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jlDunn
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#81 · Posted: 5 Feb 2007 16:53
Hi Joe,
I am a member of Coastal and don't understand a lot of what you said. And to answer your question to the best of my knowledge -
1. What is on sale here - well of course the product (wholesale vacations) and second - the business. I am a Coastal Synergy Group member and could tell you alot more about the group and it's support, training, marketing, and business end of things then I could about the product.
That is because when we look at our market, we have 2 of them - travellers (Wholesale travel packages) and people looking to make money (Home Base Business Opportunity).
I am not sure about the systems and all but that is how I see it.
2. As for the levels - there are only 3 - Level 1, Level 2, and Level 3.....and a combination of them......
But if you are looking at the business level, then there are only 3 levels 1, 2, & 3 because you can only market what you invested.
Example - If you came in at level 2 then you invested in the L1 & L2 combo package so you could sell both.
That is how I see it, and that is how I like to put it to prospects - if you want to learn more about the differences between groups then you are going to get the business mumble jumble between groups.....that is how they market themselves over another.
Hope that helps, if you want more info you can email me:
[email protected]
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malibumentor
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#82 · Posted: 6 Feb 2007 01:28
Coastal, Jaguar - 1-ups and 2-ups, pay out on 1 level.
they are what is called unilevel compensation plans.
What this means is that once you pass up your qualifying sale(s) you start building an organization of your own who will pass up sales to you... at whatever level your qualification qualifies you for.
Confused yet?
I know I am.
I know I make money doing this though.
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Denya Bayne
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#83 · Posted: 7 Feb 2007 01:02
Confused YET??? I started out confused. So many different business models. So many different compensation plans. It is hard sometimes to work through all of that.
One way I used to work my way through all of that was simple. Every site I looked at I separated it's contents into 2 parts. One part I could care less about. The other part was exactly what I was looking for. To me, I wanted hope, not hype. The way I see it is that you can't spend hype. But hope, now that's something I can work with.
That was it for me. I just wanted the facts. Show me some real testimonies and explain the program in layman's terms. Give me the bottom line. That's how I ended up where I am. Hope that helps.
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traveler
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#84 · Posted: 16 Feb 2007 09:59
Great point there about hope! Never thought of it that way, but you are right! For me, a good program is something I think I can get passionate about and then apply my own level of motivation, attitude, etc.
Me, I sort of like a bit of sizzle/hype if I think I can win with it!
Live well!
Press on and prosper! 
jgd
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malibumentor
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#85 · Posted: 16 Feb 2007 12:41
Truth is - And I am on THIN ICE here- a great many people will BUY HOPE... with no real committment to doing the work and learning that success in this game requires.
I have sold a lot of high-ticket programs to people who weren't willing to be consistent in:
-learning more about marketing every day
-consistently working on their own marketing every day
I know this, because they would be calling me more often with questions about how to do this and that, SEO, PPC, Website design, Copywriting Critiques, etc..
SO- to be honest, YOU (anybody out there) can succeed BRILLIANTLY in this industry... but its not about the opportrunity, or the product or even the price point (if you take the time to study the writing of Dan Kennedy this price point stuff will get clear), its about YOU, and the value YOU assign to yourself.
When its comes down to it, Jaguar is worth the price because:
A) we say it is.
B) Because my personal experience with the training is that its what allowed me to become successful in this industry - coming from a place of NO EXPERIENCE in Network Marketing.
I'm saying right HERE - don't bother joining any Direct Sales program if you don't have the discipline to work on marketing and improving yourself every day.... because while you might get lucky and make a sale once in a while, chances are you won't... and thats the truth.
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Denya Bayne
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#86 · Posted: 16 Feb 2007 17:44
Craaaaaaack!!! You didn't just step in it, you fell all the way through it. But, evn though you got all wet, you're still right.
Any folks that get involved in a business, have to treat it that way no matter how much it costs. I think you can be profitable in a passive manner, but unfortunately, lots of people want to be wildly successful without having to do anything.
I wish it worked that way, but it doesn't. We all live in the real world. Life happens. Whatever you decide to get involved with, make the commitment to get involved in the training. Get your hands dirty. Learn a little something here and there.
A definite fact in this business is that a little education goes a long ways. Just think about what could happen if you were actually even more committed to your own success!!!
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malibumentor
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#87 · Posted: 23 Feb 2007 01:02
Personal Downline Builders is a new 1-up which sells
for $1000.oo. Qualified resellers make $500 on each
sale.
There is a bonus for people who get in before the launch.
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malibumentor
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#88 · Posted: 23 Feb 2007 12:31 · Edited by: malibumentor
Professionals will follow up with EVERY LEAD you
generate (not purchased leads, sorry. But you can
buy traffic to a lead capture page, which is sort
of similar to buying leads), answer questions and
CLOSE that PROSPECT on your business (I'll be using
this for Liberty League Int.), and upsell that
person on buying PDB.
