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megaonlinemoney
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#41 · Posted: 27 Aug 2008 10:46
TJamMoneyMan: r a sponsor numbered in the low 2,000 2 months ago. I am now getting members in the upper 10,000.
Same here - when i signed up in late june, my affiliate number was (is) 4305... and those that my downline are coming in at are in the 10,000 range .
This is definitely starting to take off!
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PrincessK
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#42 · Posted: 27 Aug 2008 20:32
Yes that does help. When u say 10,000 like how much would that average out to as a monthly income 4 u ?
Thanks a lot!
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TJamMoneyMan
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#43 · Posted: 27 Aug 2008 22:10 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
PrincessK: When u say 10,000 like how much would that average out to as a monthly income 4 u ?
LOL!!
I WISH 10,000 were on my list! 
That would be $20,000!!!
(One time only, minus the $4 withdrawal fees!)
No, that's TOTAL members.
And to tell you the truth, not all members are active - or paid.
But all have a number.
Mine is 2553, the 2,553d person to at least sign up for free, as I understand it.
I of course, paid the $12 to get the commissions.
Now, two month's later, my member's I.D.#'s are in the 10,000+'s!
(that's I.D.#'s not AMOUNT of members!!)
I have about 42 members so far.
Not all are paid, active members though. 
There is a FAQ page to help you understand ML before you decide to pay in and receive commissions.
I guess that's the reason for inactive or active membership.
c u there!
tj
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megaonlinemoney
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#44 · Posted: 28 Aug 2008 11:20
yes - based on the matrix, the only person who's reaping the full benefits is the person who started this program - that $2 fee for EVERYONE who joins and pays to become active.
I have about 30 people on my list over 4 levels - and not all of them are active either.
Assuming another 10K join over the next month or two, I would expect to get a very small percentage of those to fall somewhere on my list.
I'm not looking at this as something that's going to replace my income but more like something that will certainly provide a pretty good return on my investment of $12.00.
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TJamMoneyMan
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#45 · Posted: 28 Aug 2008 15:05 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
megaonlinemoney: yes - based on the matrix, the only person who's reaping the full benefits is the person who started this program - that $2 fee for EVERYONE who joins and pays to become active. I have about 30 people on my list over 4 levels - and not all of them are active either. Assuming another 10K join over the next month or two, I would expect to get a very small percentage of those to fall somewhere on my list.
Well lessee here.
The way I understand it, 'the person who started this program' has to recruit just like anyone else. You only pay $2 to the 5 people on your list. 5 levels deep ONLY.
You are subsequently on levels 1 - 5 of each person's list, in order, from the first person on down.
The admin email address is not first on everyone's list!
If so, that would be a serious PYRAMID SCAM!!!
As for how many join over the next month or so, if it took two months for the membership to go up about 8,000.
The next 10,000 should come much quicker.
Geometric expansion and all that.
Of course, that assumes that folx continue to successfully promote this at at about the same rate as before.
But how well folx promote this, is of course that good old 'human factor'.
We'll have to wait and see for sure.
But even if 10 MILLION folx sign up, you will only get signups on your own particular levels as a result of your OWN successful promotional efforts.
Or those of your downline members, on each of your own 5 levels.
You want at least 20 signups on your first level.
That is, DIRECT referrals from your own efforts.
If everyone one your first and subsequent levels gets 20 direct signups, KA-BOOM!!
The more DIRECT and ACTIVE (paid) referrals you have, the more money you will make.
The more INDIRECT (levels 2 - 5) ACTIVE (paid and promoting!) referrals you have, the more your list will EXPLODE - geometrically!
That's when you REALLY make money, is the plan.
But you are at the top of your own levels, not the admin!
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megaonlinemoney
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#46 · Posted: 28 Aug 2008 15:48
TJamMoneyMan: The admin email address is not first on everyone's list! If so, that would be a serious PYRAMID SCAM!!!
I know that - what I am referring to is the $2.00 that goes to the 'maintenance' of the site etc. Which is the person who created mammoth list. no big deal. - and that doesn't make it a pyramid scam as you claim it would.
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TJamMoneyMan
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#47 · Posted: 28 Aug 2008 16:15 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
megaonlinemoney: I know that - what I am referring to is the $2.00 that goes to the 'maintenance' of the site etc. Which is the person who created mammoth list. no big deal. - and that doesn't make it a pyramid scam as you claim it would.
