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#41 · Posted: 22 Apr 2011 22:51
The cost of everything is rising. The media calls it inflation which is actually the devaluation of the dollar...what you bought last year requires more dollars to buy the same thing this year. It's happening faster and faster.
Gold on the other hand is the one thing that for thousands of years has always retained its value...what one gram bought last year, one gram will buy this year.
Now there's an easy way to exchange some of your dollars into 999.9 gold bullion for protection against this increasing dollar devaluation. Then with the click of a button, exchange it back into cash and onto a debit card when and as needed OR simply exchange your gold bullion embedded cards for goods and services directly.
Start your own "exchange into gold and back as needed" program. It just makes so much good sense!
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#42 · Posted: 23 Apr 2011 01:51 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
tmorrison: The cost of everything is rising. The media calls it inflation which is actually the devaluation of the dollar...what you bought last year requires more dollars to buy the same thing this year. It's happening faster and faster.
What you are saying here represents the type of misinformation that is commonly spread by MLM's nowadays.
"The media" calls it inflation?
Since when did "the media" come up with the concept of inflation?
And sometimes it happens "faster and faster", and sometimes not.
Just check the history of inflation in the USA.
In the world!
KB may be an example of an MLM that may actually be of merit.
But you devalue that possibility by your use of what can only be termed soundbites and rhetoric.
INFORMATION would be a more useful tool.
As would be checking your statements before you post them.
INFLATION today is actually at one of the lowest rates in decades.
Certainly certain products, like oil - which translates to gas, for the regular guy, are at all time highs here in the US.
But if you check the rate of ALL costs, and income, in today's economy and you will see that inflation is actually VERY LOW in this particular time period.
I'll leave it to you to do some research for a change, and find out the truth of the matter for yourself.
But for a quick overview, take a look at todays single digit mortgage and bank interest rates.
The actual inflation rate for 2010 ended at less than TWO PERCENT.
Contrast that with the inflation rate of the 1970's which by the end of that decade was more than THIRTEEN PERCENT!
During this time, mortgages and bank accounts were also in the double digit range, versus todays single digit rates.
Again, please post verifiable facts and information about KB Gold and I think you will be doing KB and all of us a useful service.
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#43 · Posted: 23 Apr 2011 02:17
TJamMoneyMan: Again, please post verifiable facts and information about KB Gold and I think you will be doing KB and all of us a useful service.
Your right - lets get back to the topic. What is KB Gold?
It is the world's first and only Private Global Currency Exchange System where: Fiat paper currency (cash) can be exchanged for gold and silver bullion.
It is a savings account that is self directed. You own, manage and control your account online. Deposits are optional (just like where you bank now) and you have complete control.
Cash Deposits can be exchanged for gold or silver in the exchange rate for that day. Liquidity - Your gold and silver can be exchanged for cash, in any currency, at any time.
Cash is made available again. Buy/Sell/Own Gold direct from the Mining Company. No excessive "middle man" premiums or shipping costs.
This model has been a huge success in central Europe as affiliates can earn substantial - Referral Rewards Earn up to 670 Euro or $900 USD CAB bonus for each referral + up to 5.5% residual income on your referrals deposits.
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#44 · Posted: 23 Apr 2011 05:42 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
tmorrison: TJamMoneyMan: Again, please post verifiable facts and information about KB Gold and I think you will be doing KB and all of us a useful service. Your right - lets get back to the topic. What is KB Gold?
Yes.
PLEASE no more sound bites, rhetoric and misinformation!
As for this debit card - can you now use it for purchases here in the USA?
And, I understand the deposits to be automatic.
To make this clear, are you saying there is absolutely no requirement to make automatic deposits?
Is there absolutely no difference whatsoever between the compensation/rewards/benefits/access/whatever of an account holder that does automatic deposits v. one who doesn't?
Bank deposits offer and post a specific interest rate for accounts.
What is the interest rates on these KB accounts?
Is this interest compounded?
tmorrison: Referral Rewards Earn up to 670 Euro or $900 USD CAB bonus for each referral + up to 5.5% residual income on your referrals deposits.
So, are you ready to recognize that KB is an MLM?