Its about the most innovative program I have yet
seen. Nobody else has a competing product. With
PDB you can have SOMEBODY ELSE make all the phone
calls to people who are interested in:
-Melaleuca, Xango, Isagenix, Emerald Passport,
Coastal Vacations, LLI, Herbalife, Quixtar,
etc...
With PDB you won't have do phone work ever. You can
concentrate on marketing or training your salesforce...
or whatever you are good at. Its about delegation.
It comes with the Jaguar Gold and Platinum system and
is available seperately. The release of this program is
creating a jump in Jaguar sales.
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jlDunn
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#89 · Posted: 2 Mar 2007 18:20
That's pretty cool....How does it work for your own personal business Like cv?
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malibumentor
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#90 · Posted: 2 Mar 2007 19:13
PDB staff call all your new leads that come in and answer their questions. They are trained to close your sales as well - so they do have the objective of getting the prospect into at least one of your programs - without pressure of course.
Its not a presentation or invitation call however. Obviously this won't work with the common tactic of concealing which business op you are promoting until after you have "qualified"the prospect. The prospect goes through one of the PDB lead capture forms and is exposed to enough information about your bizops that he or she requests a call.
For Veretekk leads they will be called re: Veretekk and then walked through PDB, Jag (if you have it) and your primary bizop benfits - assuming they are receptive.
It may seem like its more complicated than capturing a lead with a generic "beach and cars lifestyle" page, calling and qualifying, and THEN sharing what business you are in... but the trend is towards people wanting to know a lot about the business model before they agree to have a conversation... so if you were to promot coastal with PDB you would want to make sure your leads had some quality information about the Coastal bizop and compensation plan...
There's more to it obviously from the "closer" side of it - theres a very advanced system that moves the leads around very quickly so the PDB closer can call them and get them back to the client... but from the PDB cliend side you get reports and notifications of what the status of the lead is... and if the prospect is real serious he or she will probably just pick up the phone and call you at that point (especially with a higher-ticket program like Coastal).
Hope this explanation clarifes more than confuses.
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barefootmentor
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#91 · Posted: 5 May 2007 08:48
I've learned that if you treat your business like a business not a hobby and run it like any successful business you will too be successful. If you research other successful businesses you will find that they don't teach duplication. Like we see in the MLM world.
Think about it if everyone is doing the same thing (duplicating) we would all be going after the same people especially online. Everyone has to find their own little niche and work their business that way.
I don't mean to be preaching the the choir here, but this is exactly what I've been teaching for years now. Create your own image, develop your own target market and delegate when you can.
You may be thinking how can I delegate when I'm just getting started? With the power of the internet and advanced software systems it's not only possible but it just make good business sense.
With the Barefoot Marketing System the software and technologies behind it make this all possible... Yes I'm talking about you the little guy delegate!
You forward the prospects to your sales staff. They call your prospect, invite them to look at your business, and make the followup call to answer questions and close the prospect on joining your business.
You get an email or phone call notifying you of your new downline member.
Because you now have salespeople making your calls you decide to build multiple streams of income. A couple of your income streams should give you right now cash and in large amounts.
The phone rings and its one of your salespeople, you like this person beause she makes you a lot of money, she's calling to say she just closed a sale for you and your profit is $2000.
Your other income streams produce that LONG TERM RESIDUAL INCOME, you know the kind that just keeps on giving month after month?
Next, your system automatically sends your new downline member instructions to plug into your company training and system and the live training system where you have experts training your people.
You also have a toll free number or live online assistance your people can get in touch with you for support and you have a support staff to handle all that.
Thats how it works when you delegate and work with systems.
Here's the Outline
CEO...YOU
Sales Staff...Delegated
Training Staff...Delegated
Customer Service...Delegated
Lead Generation...45-60 minutes a day 4-5 days a week
All that means is, your business works all the time. Real Humans are working for you. They all work on commission. You have no payroll.
I know what you're thinking..Man if it only worked like that FOR REAL.I know I just described a dream system. If it could only work like that
Here's the good news..it does...it can...You can work exactly like that
My Barefoot Marketing System is not a hobby. It feels like it sometimes but there is a catch.
There is a learning curve.
We don't promote something for nothing. We encourage you to learn how to use lead generation systems. We don't believe in buying or selling leads.
If you're really ready to learn business...If you're ready to stop the games and learn internet marketing...If you're ready to make money
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Denya Bayne
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#92 · Posted: 9 May 2007 02:32
Yes Barefoot, it does sound unreal. But I too know that it works. What I find is that you can only achieve what you believe. If you think something is too good to be true, then for you, it probably will be. If you feel something is too dificult to tackle, then for you it probably will be.