Ok, I understand you better now.
But where you said:
"the only person who's reaping the full benefits is the person who started this program - that $2 fee for EVERYONE who joins and pays to become active."
That statement's not entirely accurate.
As you know, the $2 admin fee is not per EVERYONE who joins and pays, but only 'per' the FIVE people who make up the list of folx you send $2 each to.
$10, plus the $2 admin fee.
So, that's $2 for 1/5 of everyone who joins, if you want to look at it that way.
But, since that's not a residual going down 5 levels for each member on the list, it's not 'reaping the full benefits' in anyway whatsoever.
Sure, the admin gets $2 per 5 people, but of course, that's for the cost of setting up/running the website, however much work and expense that may actually be.
The only way to 'reap the full benefits' of ML, would be to promote the heck out of your referral link, while having dowline members that do the same thing.
Anyway, I too don't care to make this a big deal, but just to clarify things.
Still, it's good you brought this up. I could see people thinking that something like that goes on. Some kind of pyramid structure or the like.
Thanx to your posting, folx won't get this wrong idea unnecessarily.
Good luck with your ML promotional effort!
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PrincessK
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#48 · Posted: 3 Sep 2008 17:41
Im debating on whether to do this mammoth list or cash leveraging system or both. I am hearing Cash Leveraging is having some problems so I guess I will start with this one .
We will see what happens
Karmen
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#49 · Posted: 3 Sep 2008 17:59
I joined, and I have sign ups, I wish that they would allow us to get paid for referrals to alert pay and solid trust pay. It would only take a minute to program the referral links in.
Besides the processing fee they are making a KILLING off of the people signing up for these accounts.
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Bigrich
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#50 · Posted: 3 Sep 2008 21:22
I looked but it didn't appeal to me...
I went another way and I get paid to build my list as well..
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TJamMoneyMan
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#51 · Posted: 3 Sep 2008 22:22 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
PrincessK: Im debating on whether to do this mammoth list or cash leveraging system or both. I am hearing Cash Leveraging is having some problems so I guess I will start with this one .
Why not do them BOTH Karmen?
I do!
I am getting lots of payments from both plans, and I don't know of ANY problems with THE CASH LEVERAGING SYSTEM whatsoever.
ONE person has complained of not getting an answer from the support team. (what website hasn't had THAT issue?)
I am trying to help him, but I get no response from HIM!
He is the only person having a problem with TCLS as far as I know.
traverus_travel: I joined, and I have sign ups, I wish that they would allow us to get paid for referrals to alert pay and solid trust pay. It would only take a minute to program the referral links in. Besides the processing fee they are making a KILLING off of the people signing up for these accounts.
Not sure what you are talking about here Traverus.
Who would pay for referrals?
Alert Pay and Solid Trust Pay, don't offer referral payouts as far as I know.
But if you like, I will PM you, or anyone else, a link to a wonderful NEW Payment Processor that WILL give you $10 per referral, with no strings attached.
It is free for anyone to join, you do NOT have to give up bank account information, and you will get $10 per referral IMMEDIATELY.
You can't lose with this plan!
And I don't know who is supposed to be making a 'killing' with these signups as there is only a reasonable $2 admin fee when you setup your ML account.
Hope you get some MAMMOTH sized payouts with ML!
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#52 · Posted: 4 Sep 2008 22:30
Another new list builder that has popped up in the past couple of weeks is list-twister. Anyone checked it out yet?
It claims to be a Mammothlist and ViralURL mated. Since I don't belong to either one, can someone provide any feedback?
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TJamMoneyMan
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#53 · Posted: 5 Sep 2008 05:51
mtinsdale: Another new list builder that has popped up in the past couple of weeks is list-twister. Anyone checked it out yet? It claims to be a Mammothlist and ViralURL mated. Since I don't belong to either one, can someone provide any feedback?
Same basic structure as ML but with a 7 level downline.
Costs $17 at $2 per payee, and a $3 admin fee.
Looks like the ML idea is catching on!
Perhaps ML will one day add some of the LIST TWISTER features like being able to mail your entire downline from the website itself.
Competition in cyberspace!
Want to find out more?
Start a List Twister thread!
