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TJamMoneyMan
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#21 · Posted: 17 Apr 2011 20:43
tmorrison: Just don't put your money in a US bank either.
Oh yeah, don't trust the US banking system.
Put your faith and life savings in an MLM!
tmorrison: You don't want your money to disappear with Lehman's Brothers, or Fannie and Freddy mac, Goldman Sachs...etc
Who ever lost their own money due to the collapse of an FDIC insured bank account???
Now how many people have lost money in MLM (Must Lose Money)?
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#22 · Posted: 17 Apr 2011 21:42
TJamMoneyMan: Oh yeah, don't trust the US banking system. Put your faith and life savings in an MLM!
KB Vision is not MLM and is for everyone, the team that has been assembled here and the team work being put in is like something the world has never seen before.
KB Vision is the FIRST Private global currency exchange system. The solution you have probably been hoping for, exchange your depreciating currency into appreciating currency. Gold and silver dispensing machines are beginning to appear in malls around the world, states are passing laws making gold and silver legal tender (strange as it is gold and silver have always been real money and a global currency) obviously something is up. I believe people are finally waking up to the fact they have been robbed.
The KB Vision Gold & Silver Business Opportunity could not be here at a better time.
With the world economy in such a volatile state, everyone is or should be worried to some extent. From the real estate crisis, to the banking crisis caused by the mortgage defaults, to the car industry crisis, and the individual countries that are on the verge of bankruptcy, we're all affected by this uncertain global economy in one way or another.
The KB Vision Gold & Silver Business also offers the KB Gold savings account, and the opportunity to get paid for referrals. This is as simple as:
1. Opening a KB Gold & Silver savings account, with KB Gold. This is an account which you own, manage and can control online.
2. Deposit monthly amounts into the account, just as you would in a regular savings account. Your deposits are immediately exchanged for gold at the exchange rate for that day. Conversely, your savings account gold holdings can also be exchanged for cash, in any currency, at any time. You now have an appreciating asset exchanging your cash for gold & silver.
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#23 · Posted: 18 Apr 2011 00:54
Are these accounts FDIC insured?
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#24 · Posted: 18 Apr 2011 01:08
tmorrison: You don't want your money to disappear with Lehman's Brothers, or Fannie and Freddy mac, Goldman Sachs...etc
Who here has seen their money "disappear" with these entities?
taz87: That is also very true, especially how things are turning out to be heading...may god have mercy on us all,for the future looks bleak!
I think I see where this is coming from, but pardon me if I am wrong.
Despite the tons of conservative rhetoric, it's the PAST that was bleak!
Anyone who was paying attention should have noted that at the end of the Clinton administration (not that I am a Bill Clinton fan) this country was at peace, with a BALANCED BUDGET!
Subsequently, eight years of GW found us fighting TWO hopeless wars and facing a financial crisis the likes of which has not been seen since the great depression - which by the way, took more than a DECADE (and a SECOND WORLD WAR) for the US to recover from.
And now conservatives are spouting rhetoric that demands a solution be realized in barely TWO YEARS!
Now that conservative backers of the rich and super rich are finally out of the loop the future NO LONGER looks bleak - though they'd like you to think so!
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#25 · Posted: 18 Apr 2011 01:11
tmorrison: the banking crisis caused by the mortgage defaults
Hmmm...
PEOPLE defaulting on their mortgages caused the banking crisis???
Excesses of the rich and super rich had nothing at all to do with it I guess!
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#26 · Posted: 18 Apr 2011 08:40
getting back to point,
Is Kb bank one of Pyramid business?
Do you have down lines?
Do you get certain amount of commission whenever your down
Deposit money to?
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#27 · Posted: 18 Apr 2011 14:59
Depends on what kind of investor you are. Gold is safer since it;s physical as opposed to say a tech company, then again that tech company will have a much higher fluctuation rate so that is more for the gambler.
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#28 · Posted: 18 Apr 2011 17:21 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
jaesun16: Is Kb bank one of Pyramid business? Do you have down lines? Do you get certain amount of commission whenever your down Deposit money to?
Yes to all of that, from what the website shows (MLM is a nice way of saying PYRAMID).
KB even has auto ship (auto-save!).
And like most MLM's, they deny being an MLM!
My point in addressing the political rhetoric, is that such was used as a distraction.
Creating needless insecurity and panic - which definitely affects the market AND economy, in an effort to sell you on KB gold.
Push KB if you want to, but don't try comparing it to a real FDIC insured bank account!
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#29 · Posted: 18 Apr 2011 17:30
TJamMoneyMan: Are these accounts FDIC insured?
No they are not FDIC approved. They are FAR FAR better than FDIC. As I understand it the FDIC is virtually bankrupt anyway. I don't have an accurate figure of their indebtedness..But I recall Congress loaning them 500 Billion recently.
FDIC would pay off in fiat dollar bills that have been inflate to near worthless and KB is buying GOLD & Silver. In other words you convert inflated dollars to GOLD & Silver in your savings account (appreciating asset).
KB is Vault Certified, if you choose to store it...
Gold is stored in Sct. Gotthard Massif in Switzerland in the same secure location where the Swiss government stores their national gold reserve. All stored gold is immediately secured and audits are performed regularly by PriceWaterhouseCoopers and Swiss authorities.
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#30 · Posted: 18 Apr 2011 18:01 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
tmorrison: FDIC would pay off in fiat dollar bills
I personally had a 5 figure bank account in an institution that tanked in the Savings and Loan scandal of the 1980's (yes, I'm an 'old head').
I was paid in full for the money I lost, by certified check, that I cashed for real US dollars.
As for:tmorrison: KB Vision is not MLM
That doesn't stand up to the facts - you get paid on LEVELS for your referrals.
