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WARRANTIES4LESS
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#181 · Posted: 24 May 2009 18:11
Interesting,
No doubt with all the nutritional deals out there, it is amazing any of them succeed, but hey, Shaklee is still going strong and they were one of the first I can remember.
I have tried them all, and I can't say anyone of them made me feel any better, but with constant studies flip flopping back and forth on the issue, better to be safe than sorry. I research what I feel is important to take, and it is not so much vitamins that are important, but anti oxidants are in my research.
Fortunately, I am not on any medications, in fact, I don't even take an aspirin if I have a headache, so I resist any prescribed drugs and always will. There is just too much BS on both sides of the health issue, but some are well worth taking if you want to keep your immunity system at highest level possible, so that is my focus.
As to Trump, what I have heard privately is encouraging, for not only will the offer nutritionals, but also immune boosting anti oxidants, so who knows what everyone needs when it comes to nutrition, but for sure, anything that boosts immunity with hard facts backing it are what I am interested in.
With Trump launching it to coordinate with Apprentice, this will be a launch like none other, especially since he has such a successful season this past year where he even had a show on ACN which is an MLM. Perhaps with the name recognition he will indeed pull off a miracle and bring more attention to MLM industry, and given most people will follow the crowd, I expect this one to be huge.
I wasn't as interested at first look, but a friend put me in so I could review materials, this is a first class operation in the making. I don't know if anyone else has gotten marketing portfolio yet, but I am impressed with what they provide distributors. Like everything, time will tell, but I like to research them all personally, so we shall see, but at this point, with all I have seen, this will be huge, so I am glad I took closer look, a few yet to be announced products are just what I am looking for.
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#182 · Posted: 26 May 2009 15:35 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
USA1950: I know first hand that Doctors will sometimes recommend that you take a multivitamin.
Sometimes, yes!
But maybe they should be recommending Anti-oxidants:
WARRANTIES4LESS: with constant studies flip flopping back and forth on the issue, better to be safe than sorry. I research what I feel is important to take, and it is not so much vitamins that are important, but anti oxidants are in my research.
I'm all for being safe than sorry, but with food supps. and vitamins, who knows what is safe?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=prostrate+cancer+deaths+vitamins+study&aq=f&oq=& aqi=
ONE thing for CERTAIN - these supp.s and vitamins COST!
Perhaps if you have excess cash to toss around that's no concern whatsoever, but I am willing to bet there is a stress/health factor to consider, when hustling your buns on the block - overtime as necessary, trying to keep up with the extra COST involved with these things.
And one final consideration.
These nutritional supp. MLM's are out to make MONEY (duh!).
Those selling/using the supp.s as well, despite whether or not they truly believe in the product.
Chinese proverb (according to the KUNG FU TV series anyway!!):
Honor dies where interest lies...
Hell, there's genes, DNA, life choices, enviroment, personal experiences, etc.
I seriously doubt that Mother Nature has been lax in any way, in providing what we need for ultimate health and longevity, without making the rich unnecessarily richer.
I am reasonable, and recognize that in today's modern world, there's no escaping food processing.
And I don't doubt the reason and science of food nutrition and supplements.
I do experiment, and am about to try glucosamine for one thing in particular.
And of course, I have tried many supps in the past, as well as vitamins, and 'health foods'.
I just can't trust someone who is trying to SELL me a product, to give me the 'real deal' as far as information both pro and con is concerned.
ESPECIALLY, an MLM type company!!
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USA1950
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#183 · Posted: 26 May 2009 22:53
Interesting it is.
Some people can't seem to make up their minds. First they talk down a program, assuming they investigated it before coming out with their opinion and then turn around and talk it up because some insider gave "him" some in formation.
WARRANTIES4LESS: Personally, I don't care who Trump is, his name is not going to make people successful, especially in MLM, and as for Ideal Health, it is fact that so called custom nutritional plan is BS. First, several companies have tried this, and none have been that successful, so already the BS is spreading that this is the first time custom testing for vitamin pills for each person is being promoted
WARRANTIES4LESS: I wasn't as interested at first look, but a friend put me in so I could review materials, this is a first class operation in the making.
WARRANTIES4LESS: Like everything, time will tell, but I like to research them all personally, so we shall see
WARRANTIES4LESS: Fortunately, I am not on any medications in fact, I don't even take an aspirin if I have a headache, so I resist any prescribed drugs and always will.
