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#41 · Posted: 13 Dec 2006 13:16
The Predator Marketing System is undoubtedly a very powerful way to create an online income. Cashflow from system sales can be great if effective marketing is done. However, long term financial freedom will be attained by using the system to develop multiple streams of income.
Most people who sign up for the Predator Marketing System probably are visualizing themselves making money hand-over-fist with system sales... but this is actually only going to be a reality for those who learn the ins and outs of marketing the system effectively.
Te road to becoming a sophisticated internet marketer can be filled with frustration or it can be an enjoyable journey. Training in effective techniques is essential. Of added, and in my case, essential, benefit is the engaging in a dialog with a more advanced marketer.
An advanced marketer as a guide is a phenomenal resource. It took me many months of marketing online before I met somebody who could really show me how it was done... because my original sponsor was... in a word... unsophisticated about it.
Don't get me wrong, he was making money with his business... But the techniques he was using did not produce results for me. I have realized that many, many people who sign up under a sponsor who advises only the placing of ads... will not succeed.
Lets face it. Paid advertising, if done incorrectly, can be very costly when it produces no results. The nature of the internet as a medium for distributing information make it ideal for promoting Predator Marketing System through what is called Informational Marketing.
I advertise but I also do a lot of sophisticated Information Marketing because I understand this truth:
People Turn To The NET not for Advertsing, but to Acquire Information.
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#42 · Posted: 13 Dec 2006 13:17
Those of you who know me through phone conversations may be aware that I am what is sometimes referered to as a "true believer".
Dangerous, To say the least.
I actually believe all this manifesting your own reality, creating wealth and abundance throughg personal development, etc.
But I know, You just want to make a crapload of money with the business. Okay, You gotta start somewhere.
Let me put it this way: say you are marketing something like Predator Marketing System
and your intention is to make a lot of money but you have a mindset that doesn't support continued skill development and courage in the face of adversity.
What will happen? You get discouraged (ie. your courage fails) and you don't stick with it long enough to get what you came for:
Wealth, prosperity, abundance, financial freedom, time freedon, freedom from working for the man, freedom to travel, freedom to pursue your hobbies, etc..
Success with Predator Marketing System, or any internet network marketing indeavor, requires that we (I, you, anybody) stay in the game long enough to bear fruit. This is a craft which takes time to master.
As you become a journeyman ineternet marketer you will begin to buidl a circle of influence an accumulate traffic to your Predator Marketing System website and traffic, especially carefully targeted traffic, produces sales.
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#43 · Posted: 13 Dec 2006 13:18 · Edited by: malibumentor
Personal Integrity|Predator Marketing System
Content Copyright Loren Woirhaye 2006
What is Personal Integrity?
Personal Integrity means you are good for your word. This is a basic concept to running a business. Having Integrity means that you do what you say you are going to do.
It doesn't mean that we never mess up. Its okay for individuals with Personal Integrity to make mistakes. But rather than hiding, telling lies, or running away, those with Personal Integrity make it clear that they are having a challenge. They give their word that they will make it right.
This is very important stuff, especially with all this internet stuff like Predator Marketing System. Its important because we can go about marketing these opportunities with hogwash like:
Get rich doing nothing
Work only 9 minutes a week,etc...
or we can honestly share our experiences.
Frankly I have blown a few big sales of Jaguar Marketing System because I told the truth to the person asking the questions. Being truthful is having Personal Integrity.
If you want people to respect you on the internet you must conduct yourself with Integrity. This doesn't mean that you cannot express controversial opinions or that you have to roll over to make people like you (they won't, by the way, if you roll over).
What this meand is that you do the best you can to express truth as it is in the moment. The truth that I am personally experiencing at this monent is that Internet marketing is a skill-based process that takes consistent effort to create results.
In my experience, creating success with Predator Marketing System entails:
Reading: so I understand marketing better and the technical apparatus of delivering my message via the internet.
Writing: so I can communicate what I have learned to the people who are aware of me as a marketer.
Speaking: to people who call me and ask questions about Predator Marketing System or other things I know something about. (I prefer calls to email, by the way. My number is 341.359.8494)
Listening: to other people so I can understand people and marketing better.
Thinking: about how to market more effectively, how to educate people more effectively about the business and marketing, and moreover - How I can do all these things with Personal Integrity.
Lets face it - having Integrity around money can be challenging when you are broke. But in business, it is vitally important to act and speak with integrity around money, because the exchange of goods for money is what drives business.