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#45 · Posted: 24 Apr 2011 03:49 · Edited by: tmorrison
TJamMoneyMan: As for this debit card - can you now use it for purchases here in the USA? And, I understand the deposits to be automatic. To make this clear, are you saying there is absolutely no requirement to make automatic deposits? Is there absolutely no difference whatsoever between the compensation/rewards/benefits/access/whatever of an account holder that does automatic deposits v. one who doesn't? Bank deposits offer and post a specific interest rate for accounts. What is the interest rates on these KB accounts? Is this interest compounded? tmorrison: Referral Rewards Earn up to 670 Euro or $900 USD CAB bonus for each referral + up to 5.5% residual income on your referrals deposits. So, are you ready to recognize that KB is an MLM?
[b]As for this debit card - can you now use it for purchases here in the USA?
The Debit Cards will be sent to those who have commissions earned after KB Launches in the USA. The Launch is expected in early may. The card can be used like any Debit Card.
And, I understand the deposits to be automatic. To make this clear, are you saying there is absolutely no requirement to make automatic deposits?
You select how you want to make your cash exchange into Gold. There is no requirement to make automatic deposits, you may purchase by contract once a month or in whatever intervals you choose.
Is there absolutely no difference whatsoever between the compensation/rewards/benefits/access/whatever of an account holder that does automatic deposits and one who doesn't?
There is no difference to the individual who makes by contract or as a single purchase in terms of earning to them. There is far more paid out n CAB (Customer Acquisition Bonus) Paid out on contract purchase than single purchase. Refer to the compensation plan for details.
Bank deposits offer and post a specific interest rate for accounts.
What is the interest rates on these KB accounts?
Is this interest compounded?
This is not a "Bank Account." You are Buying Gold not placing money into into an interest bearing account. Whatever profits you realize on your Gold Purchase will only come from the increase in the value of your Gold that you purchase and that value will fluctuate as the price of Gold does. Their are also real profits to be made with KB in referral commissions by introducing others to KB, which could far exceed an profits you may realize on your Gold purchase.
Are you ready to recognize that KB is an MLM?
The KB Compensation model is not an MLM, although some may mistake it as such because you can earn commissions from someone who has been referred by others in your referral group. You earn based on the rank you are at as a result of the volume of Gold being purchased by those within your group, whether they are all on your 1st level or one of your down line levels. Some may have everyone on their first level (Not MLM) if the choose and should no one refer others below them they will still earn commission on all those based on your and their rank.
You need to watch the videos on the comp-plan to better understand this, but no, KB is not an MLM.
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#46 · Posted: 24 Apr 2011 11:28 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
tmorrison: There is far more paid out n CAB (Customer Acquisition Bonus) Paid out on contract purchase than single purchase. Refer to the compensation plan for details.
tmorrison: Their are also real profits to be made with KB in referral commissions by introducing others to KB, which could far exceed an profits you may realize on your Gold purchase.
So, you make more on commissions than on the product itself.
Tmorrison, that is MLM by definition!
The bulk of the money you will make comes from commissions, not from the gold you purchase!
tmorrison: You earn based on the rank you are at as a result of the volume of Gold being purchased by those within your group, whether they are all on your 1st level or one of your down line levels.
Again, MLM!
Anyone can 'google' "kb gold mlm" and come up with a LOT of sites, both pro and con, that identify KB Gold as an MLM.
Here are but a few:
http://whoisstevehawk.com/network-marketing-business-reviews/expert-kb-gold-review/
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=138397052850310
http://www.homebasedbusinessprogram.com/profiles/blogs/kbgold-germany-the-biggest
Tmorrison, you piqued my interest on KB Gold, but nearly ALL of your supporting statements have been erroneous.
And like so many MLM promoters, you deny being involved in an MLM!
tmorrison: You need to watch the videos on the comp-plan to better understand this, but no, KB is not an MLM.
You need to first post some accurate information, if you expect me to spend my valuable time watching videos!
MLM's have a terrible reputation for posting misinformation, as well as being unprofitable to financially damaging, for entry level recruits.
As a result, MLM promoters are either lying or misinformed themselves, in denying that the MLM they are promoting is actually an MLM.
I'll give you credit for simply being misinformed.
That KB Gold is an MLM seems undeniably obvious!
I'll let others post on the matter - hopefully the unbiased, that are not trying to peddle KB Gold.
good luck to u tmorrison!
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#47 · Posted: 24 Apr 2011 15:34
TJamMoneyMan: Tmorrison, you piqued my interest on KB Gold, but nearly ALL of your supporting statements have been erroneous. And like so many MLM promoters, you deny being involved in an MLM!