Well good for you, nice to know you are really healthy, but there are a few of us who spent time in a combat zone and where exposed to chemicals that mother nature has no cure for. [i][/i]
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USA1950
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#184 · Posted: 26 May 2009 23:15 · Edited by: USA1950
This is even more interesting
WARRANTIES4LESS: Interesting, Here is a new twist, I have someone from RXCut deal calling and wanting my to register for their program, so that makes me think they don't have any integrity given they had to have taken my name from IntelaTrader? Like I said, I was not interested in RX deal for everyone is offering it, and besides, I don't need it.
For someone who has no interest in RX Cut, then why are you promoting it in your signature. I know for sure that the account is not the same as Intelatraders. I guess you researched these people also. Did you get more inside information.... What happen to integrity ?????? ......
LOL LOL LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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USA1950
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#185 · Posted: 27 May 2009 08:23 · Edited by: USA1950
WARRANTIES4LESS: I wasn't as interested at first look, but a friend put me in so I could review materials, this is a first class operation in the making. I don't know if anyone else has gotten marketing portfolio yet, but I am impressed with what they provide distributors. Like everything, time will tell, but I like to research them all personally, so we shall see, but at this point, with all I have seen, this will be huge, so I am glad I took closer look, a few yet to be announced products are just what I am looking for[i][/i].
Forgot to add this also. Pay close attention to the last line. If you want to know what the "yet to be announced products are", he really wants to you visit his recession proof site and sign up. So hurry up and spend your $30.00 bucks to find out what people probably won't be able to afford to purchase in the first place. LOL LOL LOL
WARRANTIES4LESS:
Personally, I don't care who Trump is, his name is not going to make people successful, especially in MLM,
LOL LOL LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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USA1950
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#186 · Posted: 28 May 2009 08:35
USA1950: For someone who has no interest in RX Cut, then why are you promoting it in your signature
Correction folk, when you go to his recession proof site, just scroll down the page and you will find his RXCut Card. You know the one he said he didn't need to get involved with. They have an integrity issue..... LOL LOL LOL
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TJamMoneyMan
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#187 · Posted: 2 Jun 2009 15:51
USA1950: They have an integrity issue.....
That is bound to occur.
I have no problem with the POSSIBLE benefits of supplements and the like, and can understand the thinking of choosing to 'rather be safe than sorry'.
But when you build a company, income, and profit from selling these products, well, the concept of how effective and safe they are gets tossed by the wayside.
Frankly these MLM's, built around supplements and the like, are far more interested in continuing to make MONEY, than whether or not their products are as good, effective, or safe as they would like to think they are.
Naturally, those promoting these products individually also are prone to the same way of thinking.
Then too, there are sooo many natural alternatives to these man-made prducts, and ways to promote one's health. BUT, many of these natural products and concepts - like exercise, FASTING - to heal and rejuvenate, etc.
However, there's often not much in the way of PROFIT in these easily accessible and effective alternatives (actually PRIME choices - as in what is primarily available to each and everyone of us here on earth), compared with supplements, drugs, doctor visits, surgery etc.
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#188 · Posted: 8 Jun 2009 15:32
Is it a crime to change your mind?
Just like everything, you have to research it, some are easier than others, and some deserve a closer look, most don't. Once you get past the hype, if there is no substance, value, quality, etc., then I will say so and pass on it. Since I am not far from Ideal Health, I visited home office and was quite impressed with people and research backing their nutritional products. When I first saw the Trump name being hyped, it didn't impress me or move me to think he was really involved, after all, he had just hyped ACN on the Apprentice TV show he is on. His name didn't impress me for I thought he was paid another million to promote Ideal Health like he was ACN. The company behind deal, the people, the quality of products, the reputation of people, this is why I had a change of mind.
As to RXCut, I did more research, and although I had a problem with how I was contacted by corporate, I asked them how they got my name, and I got the usual, I was referred to them, but they wouldn't tell me by who? Long story short, I was put under VVV as sponsor since this was how I learned about them. If not for a large fundraiser I was working with for Child-Shield-USA childrens abductions safety and education program, I would have just passed on it, but hey, since I put all the research into it already, and company liked idea of offering Free RX Card, I changed my mind. I don't see it as a big money maker or stand alone, but as a fundraiser, it makes more sense. Having worked with non-profit charities, and having checked out company, it made sense, so I changed my mind as I often do after completing my due diligence.