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PrincessK
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#54 · Posted: 5 Sep 2008 17:07
i Alertpay and Solid Trust Pay bot ave a referral program u have a referral link under ur account info that u can give 2 others.
Love Always
Karmen
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TJamMoneyMan
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#55 · Posted: 5 Sep 2008 17:32
PrincessK: i Alertpay and Solid Trust Pay bot ave a referral program u have a referral link under ur account info that u can give 2 others.
As you requested, I just sent you my referral link for TRME.
They will give you $10 per referral, and it's free to join!
That's right, every member that joins FOR FREE, will earn you $10.
And your referral gets the exact same deal.
I believe you are allowed to earn up to $500 this way - 50 referrals.
Whoever joins TRME only has to sign up for a free account.
NOTHING MORE.
No bank account information has to be given.
It's part of a promotional effort that was going on earlier.
At that time, the person signing up got $25, no strings attached.
PLUS this same '$10 per referral' deal.
And of course, the person doing the referring got $10 as well.
$10 is not a lot of money but I think it's one of the best referral deals on the web.
UNBEATABLE when they were giving new signups $25 in addition.
NO ONE has to spend ANY MONEY!
How many of these 'earn money online' deals can match that?
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#56 · Posted: 10 Sep 2008 12:21
TJamMoneyMan: I have about 42 members so far. Not all are paid, active members though.
And all that without promoting? What's your secret?
I have been advertising ML on a couple of TEs for about three weeks now and not 1 signup! *sigh*....
Geno
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megaonlinemoney
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#57 · Posted: 10 Sep 2008 14:28
geno: I have been advertising ML on a couple of TEs for about three weeks now and not 1 signup! *sigh*....
Hi Geno - it took me over a month before seeing any results - my advice - be patient and don't rely soley on TEs for your traffic. Do you have a myspace profile? You could put a banner on it, post a bulletin to your friends, etc...
in other news. . .
has anyone had issues with Alert Pay? when i joined, i registered one of my bank accounts to it for withdrawal purposes. They're supposed to send 2 micro deposits that you verify in order to make your account active. They never posted and after several emails to them over the past month, i have yet to hear a peep from alert pay. that doesn't make me feel warm fuzzys towards them or their lack of professionalism/ customer support.
I would use safepay solutions instead, but their fees start at $7 and up.
So that'd be $9 when you factor in the ML withdrawal fee vs alert pay being $4.50 total.
i don't know about you, but paying 25% in fees for a measly $42 withdrawal is just plain ridiculous.
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#58 · Posted: 10 Sep 2008 18:00
megaonlinemoney: has anyone had issues with Alert Pay?
When I set up my alertpay account it took almost a month to get verified. It seemed like it took forever for the micro deposits to appear in my bank account.
Actually now that I have everything in place it as easy or easier in my mind than Paypal and you don't have to worry all the time if you account is going to be frozen due to some little overlooked TOS
Good luck,
Mark Tinsdale
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TJamMoneyMan
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#59 · Posted: 11 Sep 2008 00:23
geno: TJamMoneyMan: I have about 42 members so far. Not all are paid, active members though. And all that without promoting? What's your secret? I have been advertising ML on a couple of TEs for about three weeks now and not 1 signup! *sigh*...
I am NOT a fan of TE's!
Safelists either!
But there are TE and SL SUBMITTERS that can submit your url to HUNDREDS of TE's and SL's.
Daily!
I do forum postings though, and with the sig. line, I guess you could call THAT promoting.
But I will say that most of my 42 members came from the promotion efforts of my downline.
I actually only have 9 direct ref's myself!
They say you should get 20 DIRECT referrals for your ML to 'blow-up'.
Of course, that's only if THOSE direct ref's get 20 direct ref.s also!
Posting in forums is a good idea.
If you like, you or anyone else can PM me and I'll see if I can send a list of all the forums I am aware of.
Forums can help get the GOOD word out on TCLS!
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#60 · Posted: 11 Sep 2008 02:47
megaonlinemoney: has anyone had issues with Alert Pay?
Oh yes....
Took about 7 weeks to get my account with them verified. Latest issue with them is that when i tried to change / add a credit card, the system rejected it. Wrote in to the support dept and the reply was that AlertPay has suspended service to my country (Singapore) and i should consider some other alternative.
Anybody else having problems with them?
Geno
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