If a person doesn't have integrity around money, do they deserve success?
I don't think so. And if I find that somebody I have entered in business with does not have Personal Integrity around money, I am not inclined to aid them or do business with them in the future.
This comes down to spiritual values as much as anything. Since it is important to me to keep my business clean, I insist on Integrity in my dealings.
The trainers I have studied with have mostly made a big issue of Personal Integrity and the reason is this: in business we are seeking to build long-term relationships. This entails establishing a rapport based on mutual respect and trusth. Since I am in this business not to scam people but to educate them, I seek people with whom I can develop a long-term relationship based upon Trust and Integrity.
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#44 · Posted: 13 Dec 2006 13:19
Using Veretekk With Predator Marketing System
The essential thing to understand about Veretekk is that it has four components. It generates leads, it does email marketing and list building, it incorporates training, and, perhaps most importantly, it is a very powerful tool for Search Engine Optimization and content-driven marketing.
Most people who market Predator Marketing System will fail to comprehend the real power of VERETEKK and will not build a massively successful business with The Predator Marketing System.
This is probably due to wishful thinking.
Everybody in the online marketing world seems to be caught up in jumping from one "easy" system to another. If this didn't require Skill Development , success online would be accessible for anyone.
As it is, online marketing six-figure incomes are available only to those who have a better comprehension of what marketing online really entails. While the Veretekk and Predator Marketing System trainings endeavor to teach people marketing, much of it is concerned with the technical aspects of marketing.
This IS important. But the technical side of it is by no means everything. There comes into play a much more individual side. We cannot reasonaly expect the technology to do it all for us...
EVEN....
When we have mastered the technical side of it.
It is still essential to work at the individual side of it, the part which you can only do for yourself, the part that differentiates from the others and attracts like-minded people.
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#45 · Posted: 13 Dec 2006 13:21
I have been reflecting on the best ways to help the people I sponsor to be successful with Predator Marketing System. Even though I have a dandy autoreponder series, etc. which shares some information, I have found the best method is Socratic in nature, ie. dialogue.
My major goal with new marketers is to get them actually marketing and then answer their questions and steer them in the right direction to make what they are laready doing more effective.
What is Effective Marketing?
Effective marketing is reaching your potential customer with a compelling message and in the case of the internet, provoking a response.
How To Be a More Effective Marketer
With Predator Marketing System or any other similar thing out there the secret to more effective marketing is not to be learned by Reading about it but by Doing It and watching the response. Even with the Veretekk system there is much more to marketing Predator than meets the eye. Observe that the better marketers are consistently branding themselves.
Branding Yourself
can be a daunting challenge when first starting out as an internet marketer, but it doesn't need to be. I have found a particular talent on mine is to enter into a dialouge with the people I am assisting and help them see, clearly, a path to success here.
The paradox is that it is not by promoting the system, but by promoting ourselves that we attain success. I have done quite well using the methods I teach, but I stress emphatically that one needs to find an individual path for success in internet marketing.
What works for me may not work for you. I have no interest in having people try to become copies of me, I want them to be themselves... because that is what works for me.
Look at my website : you will see a scruffy looking fellow wearing old clothing, not a spiffy suit. I am doing something I enjoy, not posing with a car, a blond, a boat , or a house. Why is this?
Those marketing tactic leave me cold, personally, so I approach it in a very different, individual way. I have no problem attracting business this way
Why?
Perhaps because it it different...
Perhaps because its honest...
Perhaps because its just really Me.
Something to reflect on.
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#46 · Posted: 14 Dec 2006 13:24
I am wondering why you feel the need to just trash another program? Is it because you have to so justify your $4,000.00 price tag?
PIF4P has just as great a training and maybe even better than MOM, since I am seeing very little evidence of integrety from it's organization. I'll try to not assume that everyone offering Preditor or MOM, will go so low as to trash the other guy.
The following are the facts for the readers:
PIF4P has been public since May of 2006
PIF4P is at the 3,114 ranking, in six months time on Alexa
PIF4P has over 80,000 new people signed into the system in 6 months.
255 million people are looking into PIF4P world wide every month
(With stats like that, do you think these guys know what they are doing or what? I think most people get on the net looking for that kind of knowlege every day. Folks, here it is and IT'S FREE!)