Appreciate your thoughts. Maybe you should look at my statements to respond accurately. I didn't deny being involved in MLM. I just wanted state if you viewed the video provided by KB, then maybe you might see where I am coming from. The business structure provides for another outlook without building the program multi-levels. So be it, by whatever definition, it is a sound business.
Happy Easter.
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#48 · Posted: 24 Apr 2011 16:54
tmorrison: but no, KB is not an MLM.
tmorrison: I didn't deny being involved in MLM.
huh?
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#49 · Posted: 24 Apr 2011 17:17 · Edited by: tmorrison
Just2EZ: but no, KB is not an MLM. tmorrison: I didn't deny being involved in MLM. huh?
Semantics my friend. We probably agree. Again KB could be structured by an individual/business partner not necessary in Multi-levels. Again - KB allows for those who wish to strictly participate just by customer base (no affiliation); but as stated as such, because you can earn commissions from someone who has been referred by others in your referral group it can be looked at as Mulit-levels. So there is options without denying KB could be structured in multi-levels for other benefits. But it is not a requirement.
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#50 · Posted: 24 Apr 2011 17:52
tmorrison: Again KB could be structured by an individual/business partner not necessary in Multi-levels. Again - KB allows for those who wish to strictly participate just by customer base (no affiliation); but as stated as such, because you can earn commissions from someone who has been referred by others in your referral group it can be looked at as Mulit-levels. So there is options without denying KB could be structured in multi-levels for other benefits. But it is not a requirement.
WOW!
Talk about "huh?"!
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#51 · Posted: 26 Apr 2011 17:59
tmorrison
Where is this company located? What fees are added to the spot price of gold and silver when you purchase bullion?
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#52 · Posted: 26 Apr 2011 19:37 · Edited by: tmorrison
floridalady: Where is this company located? What fees are added to the spot price of gold and silver when you purchase bullion?
Hi Floridalady - The KB Vision Corporate Headquarters is in Munich, Germany. Daily Operations is in Stuttgart, Germany. More specific physical addresses can be found in the website.
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There are many factors to consider when giving the above answer. Way to many variables..
Spot could mean without fees such as commissions, broker fees, assaying , certification, delivery, storage, kinebar quality, etc.
The best way I can respond to this question is for you to go to the website and see what KB is asking for KB 1 gram kinebar bullion... and then search other Gold dealers and compare prices.
I believe there is no one in the industry that I have found to have better pricing than KB. The closest pricing would be UBS & Suisse Bank and they are normally anywhere between 1 to 5 euro higher per gram.
The challenge we have is to educate our customers to the variances of buying bullion in different weights. With gold.. the various weights are really different products that serve different purposes.
I appreciate the question.
Tommy
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#53 · Posted: 4 May 2011 04:20
KB Gold is set to open May 11th 2011 in the US and Canada - Confirmed!
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#54 · Posted: 8 Jun 2011 08:27
KB Vision Breaking News
Country openings 06/07/2011
The following new countries are open with immediate effect:
USA - Canada - Australia - New Zealand - England - Ireland - Iceland
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#55 · Posted: 11 Jun 2011 21:42
Time will tell,
No doubt with collapsing world economies and the U.S. dollar at severe risk of dropping like a rock, sooner than most think, gold is a good place to put your money. Unlike fiat currencies which can collpapse, gold has never been worth zero, so safest way to protect yourself in these uncertain financial times. Since it s free to register as an affiliate, and you can earn gold, no risk as I see it.
Success to all,
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#56 · Posted: 22 Jun 2011 14:37
Skydancer, I dont agree in investing or building a buisiness on coins, for one thing that are Government properties, you don't own them, you can't melt them for the value.
As for the american silver eagle coin, it as soem value now, but the thing to remember with collectables, is that the rarer it is the more value it gets, so in 10 years from now all those MLM'ers will have flooded themarket with teh silver eagle coin, that will not have a great collector value, because there will millions of it floating around, all top graded bla bla bla, and you wont be able to melt it for the metal value, cause that is illegal. and you spent $100 & itsworth $20
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#57 · Posted: 22 Jun 2011 20:27 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
FREEBUSINESSES: with collapsing world economies and the U.S. dollar at severe risk of dropping like a rock, sooner than most think, gold is a good place to put your money.
Never mind that most of this is political scare tactic generated by groups that find themselves out of the power loop, with a presidential election year pending.
You who think you are going to protect yourself by buying into an MLM are in for a rude awakening (when the "end of the world", monetarily, occurs), to put it mildly.
I suggest you guys do some research on money.