My point is, that in the area of internet marketing, you need to keep an open mind. Certain things involved in being successful are a moving target. Things change. Things evolve. You need to be proactive and be able to roll with the punches. We make 5 figures per month, but we never assume that next month will be the same. The only way that our business will not work for us next month is if we don't work the business next month.
So, don't worry about thinking outside the box. Burn that lousy box so you never, ever get stuck inside it. As for marketing on the internet, that's some of the best advice I can give. Don't worry about getting every little thing just perfect before you jump off the fence. Things will never be perfect. Things will always change. There's absolutely no reason why you can't be making money while you're in the middle of the learning curve. Climb to the top of the fence today, don't look down and jump! I don't care if it's on the right or left side of the fence, just jump. You will never make a dime sitting on the fence.
You know that old saying "It's better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all"? Well, business is the same. You're either movin' ahead or you're goin' broke. There's no such thing as standing still. Make a decision. Believe in it so you can achieve it and then get on with it.
Yes, Barefoot, delegation is a proven business model. There is not a single successful company in the world that doesn't delegate. If you don't believe you can handle a dedicated salesforce that doesn't cost you a dime until you see results, then you're right. But on the other hand, if you do believe that making money is something you can achieve then get on with it and let the good times roll.
Sorry folks. I didn't mean to write a novel. As you can tell, I am passionate about success and helping others achieve their goals. I'm also sorry for not sugar coating how things really are. I figure that's a waste of time. Plus you can find that type of flowery comments all over the place. I would rather spend time on the truthful, positive constructive side of things. Those are things we can all build on.
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#93 · Posted: 31 May 2007 10:10
Do you want to stay up on what is new with the Jaguar/ Predator Marketing System. I have been going to the weekly meetings and sharing the new stuff over on my "Barefoot's MLM training tips and tools" blog.
Hey you are on this forum to learn what is new with this system this is one place I share it all including Veretekk news. If you didn't know it, Jag Marketing system and Veretekk are meshed together pretty tight they both work hand in hand. Learn more about these 2 awesome marketing systems visit the blog OK. It's easy to find just do a google search on my name Cindy McAsey + Barefoot MLM Tools.
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luvtravel
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#94 · Posted: 9 Jul 2007 09:12
Quoting: Vishal P. Rao Please do not resort to any tactics for making your topics rank higher in search engines. This forum already ranks well for popular search terms and I hence there is no need (and I do not encourage too) of making search terms bold. Search engines pay more attention to the amount of activity on a particular thread. If there's lot of activity, then the content must be worth checking and hence better ranking. So instead, post worthwhile content, that generates lot of participation.
Hmm interesting, I did not know that putting search terms in bold on a forum thread was a tactic to rate higher.
Thanks!
Terri
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#95 · Posted: 9 Jul 2007 09:39
Quoting: malibumentor Predator and Coastal Stink!
I don't know about Predator BUT I do know about Coastal !
And Coastal is one of the best vacation packages one can buy...why and how do I know this? Because I am a Travel agent with over 12 years experience in the travel industry.
I came to this thread to read more about Predator to use for my Coastal vacations business.
Thanks
Terri
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#96 · Posted: 9 Jul 2007 21:44
FYI, thats a quote from a negative marketing ad I saw a while
back. I promote Predator, and it actually has no odor whatsoever.
In fact, I have yet to smell any odor from any program whatsoever.
These days, a lot of folks are promoting Jaguar Marketing System,
the sister site to the Predator Marketing System... and its a
little more develloped in my opinion.
I'm not a hypey marketer, or at least try not to be, so I never
make income claims or sales projections. Truth is, the more
qualified people who look at your business, the more money
you will make...
Jaguar Marketing System is really kind of revolutionizing the
homebiz industry right now... with the 10k/week program.
We've gone back to basics. We are putting people on the phone
to drive traffic to the websites. There is nothing like human
contact to make a direct selling program work...
YET... and here's the RUB... its not the system owners who are
making the phone calls. Jaguar CEO Alan Turnquist has actually
turned the industry on its ear by putting in place a system where
we hire (for strict commission) professional, experienced sales
people to make 100s if not 1000s of calls per week.
The more calls get made on your behalf (by your sales force), the
more money you make. Pure and simple.
Its the crazy leverage of the PAYPLAN that makes this work... and
the FACT that Al has 25 years of experience training and motivating
salespeople. He's the man for the job and when you own a
JAG system you have him training your salesforce in the art and
science of CLOSING those big ticket sales.
Truth Is- a lot of these call-centers are staffed by $10,oo per hour
telemarketers, not trained closers making $1000.oo per sale, like
my sales team do.