Is it a crime to change ones mind after further researching a specific business? I let my first impressions guide me, but then I spend a lot of time researching who is behind company, so when Trump's name was first thrown about, and knowing how his name was misused by the MLM industry in the past, I didn't believe what I was hearing at first. Knowing he didn't like MLM ten years ago when Marla Maples was in my downline, along with her parents, Donald would just laugh at thought of MLM. Given his success, I counldn't believe he was going into the MLM industry, shocked was a more accurate response knowing he was never interested in MLM until recently. Guess old Donald changed his mind too. LOL
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#189 · Posted: 8 Jun 2009 18:34 · Edited by: USA1950
WARRANTIES4LESS: Also sad to say, most nutritional products are not backed by independent long term blind test studies, so as I see it, any nutritional company is a target, even one with Trump's name attached to it. If you research the so called designer nutritional programs out there, those who state they will take a blood test, hair sample, urine, saliva, etc, and you send it in, and they will tell you what you need is BS[i][/i].
WARRANTIES4LESS: Personally, I don't care who Trump is, his name is not going to make people successful, especially in MLM, and as for Ideal Health, it is fact that so called custom nutritional plan is BS. First, several companies have tried this, and none have been that successful, so already the BS is spreading that this is the first time custom testing for vitamin pills for each person is being promoted.
WARRANTIES4LESS: Since I am not far from Ideal Health, I visited home office and was quite impressed with people and research backing their nutritional products.
WARRANTIES4LESS: Long story short, I was put under VVV as sponsor since this was how I learned about them
Let's try, you found out about CutRX thru Intelatrader. People just need to go back and read previous conversations about it on here.
WARRANTIES4LESS: so I changed my mind as I often do after completing my due diligence.
Maybe it should have been done before you made your first statement quoted above........ LOL LOL LOL !!!!!!!
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#190 · Posted: 8 Jun 2009 19:28 · Edited by: USA1950
Hey Mike: You missed this one while doing your due diligence LOL LOL
As long as your reading that one try this one also:
http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/privatest.html
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#191 · Posted: 8 Jun 2009 23:37
LOL, same difference as you well know, and as to quack Barrett, he claimed acupunture was quackery, as well as magnetic therapy, and these both have since been proven to be valid methods of assisting in the healing process.
If you really want to go tit for tat, be my guest, Barrett is the quack, so do a little research rather than looking at his opinion. He is an old retired psychiatrist who has no medical backgorund, and certainly devoid of any nutritional expertise, so tell me, would you go to him for a health issue, or would you go to him for mental health?
Give me a break, he is more a quack than half the things he reports on. Did you know he was a paid consultant of drug industry? You won't find a single negative statement on any drugs on his sight, even those recently proven dangerous and pulled off market by FDA, so you tell me what his agenda is, he is hired gun for drug industry who has been attacking nurtritional companies for years.
Granted, anyone can point out pure scams, but since he has lost many law suits over his antics, makes you wonder how an old retired shrink can afford attacking health companies and nutritional products if not paid off by drug companies. LOL LOL LOL
On a final note, Ideal Health Lab. has CLIA, so do a little more research and by all means, come on back and show us all how smart you think you are. Your tit for tat is getting a little tired, and to think this forum is on warranties, so what are you trying to prove? You have turned this forum thread into an attack on anthing I post, why is that? Maybe you need to consult Barrett. LOL LOL LOL
Go ahead, check it out, I could show you dozens who have opinions on Barrett. Yes, I did my due dilligence and know better to believe anyone who has a web site like Barrett. I visited lab first hand, what did you do, a search on web, and that was your due dilligence? And for what, to attack me for changing my opinion, something Barrett never does. LOL LOL LOL
Remember, for every opinion, there will always be a counter opinion.
http://www.raysahelian.com/quackwatch.html
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USA1950
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#192 · Posted: 10 Jun 2009 19:51
Why bounce your nonsense back into my lap. You're the one coming out here making yourself sound like some sort of Guru. Who posted the URL from the quack in the first place. You did when you put down Trump program and how it was BS in your words "so called designer nutritional programs out there, those who state they will take a blood test, hair sample, urine, saliva, etc, and you send it in, and they will tell you what you need is BS". All you did was Internet Research to find that info. I follow up with another posting from the same quack and then you change your tune with yet another Internet Research item to counter your own first posting. So who is fooling who now...... LOL LOL !!!!
Your right this was a thread on WFL, which went to crap, then Intelatrader, which pretty much joined WFL. Thank God Phil can't get his hands into Trump Network. They probably already got his number.....
Got outside word that Diamond Jr is going out on his own. That was interesting to hear..... Probably why nothing has been coming out from PP lately about Intelatrader. One of the main characters said so long......... Good for him.........
Well, I won't waste my time with you anymore, if anyone has been reading this at all, they will decide on their own what course of action to take and will do their own due diligence and not take anyone else word when it comes to investing their time and money in any Internet Venture.............
Have a great day folks and happy hunting............. Don't take any wooden nickels......
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