*PIF4P AFFILIATES are currently paying out over $1 million every month as a direct result of the marketing. Now, taking into account the statistics that I gave earlier of 95-98% failure rates in this industry, simply because people get into a business with the dream of making alot of money easy and fast, (perpetuated by slimmy marketers) can't or won't put in the time and effort it takes, then quit. If let's say 2.5% of the 80,000 people in the PIF4P system are making all the money, that's $500.00 per month distributed equally.
You know some are making considerably more than others because this is only 6 months into it. That's RESIDUAL INCOME! Residual income is mailbox money every single month, whether you continue working or not. One must take into account, that average income is in 6 months time, and the training is very comprehensive. It takes alot of time to get the different wheels spinning as I am sure the same holds true with any good business marketing system. If I purchase your Preditor system, as a new marketer, I won't be making money for at least 3-6 month unless I am lucky. Some people can get into any program and get lucky right away or sign up a large downline, that trusts them. Then the proof will come out when it comes time to train those people to be just as successful, just as fast.
Side Note: When you see an overnight success in a company, you have to dig a bit and you will probaly find that person swung over a large downline. Very slimmy, especially if they are telling everyone they can do the same thing, without divulging the truth as to how they got there.
The PIF4Ps training program works, and you can trash all the affiliates you want to, but the fact remains that the program works, just like I'm sure your's does.
These people signing into PIF4Ps are building a MLM business and the training is designed to teach people how to do that without getting ripped off! People that just started the training in July are putting in 20-30 new reps into their downline every month. By the way, that is where the big money is being made.
The big differences are that Preditor costs 4K and PIF4Ps cost is $0, you are direct marketing for a one time 1K-3K where as the people in PIF4Ps are building residual income, (the income people get into this industry to learn how to make in whatever business they want.)
All things being equal with the training, and you haven't provided any evidence to the contrary, the big difference is, people can invest $4,000.00 in Preditor and work very hard making 1K-3K in commissions. Let's say they sell 8-10 each month, and that is very generous for the new person, (vitualy impossible for the average, and the stats will prove that to hold true) that's $8-10,000 per month. They will have to do that same work month in and month out.
With PIF4Ps that same person invests $0 dollars and starts building the residual income with the affiliates if they choose, and their primary company. In one years time, that person can, with the same efforts the person marketing Preditor puts in, be making $8-10,000.00 per month, month in and month out, take a month vacation and come back to virtually the same income with the check in the mailbox. Those are bare minimum figures.
THAT'S THE DIFFERANCE!!!
*First 6 months.
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#47 · Posted: 14 Dec 2006 14:52 · Edited by: Homebizmom
I'm sorry for the misspellings. I got kicked off my internet before I could make the edits. I should have checked it before I posted it.
I do hope this information helps someone get the correct view of PIF4Ps.
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#48 · Posted: 15 Dec 2006 21:02 · Edited by: malibumentor
Warning: This Thread Has Been Hijacked By A PayItForward4Profits Rep!
What does this have to do with the Jaguar Marketing System really?
Oh, I know. You want to recruit people who are looking for at direct sales as a serious cashflow solution into YOUR MLM downline!
There are threads about PIF4P, actually. There are threads for people who are looking to start a business with no capital.
Hold Forth HomeBizMom! you seem convinced this quarrel is one you can win and the key to building your business!
Frankly I am embarrassed for you and by my own reactivity here. I know better BUT! I was involved with the program you are promoting and know firsthand about the programs they advocate. As the misinformation about free leads and income guarrantees mounted up I realized that I did not wish to lead people into PIF4P, because the leaders made promises they had (apparently) no plan to keep.
Danger ZONE! This Thread has been Hijacked
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#49 · Posted: 15 Dec 2006 21:43
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Jaguar Marketing System is the new alternate skin for Predator Marketing System, a proven technology for promoting multiple streams of income on the internet.
Jaguar Marketing System is a serious solution for those who are tired of phone prospecting full-time or who don't want to be salespeople. Professional sales closers follow up and close all "system sales" for the Jaguar Marketing System owners and the new Extended Closingh Program will be launchd soon.
The Extended Closing Program allows every Jaguar System Site owners to benefit from have professionals close sales in another program as wll.
The service will be avalibale seperately for $1000 per year, but for Jaguar-MS owners its included in the $100 annual renewal fee.
Mentors on A Mission, the company behind Jaguar-MS, has a history of delivering high-quality proprietary training in how to become financially free with a home business. In an industry where many companies make promises and cannto deliver, Mentors On A Mission consistently OVERdelivers, time and time again.
