Why doesn't Al just record his trainings? charge a lower price?
Will craigslist get saturated with people looking for sales jobs and all the predator people grabbed em all and people are sick of seeing preditor ads in there?
People can duplicate this exact system right now, except for what Al teaches, so I guess that is why there is no MP3 trainings, it would devalue the cost of product, and allows people to pay the premium.
I also believe in MLM Genealogy leads too, but watch out for that DO NOT CALL LAW.
Callnig the wrong lead who has been sold 1000 times and got 200 calls will haunt ya.
How you you scub for DNC list leads in your genealogies?
In my team in my travel business, I teach them this system exacly, how to hire people on commission and have them make calls for you.
It's all about being a business owner, leveraging your efforts and the efforts of others.
great ideas in this thread.
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#111 · Posted: 21 Jul 2007 00:48
Yes Terri I do. However, I find those folk eventually to be some great members. They are the folks that really express personal responsibility. Let me explain.
We never get involved in low dollar programs. I know it's good to offer things at all levels, but for us, we always go for the higher dollar programs for one basic reason.
Let's say someone joins a $100 program. Sure they have money invested, but they aren't personally invested. Inotherwords, anybody can stand to lose $100. You just don't go out with your spouse that week to dinner and a movie and you're back to even.
On the other hand, when someone invests $4k into a full blown Jag system, they obviously have money invested, but you can also bet they are personally invested as well. That's exactly why some of the folks you mentioned are great members. They have to make this work. So they not only listen and learn but they are real eager to follow thru. You see, I find that most of those people that say they don't have any money really do. What they actually mean is that they don't have $4k to lose.
Then, what usually brings out the money in them is the 45 day Buy and Try Guarantee. They can invest the $4k, do what they're told and in 45 days if they don't have the $4k back in their pocket, the company will write them a $4k check. So, it becomes a no-brainer at that point. In fact 95% of all sales are at the Platinum level (everybody likes those $3k profit paydays..... including us).
One last thing about the guarantee. There is absolutely no better guarantee online or offline better than the jag guarantee. PERIOD! I can prove it. You know how it works for the new member. Now let's look at it from a site owner's point of view.
Let's say Johnnie joins today. I keep my $3k profit and send off $1k to the company. I know Johnnie is going to really dig into the $10k side of jag at the same time he begins to work the normal internet marketing side. I begin to think is this really a sale. What if for some reason Johnnie is the square peg in a round hole and does not make his $4k back. Man, do I have to sit on this $3k for 45 days and then be subject to one of those lousy chargebacks???? That's what would happen with EVERY other company. BUT NOT WITH JAG! The owner of the company guarantees the $4k out of his personal wallet. I keep my $3k even if there was a refund. THAT'S HUGE! Name me any other company anwhere whose CEO is willing to put his personal money where his mouth is. You just can't do it because there isn't another company that does it. One last thing, he has never had to issue that refund. That's how powerful Jag is for even the newest of newbies.
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#112 · Posted: 21 Jul 2007 01:06
Sorry Goldmills, I didn't mean to neglect you.
You got it exactly right. Why de-value a product when you don't need to. I mean with just the sales that I personally know about (and I certainly don't know everything) there was almost $200k in sales in the last 6 days. Think what that means system wide. When folks step up to the plate all day long, why cheapen a good thing.
As for craigslist. I understand what you are saying. But nothing seems to be slowing down. I told one of my brand new folks about the free ads at craigslist and he place a couple yesterday. He emailed me early this morning and said he already had 9 calls. So, I don't think the legs are going to lose support anytime soon. In fact when people hear about the big bucks even the salespeople are making I think it will create even more of a buzz on craigslist.
Keep in mind, you can also place paid ads on line and/or offline as well. One of my other folks does that in Florida and he had 30 salspeople working for him within about 2-2 1/2 weeks. When you can give somebody a $1k commission, you will find that you will have to beat those people off with a stick. That allows you to only hire the pros.
You're also right. You can do this for any program. The problem most folks have is that they don't have enough of a profit to play with that enables them to pay a healthy commission which attracts the pros. In otherwords, if you're only able to pay a hundred or tow commission, the salespeople are going to come and go the same day. There's not enough of an incentive there.
The other problem folks have is that they can't do the training. I mean it takes hours every week to keep these folks sharp and motivated in the right ways. Plus, the majority of site owners are not pros like Al. He is actually one of the best in the country and he is the one that personally trains your people. That's all he has ever done for 30 years is sales. In fact, that's how he made his millions.
Lastly, as I mentioned previously, I don't buy any leads. In my opinion no matter how much you pay for them or where you buy them, they are pretty close to worthless. I wuld never personally call a genealogy list. It's a waste of my time. Instead I teach my folks how to get their own leads that are tremendously higher in quality, don't cost a dime and you never have to worry about the dnc list. But then that's just me.
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#113 · Posted: 22 Jul 2007 12:45
Thanks a lot for the answers...
this is great info. And I am happy to see many sales for people in PMS.
enjoy!
