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kahedi4
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#21 · Posted: 30 Jul 2009 19:28
You are wrong. For the 39.96 you get 10,000 leads. They are put in a rotator with 24 other people.
Now if you buy a package then your link get's sent out alone.
You people are missing the point of the SFS. I've been doing online work for over 8 years.
The leads that everyone thinks they are buying is not correct. These are double opt ins. Which means they have already opted in to the system. Your link gets sent out for them to sign up. Of course why would they when they are reading crap like this.
You people are screwing yourselves. You certainly aren't leaders or know what it takes and how much money it takes to make thousands online. If you were then every one of you would know exactly what's going on.
You are paying for a funded proposal. In other words if people sign up under you, then you can see if they want to join you in your other business. If they don't fine. You will still make money.
A real no-brainer. Good luck to all of you that think your going to get people running after you for what you have. Unless you have credibility it won't happen. And even if you people did get someone, they wouldn't stay under you because you don't know how to help them be successful.
Do not bother replying for the simple fact that time is money and I have better things to do then listen to negative people.
Good luck to all of you and best wishes
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paolo4
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#22 · Posted: 31 Jul 2009 07:50
Well said Karen.
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FreeCashMan
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#23 · Posted: 31 Jul 2009 09:58
Karen, good to see such wisdom amongst the post. Most people fail before they start. And, the epitome of failure is when one stops trying to succeed.
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karenpore
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#24 · Posted: 31 Jul 2009 17:44
Very well said Karen...another point some people took wrong in the launch of the SFS system is even as a basic member that rotator goes out with the 24 other people 400 times..so you are still getting the 10,000 double opt ins. So I wanted to make sure some got confused in pre-launch about that....VERY WELL SAID
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mellin
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#25 · Posted: 31 Jul 2009 19:27
kahedi4: You people are screwing yourselves. You certainly aren't leaders or know what it takes and how much money it takes to make thousands online. If you were then every one of you would know exactly what's going on.
kahedi4: Do not bother replying for the simple fact that time is money and I have better things to do then listen to negative people.
An insult followed by a direction not to respond to the insult, interesting from a newbie to this message board.
Instead of throwing around insults, how about giving some results you are seeing from this program. I don't think anyone can dispute that Birdsall's opportunity pitch that was all over the internet during prelaunch changed on launch night. That in itself, soured me on this program. I guess I just "screwed myself" though.
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karenpore
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#26 · Posted: 31 Jul 2009 19:42 · Edited by: karenpore
These are my personal results. After a week my results have been after the cost of the system thus far $555 a month back in commissions. Don't know if that helps at all. Some have had better results but I would think those people are broadcasting to their lists and their lists are very large would be my thinking on that. I know there is one members with over $9,000 a month already..but again that person's list is probably much larger than mine is. The majority are seeing the range of $100 a month-$4400 a month.
Hope that helps with some personal results. I think some people just frustrated that there are certain personality types no matter what the program is it is a scam and that can become frustrating but you are not always getting any real information on the program. That's just my personal opinion on some of the previous postings.
To everyone's online success
Karen Pore
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mellin
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#27 · Posted: 31 Jul 2009 20:25
Thanks for those numbers. Karen, I agree with you, there are certain personality types that think that everything is a scam. Like I had posted earlier, I opted into this program early, had like 29,000 people under me in my "downline", but was discouraged by the changes announced on launch night (that the $9.99 was for 3 days only and would then have to pay $39.99). I guess I jumped the gun on quitting and need to go back and take another look.
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WARRANTIES4LESS
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#28 · Posted: 31 Jul 2009 20:36
paolo4: There are loads of free ways of getting leads so why pay for them?
Time is money, and money buys time, so yes, you can generate leads without spending money, but you can't do it without spending time, so for me, buying leads is the only way to build list of any significant size.
Success to all,
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karenpore
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#29 · Posted: 31 Jul 2009 20:39 · Edited by: karenpore
Go and check it out http://www.Streamline-Funnel.com it's not too late at all. It just launched so there will be a lot more people coming in. We are growing by about 200 people a day on average right now.
I know the pricing was confusing to come people. But it did open up the window for even more commissions. You earn $15 a month back for every monthly fee of the $39.95 and also the $9.95 you automatically earn that back because 1 member is placed right under the other so even without any enrollments right now you automatically get $9 of the $9.95 back.
Totally up to you thought I would pass it along!
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paolo4
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#30 · Posted: 1 Aug 2009 08:03
Warrantiesforless,
Yes, time is money!
What if you sent out one email?
Offered a % of your profits and gained all the leads at the same time, of peolpe interested in that specific niche!