Mentors on A Mission stunned the automated home biz world with the rollout of Predator Marketing System. 2 months later, Mentors on a Mission introduced Jaguar Marketing System, the same system with a differrent "skin".
Mentors on a Mission is clearly on a roll and has the clear intention of remaining the leader in automated direct selling for a long time to come. The pattern of introducing groundbreaking new programs and services will no doubt continue - Mentors on A Mission is at the technical forefront of Cashflow Generation.
The stated Mission of MOM is "To put 10,000 people on the enlightened path to financial freedom," and that passion is contagious.
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#50 · Posted: 16 Dec 2006 11:24
I have problems connecting to the JaguarMarketingSystem server today, is it only me or....?
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#51 · Posted: 16 Dec 2006 13:16
Seems to be up now.
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#52 · Posted: 16 Dec 2006 14:35
Quoting: malibumentor I do my best to market with honesty and little hype. Lets admit though, a little hype is fun and exciting, as starting a new adventure should be. I don't seek the timid, the fearful... I seek those who recognize that the adventure is worth the risk, and that getting mentally equipped for triumph is essential.
Hello malibumentor, this is a fantastic forum for people like me who have searched the web over, trying to find a good worthy program to work from home. I have done due diligence trying to make sure that I don't get ripped off and quite frankly, a website with a lot of hype really turns me off, or at least puts up so many caution flags that I find myself not being able to look at what they're selling very objectively. I am not an experienced internet marketer compared to you, although I've manged to build an email list of about 350 in about 6 months writing a newsletter. I was dedicated to it and ate and slept it for that 6 months before I could finally convince someone that I had a product worth dishing out 20 bucks a month for. I'm 54 years old now, I realize that quiting that business some 15 years ago was a grave mistake. I lost the vision and the desire to succeed at the time due to marital problems I was having. My point is that I did it once and I know I can do it again with the right guidance. Lately, I've been looking at Predator, 1step system, and Coastal Synergy Group as possible programs to join. If I joined Predator, do you have the time to help me in my endeavor to succeed and excel in the business? I have time to work it. I have embraced the philosophy lately to "work smarter not harder". Is that a realistic approach? Thanks,
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#53 · Posted: 17 Dec 2006 01:06
Hey UncleLarry,
yeah definitely. This type of business makes sense for me and seems like it does for you as well.
One of the advantages of working with Jaguar-MS is that I don't spend much time calling leads anymore (ie. working around other people's schedules and Time Zones- AAAGGGH!). This allows me to spend my working time learning and testing marketing stuff and assisting people I sponsor. I also do consulting and coaching.
So the answer is yes... I have plenty of time to work with new PAMS people and get them started right away on developing their own unique Marketing and Branding approach based on their own values and experiences in life.
Give me a call sometime. 310.359.8494
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#54 · Posted: 21 Dec 2006 13:06 · Edited by: malibumentor
This forum thread just hit the number one position on Google for the search -predator marketing system- ... illustrating the influence forums have with Search Engines.
We may see a flurry of posting here as a result.
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#55 · Posted: 21 Dec 2006 17:20 · Edited by: malibumentor
Mentors on A Mission Releases WhyStartAndNeverQuitAHomeBusiness Flash presenation.
The developers at MOM never stop working to make the jaguar-ms marketing system the most comprehensive training and marketing platform available today for success with network marketing and direct sales on the interenet.
Its true that these types of businesses can be built by calling leads but its also become clear that a new model of business has arrived - exemplified by The JAGUAR-MS system.
The new why video presentation makes a compelling case for anybody who wants to be financially free to start a home business, and JAGUAR-MS is clearly a good choice (and to my eye the front runner in the "we close the sales for you" industry right now).
"WhyStart" explains some of the tax advantages of having a home business, even an unprofitable one. The bottom line? You can't afford NOT to have your own home business.
Okay, the good part is that Mentors on A Mission has made it as straightforward as possible for anybody who is truly serious about becoming financially free.
Gone are the days when you had to go to recruiting meetings to build an organzation, or put on a tie 4 nights a week, etc...
Gone are the days when you would have to buy leads and work the phones to get successful in the industry.
Gone are the days when you had to chase your family and friends to build a NWM business.