Jeff
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#114 · Posted: 22 Jul 2007 17:25
Quoting: goldmills In my team in my travel business, I teach them this system exacly, how to hire people on commission and have them make calls for you.
Really?
What about voice blasts?
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#115 · Posted: 25 Jul 2007 00:39
As far as my personal business goes, I do not use voice blasts. The cost would be prohibitive. Plus, I feel there is nothing better than the human touch: a personal call. You see, if I have 6000-8000 calls going out per day via my salespeople and they don't cost me a dime unless I make $3000, that's a whole lot better than paying a consistent $$$ per thousand on voice blasts whether I make a sale or not.
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#116 · Posted: 25 Jul 2007 09:16 · Edited by: luvtravel
Quoting: Denya Bayne As far as my personal business goes, I do not use voice blasts. The cost would be prohibitive. Plus, I feel there is nothing better than the human touch: a personal call. You see, if I have 6000-8000 calls going out per day via my salespeople and they don't cost me a dime unless I make $3000, that's a whole lot better than paying a consistent $$$ per thousand on voice blasts whether I make a sale or not.
Hi Denya, are the "salespeople" that are commission only, did you hire them or are they available thru the PSystem? And do these salespeople call out and close for you or do the prospects have to call them first?
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#117 · Posted: 25 Jul 2007 12:00
No, the salespeople do all the work. They originate the call and close the sale. The goods ones even get there own leads. We show them how to get as many as they want for free. They are certainly higher quality than ANY purchased leads and they are already qualified. Plus, it can only take them less than an hour to get about 200 leads for that day.
They would much rather spend an hour getting their own leads and then make calls for 7 hours than calling 8 hours on poorer quality leads. And, like I said, it doesn't cost either of us a dime for the leads.
Yes, we bring them on board. It takes me about 10 minutes of my time in the hiring process. After that I simply turn them over to the company training. That's the beauty of all this. I don't have to train them or keep them pumped. The company does that for me and that also doesn't cost me a dime.
Getting the people is easy. I place free ads online. I had 10 people call yesterday and want the job.
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#118 · Posted: 26 Jul 2007 02:39
Hi again Jeff and Terri,
I believe you folks are both involved in Coastal. I assume that since you have not contacted me or others on the forum that are involved in Jag, that you are just 'working' the forums. That's fine. It's a great way to get exposure. We on the other hand, don't 'work' the forums. This is the only one we contribute to because we feel it will help supply people that are looking for info on the Jag system.
At some point everybody gets to a point where they jump off the fence and get involved in something that has proven itself to be the number one opportunity in the industry. Jag is the system that everybody is trying to copy. Why do you think so many systems now promote 'call centers'. One of the big differences is that with Jag it doesn't cost you a dime. While other systems are trying to copy jag, jag is growing leaps and bounds. If those systems were ever to catch-up, they will still be ten steps behind. Why? Because Jag is always evolving. We are the cutting edge.
So respectfully, my question to both of you is: If I could show you a way to put an extra $10k on your kitchen table in the next 30 days risk free as well as add 5-10 people to your existing downline, would that be worth 15 minutes of your time?
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#119 · Posted: 26 Jul 2007 07:55 · Edited by: luvtravel
Quoting: Denya Bayne So respectfully, my question to both of you is: If I could show you a way to put an extra $10k on your kitchen table in the next 30 days risk free as well as add 5-10 people to your existing downline, would that be worth 15 minutes of your time?
LOL, funny I was about to ask you the same thing,
how about you join CV with my team IF I join Jag on your team??
What a deal .... A WIN WIN I would say BECAUSE if Jag does what it's supposed to than we would have a winning combination and we would get so rich heck we would not have to work ever .... 
As to my " working the forums" and you "weren't" ahhhh wrong answer my dear, you started "working the forum" go back and read your posts, I was asking valid questions about your product to see if it was a fit with promoting the product that I enjoy promoting as it not only brings joy in people's lives but it increases their wallet.
So my "agenda" was simply to see if the system you spoke of was something to assist me and my team as opposed to just selling yet another program.... (see my posts and ques.)
Personally I am looking for folks who can speak with people who are requesting information about our product, right now I have so many people to call back I am looking for someone to assist with all the calls.
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#120 · Posted: 26 Jul 2007 11:01
Hi Terri,
I apologize if you misunderstood my comments about 'working the forums'. I agree with your efforts. It's a good way to get exposure. I just meant that I only post here to give my experiences with Jag.
I understand what you mean about the win/win. However, I am focused on what I believe to be the best ongoing, growing and evolving business in the industry. Jag stands at the leading edge of where this industry will be in the next 6 months. There is more money being made here than anywhere else. And, that isn't just for the big hitters. Even the newbie can make big money here without ever having to learn a whole lot. We obviously hope that they dig in and work their business, but with the $10 side of Jag, the truth is that the salespeople do the overwhelming majority of the work.
As for needing people to help in your call backs, I thought you had an experienced call center that you said did all of that for you. If you need help, Jag is the place to be. Your salesmen get trained on how to promote this industry properly, sell your jag system for a $3k overall profit and promote your other businesses as well. You may want to take a serious look.
Talk to you soon.
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