Would that be worth your time spent?
Try it! Joint Ventures works! This is the way to build your list the fast way, quickest way and most profitable.
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#31 · Posted: 4 Aug 2009 22:21
You might want to check the mlm watch dog sight they keep a good trak on this kinda stuff after reading your posts it sounds like a scam cant be sure. MLM watch dog is pro mlm so its not a mlm hater but he wants to protect the people who want to work in mlm and the industry
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richbme
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#32 · Posted: 6 Aug 2009 20:22
Actually that is based on the law of averages, so yes it is wrong your link is sent out with 25 other people to 250,000 leads per month.Which makes it 10,000 based on their beta testing you would most likely get 12 signups per month and assuming that they buy a 10k pkg then your comission would be $65.00 per person.
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loud1
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#33 · Posted: 9 Aug 2009 16:47
Streamline Funnel has not paid any commissions yet. They say they will pay Aug. 16th. The rotator stated last Monday and about 50 new members coming in every 24 hrs. some of thoes could be comimg from members own advertising. Maybe a scam. There's been lot and lots of problems.
My advice is to wait and see.
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loud1
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#34 · Posted: 10 Aug 2009 11:26
Here's the numbers for Steamline Funnel.
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Today at 09:36 AM
Reply with quote #4
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Example given by SFS:
10,000 leads sent out and .5% (Less than 1%) join. That's 50 people.
50 people and 25% of those upgrade, this means 12.5 people upgrade.
Round down to 12 people and they get the 10k lead package.
10,000 Leads x .5%= 50 People
50 People x $15 for each person = $750
$50 commission from each of the 12 people that upgraded = $600
Your total in commissions $1350.
They need to say these numbers can't happen and they werer wrong.
do the numbers:
If the average with all rotators and the lead packs is just 1 new member per month ( some may get 10 and many may not get any ) lets say 1 is the average.
If we have 10,000 member and average is 1 new per month next month we will have 20,000 members.
If the 20,000 average 1 then then we have 40,000 and so on every month.
In 8 month we have 1,280,000 members.
How many in 1 year?
For the program to work many, many people will lose money and drop out.
To keep going we need to brng in new members to replace all the ones who drop out.
SFS needs to make it very clear that you may not make any money.
and not some disclaimer.
If it's too good to be true.
Also, in terms and conditions
Refund Policy
All sales are final. There will be absolutely NO REFUNDS.
BEWARE!!!!!
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greeeeeeep
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#35 · Posted: 10 Aug 2009 12:35
You aren't figuring wright.
You get $15 per personal member and half of the package they
purchase. You also get the $9.99 - 99 cents
So one member with a the first package thats $74.
geeeeeeep
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greeeeeeep
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#36 · Posted: 10 Aug 2009 12:45
The rotator just went out last week.
We are supposed to get paid this week and at the end of the
month.
I still want to see my first payment.
They are improving the system and soon we will be able
to email our downlines.
I urge you to hang in there for one month by that time your
link will be seen in the rotator.
Good Luck.
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FreeCashMan
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#37 · Posted: 10 Aug 2009 15:34
Karen you need to remove your personal link for SFS in your post. It needs to be in the signature link. You link directly confuses people into thinking that is the general company link.
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WARRANTIES4LESS
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#38 · Posted: 10 Aug 2009 19:10 · Edited by: WARRANTIES4LESS
paolo4: Warrantiesforless, Yes, time is money! What if you sent out one email? Offered a % of your profits and gained all the leads at the same time, of peolpe interested in that specific niche! Would that be worth your time spent? Try it! Joint Ventures works! This is the way to build your list the fast way, quickest way and most profitable.
One email? Come on, seriously, you would have to send out hundreds to hook up with someone willing to do a joint venture deal. I use to do this all the time in traditional business, but online, I don't know, suppose it is possibel, but it will not be done with one email. If you have proof of one email venture, I am all ears.
It takes time to cultivate trust with someone over the internet, and one email is not going to get you anywhere fast. I can see the potential if you are able to build a relationship with another business owner and do what I use to do, reciprocal referrals, I would hook up with other businesses and do a mailing, and that was a very profitable strategy, but I just don't know via the internet.
Success to all,
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#39 · Posted: 11 Aug 2009 02:04
Hey FreeCashMan I have been trying to do that I can't figure out how to edit or delet a post...any know out there how to do it?
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#40 · Posted: 11 Aug 2009 07:48
karenpore: Hey FreeCashMan I have been trying to do that I can't figure out how to edit or delet a post...any know out there how to do it?
I think that if there was a problem with your post, the administration here either would have fixed it or deleted it. JMHO though.
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