NETWORK MARKETING has entered the 21st century and its a business model that the internet seems to have been made for. Prior to very recently however the systems in place just didn't take full advantage of the power of the internet... now they do with JAGUAR-MS... because the internet presents the business opportunity, the compensation plan, the products... and professional sales people follow up and make the sales.
It makes it truly possible for serious, and I do mean serious, people to live a life of freedom and ease by using the newest technology to build a viable, long-term business.
Why start video link is available below.
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#56 · Posted: 21 Dec 2006 17:32
Wow! It makes you wonder what's next. The way I see it, after getting the video stuff down, someone will come up with one better in 6 months or so, like holographic marketing. Do you think it's possible? It expands the mind and definitely keeps you thinking outside the box. Holographic, hmmmmm, maybe some day.
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#57 · Posted: 22 Dec 2006 02:43
By 2010 computers will match the power of the human brain. laready incredibly powerful computers are being made, smaller than this dot .
The virtual reality video games of today will like evolve into the apparatus of tomorow. Computers will recognize our habits and present information we want intuitively becasue the algorythms will be able to predict our actions and desires.
Sensors will track eye movements and subtle voice commands, maybe even subvocalizations captured by throat mics. Interaction over the interenet may eventually take on an intuitive quality that makes what we are doing today seem very unsophisticated.
Still- broadband is getting more and more widely distributed globally and this, more than any other factor, is what makes video marketing feasible on a grand scale. Video loads very quickly for those with high-speed connections so that is the determining factor.
The market wants video and has for quite some time. The technology is only now arriving. 12 months ago there were no free video servers, now there are over 250 and the number is growing. This is a major change at work, and those who learn to ride the trends will become wealthy if they so choose.
I anticipate the internet of 2026, barring cataclysmic breakdown of global infrastructure, will be very much like the internet of recent Sci-Fi films.... interactive gloves may be common in the next five years even.
I may not be so interested myself... I may decide to retire from internet business.
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#58 · Posted: 24 Dec 2006 15:26
The Jaguar-MS system is also known as Predator Marketing System.... adn the WhyStartANDNEverQuitAHomeBusiness System and the Mentors on a Mission training program.
The team at Mentors will be rolling out the Unprecedented extended closing program in January. Professionals will call and close sales in a business or opportunity deal of your choice. I will be using this to automate my Liberty League International business even more.
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#59 · Posted: 3 Jan 2007 00:13
As I read through the posts on this forum this evening, I was reminded of a quote that the founder of my primary business used to always say,
"Don't knock the competition they are just doing the best they can"
If everyone followed this quote we all would be better off. I have the opportunity to work with and train people who some would think are my direct competition... but they way I see it in the long run if you help enough other people get what they want in their business, you will in time accomplish what you want in your business.
In the last couple of weeks I've witnessed people cutting down another program to promote their program. Frankly I think most of the time this will do more damage than good. I just have to shake my head in disapointment and tell myself they just don't know any better yet, they still have important lessons to be learned.
To me in life there are no mistakes only lessons to be learned and those lesson's will be repeated in various forms until they are learned.
Most people will be drawn to others by the positive qualities they believe exist within themselves. In a similar way they will tend to be pushed away from those who reflect qualities they fear most in themselves.
I've seen very few marketing systems that don't have some good qualities, if we all could focus on the good qualities on what we are marketing and forget the bashing of other programs we all would be better off.
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#60 · Posted: 3 Jan 2007 01:39
Mistakes in business and life are part of the process. I have made more than a few in the Internet marketing field and I share my experiences openly and when something is bullsh$T I say so... which is my opinion.
I'm not willing to sugarcoat the internet MLM industry and smooth over every glaring weakness in these programs that enroll people in a compliance trance.
As a member of Mentors on A Mission and leader who constently brands yourself, I am surprised that you aren't appalled yourself.
The ONLY people who are likely to benefit from the "Internet Gold Rush" in a meaningful way are those who brand themselves... with their own voices and their own pictures... a practice some training programs conveniently fail to emphasize...
If the state of Network Marketing on the Net is to be elevated there needs to be accountability and dialog about the widespread manipulation of inexperienced, naive people, such as many who fell for the whole PAS game - and are misled to believe that they will easily be successful by promoting other people rather than themselves.
Not so much on this forum... but on others I have seen the approach I use raise the standard of dialog and disclosure considerably.
Ya know, Cindy... I call them like I see them. And we see them differently, clearly.
Guess I'm the bad guy today.
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