And, Steven Hawk's KB 'friendly' site here - http://whoisstevehawk.com/network-marketing-business-reviews/expert-kb-gold-review/, sure sez otherwise.
I actually hope KB works for you and whoever else gets involved.
But please sir, just the facts!
Good luck 2u...
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#31 · Posted: 18 Apr 2011 18:16
tmorrison: As I understand it the FDIC is virtually bankrupt anyway.
Again, please stop with the scare tactics.
The FDIC will be ok, as long as the US is ok, bankrupt or otherwise.
If the US fails, you can forget about your gold backed debit card as well.
If the US fails, what do you plan to do with your debit card?
What currency do you plan to convert to?
How do you plan to GET to the country to get your cash?
If the US/world economy tanks, you'll have plenty of other problems to worry about.
And it's not even correct to say gold (or silver) 'appreciates'.
They FLUCTUATE - as in up OR down.
Good luck 2u anyway, but I think you'll do a lot better if you check your statements...
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#32 · Posted: 18 Apr 2011 18:31 · Edited by: tmorrison
jaesun16: getting back to point, Do you have down lines? Do you get certain amount of commission whenever your down Deposit money to?
KB Vision Gold & Silver is offered in KB Gold & Silver cards, which are currently accepted as currency in over 7000 establishments in Germany and Europe. People pay for their goods and services using the KB Gold card; real gold bullion enclosed in a credit-card type casing.
The KB Vision Business also offers the KB Gold & Silver savings account, and the opportunity to get paid for referrals. This is as simple as:
1. Opening a KB Gold savings account, with KB Gold. This is an account which you own, manage and can control online.
2. Deposit monthly amounts into the account, just as you would in a regular savings account. Your deposits are immediately exchanged for gold at the exchange rate for that day. Conversely, your savings account gold holdings can also be exchanged for cash, in any currency, at any time.
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#33 · Posted: 18 Apr 2011 18:42 · Edited by: tmorrison
TJamMoneyMan: Again, please stop with the scare tactics. The FDIC will be ok, as long as the US is ok, bankrupt or otherwise. If the US fails, you can forget about your gold backed debit card as well. If the US fails, what do you plan to do with your debit card? What currency do you plan to convert to? How do you plan to GET to the country to get your cash? If the US/world economy tanks, you'll have plenty of other problems to worry about. And it's not even correct to say gold (or silver) 'appreciates'. They FLUCTUATE - as in up OR down. Good luck 2u anyway, but I think you'll do a lot better if you check your statements...
Thank you for sharing your perspective. I respect your thoughts. I am a proud US Citizen proud of my country, but I sure hope we don't continue driving into the ground. Being 14 Trillion in the hole should be alarming and I just hope that our leaders care like you do and I do.
I am just presenting a sound option with KB Vision that could protect us with these challenging times. Again, I respect your thoughts.
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#34 · Posted: 18 Apr 2011 22:46 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
Glad you are not offended.
I am just giving my honest opinion.
Do you remember the Y2K scare?
No doubt you knew of people, like I did, that flipped out over that one as well.
I knew of at least one person who actually went to Canada, to escape what, or how, I can't imagine!
Even without the computer issues, people just thought we had reached the 2000 year, end of the world mark - as though our western calendar is the mark for the entire world.
Despite that the 2000 year mark actually begins in 2001, not one person, psychic or conspiracy theorist could foresee 9/11 and the changes to western civilization THAT date produced!
There have been serious, and countless 'end of the world' scares since the death of Jesus - and no doubt before then!
Now of course, the world is going to end THIS year, after his supposed return on May 12.
And there's the 2012 movie/Mayan calendar prediction which will no doubt spook many folks for next year's demise of all mankind.
Do you think the dinosaurs saw it coming?
I don't think we will either!
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#35 · Posted: 18 Apr 2011 22:49 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
tmorrison: Being 14 Trillion in the hole should be alarming
Yes that would be, but for the fact that you are missing a decimal point there my man!!
So hip us in to KB if you will, but please check your facts first!
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#36 · Posted: 19 Apr 2011 06:57
Be Your Own Central Bank; Own Gold, Silver: Marc Faber Famed investor Marc Faber, Editor and Publisher of The Gloom, Boom & Doom Report said investors "should be their own central banks and gradually accumulate gold reserves as a currency", rather than speculating in gold...
Read more: http://www.cnbc.com/id/42639020
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#37 · Posted: 19 Apr 2011 12:00 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
tmorrison: Not offended by your thoughts. Honestly you have balanced my view, but we can agree to disagree on some things.
Cool!
But for the record, the fact is, the US deficit is certainly not FOURTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS!!
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#38 · Posted: 19 Apr 2011 17:46 · Edited by: tmorrison
TJamMoneyMan: Cool! But for the record, the fact is, the US deficit is certainly not FOURTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS!!
National debt - I could be wrong: http://www.oddhammer.com/tutorials/debt_clock/
CNN Money: http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/18/news/economy/us_credit_rating_outlook_lowered/?cnn=yes
I look forward to our great discussion. I hope you can digest the KB Vision (First Gold & Silver backed savings accounts) Business program. Looking for some sound partners as the US & Canada will be opening May 1st, 2011. All the best.
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#39 · Posted: 20 Apr 2011 07:18
Thanks
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#40 · Posted: 21 Apr 2011 20:32 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
tmorrison: But for the record, the fact is, the US deficit is certainly not FOURTEEN TRILLION DOLLARS!! National debt - I could be wrong: http://www.oddhammer.com/tutorials/debt_clock/
Let's not confuse DEBT with DEFICIT:
http://useconomy.about.com/od/fiscalpolicy/p/US_Debt_Deficit.htm
If you owe money that's debt.
If you don't earn or will not have enough to pay, that's deficit.
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