Ask yourself, what intrinsic monetary value does gold have?
The answer of course is none - but that societies have accepted certain precious metals, due in part to their scarcity, as having monetary value.
The actual earthly amount of precious ANYTHING is limited, which is why 'fiat' money was produced in the first place.
Along with the fact that fiat money can be replaced - unlike gold or any other commodity which can be stolen, lost (as in a shipwreck), or destroyed and thus made permanently unavailable to a nation/society.
Haven't you asked yourselves why virtually all contemporary societies/nations use a 'fiat' monetary system?
If a world currency, like the dollar, were to "collapse".
What do you think would be the value of your MLM holdings?
How would the people who manage your MLM get paid to deliver the precious gold you now possess?
The list of people who would have to be PAID in order for you to actualize the value of your MLM gold possessions is beyond comprehension!
As is the problems we would face, if ANY major monetary system would "collapse" - whatever you guys mean by that.
Or do you who make these dubious claims mean anything in particular by such terminology?
Money, in today's world, is no longer a thing (commodity money - gold, silver, livestock, peppercorns, cannabis, etc.)
It is society itself!
A society/nation's monetary policy.
What value could you even place on your MLM gold?
WHERE would you safely store it (real gold)?
HOW would you carry it around?
WHO is gonna protect you from the roving bands of desperados who will simply jack you for any and everything you own anyway (unless you find a way to PAY people to maintain social order)?
These questions too are virtually beyond human comprehension and delineation.
I'd bet my life on just about any of the major money systems, vs. an MLM!!
We are talking about an MLM here!
"No risk"!?!
You are kidding right?
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#58 · Posted: 22 Jun 2011 22:54
Interesting,
Political scare tactics? You have to be kidding, it is the truth that is finally becoming mainstream, not the lies perpetuated by the liberal main stream media. The only thing that is scary is the truth, and if it scares people, good, gives people a chance to prepare for emergencies, rather than putting head in sand and ignoring what is going on around the world. You have heard of Greece, Ireland, Spain and Italy, all about to collapse like dominos, and no, this is not scare tactics, it is reality, as in truth.
Fiat currencies have failed all throughout history and many became worthless, yet throughout the same history, gold has never been worth nothing. Gold is gold, and given I first started investing in it it in 1986 when it was range of $330. to $400, so what is your equal U.S. dollars worth now adjusted for inflation?
Your example of fiat money being lost, and can be replaced, yes but at a cost equal to loss, so how is that any different in losing gold? If as you indicate, you lose gold in shipwreck, that just increases value as it is tied to supply and demand just like all commodities are based on. So sorry, this does not compute. We'll see what the dollar is worth at the end of the year vs. gold and then we can compare notes.
As to MLM, there is always risk in any business venture, MLM or mainstream, but being garage qualified with gold is far better than with vitamins and juice deals, so I'll take gold anyday. There is no such thing as no risk in investing and business, but the safer investment is in gold, and silver which has more risk, but more upside as well, risk vs. reward, nothing new about this.
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#59 · Posted: 23 Jun 2011 03:03
TJamMoneyMan: I suggest you guys do some research on money. Ask yourself, what intrinsic monetary value does gold have?
No need for research. What intrinsic monetary value does the US Dollar have today?
Fact: The Dollar has lost almost 97% of it's purchasing power. Why? - In simple terms because it is backed by nothing. The Fed prints money out of thin air.
Inflation historically has destroyed economies..
Stop listening to the Government and Bankers.
Must see...Facts: http://youtu.be/Q0hHtp6e548
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#60 · Posted: 23 Jun 2011 08:47 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
tmorrison: No need for research.
That about sums up the basis of your outlook in all of your posts in this thread my man!
tmorrison: What intrinsic monetary value does the US Dollar have today?
You don't even know what "intrinsic monetary value" means do you?
tmorrison: Inflation historically has destroyed economies.
Can you cite which economies have been destroyed by inflation, the percentage of and reasons for such an inflation?
Can you make a meaningful comparison between those economies and that of the USA?
Do you know the rates of inflation during American history - during the years surrounding "the great depression", world wars 1 and 2, the 1970's?
Do you even know the current rate of inflation here in the USA?
Have you taken a look at inflation rates since 2008?
Now, explain how investing in an MLM is going to "save" the world's economies!
Yes, I agree with you.
There's certainly "no need for research", when you can just make up facts on your own!
(hint: stop trying to get your "facts" from watching videos, and do some real research - READING!)
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