Thats right. Every time one of these sales pros makes a Platinum
system sale, s/he gets a cool $1000.oo check in the mail,
straightaway.
Its the kind of commission sales pros drool over. We have what
must be one of the most amazing sales J.O.B.S. in north America
right here.
Everybody wins. The sales pros get $1000.oo for their skill,
the qualified Platinum system owner pockets a COOL $2000.oo
profit, and the Jag company makes $995.oo on the sale.
Now, some folks reading this may be confused... because
Platinum systemm sales pay out $3000.oo commissions.
When those sales are generated by an independent account
Exec (thats what we call these talented people), the system
owner takes $1000.oo out of that $3000.oo and pays the
person who generated the sale.
The account Execs are NOT system owners, BTW... but those
who make good with their skills soon see the value in owning
their own systems and buildng their own sales force...
And who do they BUY their systems from? Why, the person
who hired them in the first place.
As I said, its a WIN-WIN arrangement, all around
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#97 · Posted: 11 Jul 2007 05:50
Yes, he copied what the WCYS Coastal Call Center was the first to pioneer in Feb 2005.
But has made smart modifications.
Leverage is the key.
Working less to make more... hiring staff to do the work and you live the way you want.
Smart stuff for sure, people you can hire people with Craigslist, and simply put them to work for you just placing ads.
I hire all my staff from Craigslist.org.
But you can pay a bunch to learn how to do it with the marketing systems out there too.
Jeff
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#98 · Posted: 11 Jul 2007 09:37
malibumentor
So if I want the sales team to sell Coastal vacations for me how can they sell both, the Jaguar system and Coastal?
Or am I misunderstanding something here?
Also, if the sales people own a system themselves than isn't that a conflict of interest? Why would they sell the system for me and not themselves?
Terri
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Denya Bayne
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#99 · Posted: 17 Jul 2007 01:19
Hi Terri,
I know exactly what malibu is talking about. He is correct. We have a large commissioned sales team as well. You have 2 questions. I will answer the second one first.
If one of your salespeople decides to become a site owner, then he is selling for himself at that point, not you. He can then build his own sales team. The beauty of that, is that after you have paid him a few thousand in commission, he then realizes the big money is in being a site owner. So he ends up giving you back $4,000 of the commission money you paid him. Plus, he then still owes you his first sale which represents another $3,000 profit in your pocket. (Jag is a 1 up system).
That is exactly why we run free craigslist ads all the time. We continually add and replace our salespeople. Just to give you an idea of how many people want this sales job, here are some personal numbers that we experienced our very first week of working the $10k per week program. We placed our ads on a Saturday evening and again on Sunday. By Tuesday we had 40 people wanting the job. Since we are only looking fro pros, we hired 9 of those 40. We sent them to the Wed orientation that Al Turnquist hosts and then to the Thurs and Fri training meeting that Al hosts. Friday we had 9 people pounding the plastic for us all day long.
What do you think is going to happen to your sales if you have 10 people making 200 calls each per day on your behalf. Those folks are going to blow your bank account right out of the water. This is so powerful we even decided to dedicate an entire site just to the $10k week program within the Jag System. When we tested the site, we just did it with emails. We sent out 200 emails and within 2 hours we made $k in sales. That's how powerful the $10k scenario can be.
Now for your first question. Many people jump on board Jag as a secondary business that they want to use to help promote their primary business. However, the majority of folks in this situation usually end up making Jag their primary business because there are so many sales going on. Here again I'll give you some numbers. With just the sales that I personally know about (and I certainly don't know everything) there has been about $500k changing hands with Jag in just the last 30 days alone.
Now, how does that help your secondary business? When your salespeople are promoting Jag, they are also mentioning the other things you are involved in and stressing the advantage of multiple streams of income. That way, the prospect is aware that you are a professional and that if Jag does not suit them for some reason, then the salesman can make trhe switch to your other business.
$10k works great for building your Jag business, but is also an excellent tool for building your other downlines as well. I hope that info clarifies things a bit.
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#100 · Posted: 17 Jul 2007 01:57
Okay. I have to say something here and hopefully I don't come accross as bashing or rude but the word PREDATOR scares me.
I picture a big bad shark chasing me and wanting to eat me like in the movie Jaws. Or a cute little veloceraptor stalking me and wanting to slice me in half.
I see blood on these predators' flesh-stained fangs.
Why would anybody want to identify themselves with that kind of image, especially if you are looking for leads? Do your leads know the name of the marketing system you are using in order to find them? Do they know they have become your prey and they are being stalked by you?
This predator marketing system may or may not work, I don't know. But personally I wouldn't want to associate my business to the image of a PREDATOR. There are other lead generating systems out there that probably do exactly the same things Predator does.
To Your Success!
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