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FREEBUSINESSES Forums Member
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#21 · Posted: 19 Dec 2009 10:01
Curious,
Any updates from those in TWR, been quiet on this thread, anyone get paid, see any results yet?
Happy Holidays to all,
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TJamMoneyMan Forums Member
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#22 · Posted: 29 Dec 2009 20:19
TWRPS is doing fine. Of course there are 'results', Of course we are getting paid!
If you have a specific question put it out there, that would make this thread a little less 'quiet'!
You can join for FREE for 14 days, so that's the best way to find out more.
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#23 · Posted: 30 Dec 2009 12:16
Thanks,
I had joined as I beta test them all, and paid a couple months, promoted it the same as I always do with beta testing response rates, and sadly, the usual same results, zip. The hiccup when site went down and payment portal issue or hacking, whatever the excuse scared off the freebies which signed up as none upgraded. too bad too, I like the video which exposes all the lies the guru's use, too bad, hope some do better than I saw.
Happy Healthy and Wealthy New Year To All,
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#24 · Posted: 31 Dec 2009 20:37
FREEBUSINESSES: I had joined as I beta test them all, and paid a couple months, promoted it the same as I always do with beta testing response rates, and sadly, the usual same results, zip. I am curious as to what it is u joined and promoted. What the 'beta test' was.
If your 'usual same results' are 'zip', there is something wrong with your marketing. I have been able to get SOMETHING even from some of the scammiest sites, and I am still just past 'newbie' status.
It ain't the car it's the DRIVER!
'Freebie' people won't get very far in anything if they expect anything to be marketed for them. And I'll grant that often the hype makes you think just that!
But I'd rather have one hard working marketer in my downline, than a hundred 'freebie' types that expect things to be done for them. So it's good when the 'freebies' drop out.
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#25 · Posted: 31 Dec 2009 23:26 · Edited by: FREEBUSINESSES
The point is, I test using the same email campaign, same posts and same traffic SEO strategies, and then I evaluate results over three months to see if it is a keeper or not, simply really, and accurate given I an consistant. I saw no one upgraded, and only 42 registered, and sadly, that is about the same with all these deals.
So how are you doing? Did you have any conversions to paid users from the freebie 14 day trial? I agree, freebie offers just don't seem to work when they offer free trial, these type of offers just never seem to convert, so I hope it works for you, haven't found anyone with positive results yet, that is why I was curious.
Happy Healthy and Wealthy New Year To All,
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TJamMoneyMan Forums Member
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#26 · Posted: 2 Jan 2010 21:19
I'll be giving it more than three months!
There is a great forum, and two excellent marketing plans to follow.
I am not really in a position right now to market the way I'd like.
But you have to give things time. Most anything that pays off big, in a short period of time is going to pop and drop anyway.
I think the marketers who say it depends on your marketing strategy are correct. I have had conversions with plans that couldn't compare to TWRPS, so I am not worried.
It's a learning experience for me.
I know any good marketer would do well with TWRPS. And there is a forum of folx who are there to help you.
You have to give it time...
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#27 · Posted: 18 Jan 2010 18:31
If it wasn't for TWRPS i think i would have jacked trying to make a living online with network marketing i've been in another company before that promise plenty of help and support and i got zero help from my upline,but Twrps is different they always on hand and the forum there is awesome plenty of help and advice from great guys and girls there,And i'm making money after 1 month with TWRPS,not many companies can compare to this if any.
Thanks
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#28 · Posted: 5 Mar 2010 23:09
I think Im with "FREEBUSINESSES" on this one.
I too tried TWRPS as an experiment. It was easy to get the free signups in the beginning but only about 5% of the downline of around 180 ended up paying. I basically made a couple of bucks in the first couple of months, but as expected the people started dropping out slowly and it wasn't easy to get signups.
So I would have to say I am now finished with monthly payment programs and I am now concentrating on making money with Adsense as it seems it's the only thing that will have long term success (for me) and doesn't require recruiting anyone.
I will continue to promote my 1 time payment programs as it's all profit from here on out, but no more monthly payment programs for me.
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#29 · Posted: 6 Mar 2010 11:54
Interesting,
Looks like some are breaking even at least, but after all these months I haven't seen anyone post that they were honestly making any decent money worth the expense in promoting it. Sadly, most never earn more than the burn trying to promote these kind of information based deals and with attrition so high with everyone looking to save money, not spend or waste it, I doubt this one will see even a year before dying on the vine.
Success to all,
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TJamMoneyMan Forums Member
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#30 · Posted: 14 Mar 2010 18:31
LOL!
I think TWRPS will be around for quite a while, and work for those who are willing to put the time and effort in. I can't see it as being of any less value than many programs that have survived 'the test of time'.
It's a hosting plan with an affiliate program, like so many others online. I see no reason it won't be around for quite some time.
Personally however, I have found a better hosting plan at AcademyTeamSolutions.com. And I actually came across this plan from folks I met at TWRPS.
So you'll have to ask someone else about their success with TWRPS!
To me ATS is just a better deal, with UNlimited hosting, bandwith, autoresponders, contact lists, etc. etc.
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#31 · Posted: 7 Jul 2010 06:44
AcademyTeamSolutions.com ?
Is this still going ?
I tried to open the website and got nothing.
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FREEBUSINESSES Forums Member
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#32 · Posted: 7 Jul 2010 08:52
busoppreviews: AcademyTeamSolutions.com Not a good sign when a hosting companies site does not come up, and this is a lesson everyone should learn, never go with a hosting company which is also an income opportunity, other than an affiliate program is my best advice.
When it comes down to hosting, go with the mainstream companies which will not disappear and leave you in the dark like it appears AcademyTeamSolutions has. This one didn't even last a few months as I see it. Oh well, lesson learned.
Success to all,
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#33 · Posted: 7 Jul 2010 10:58
Yeah, I wasn't able to find much about either. Maybe someone still involved will enlighten us???
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TJamMoneyMan Forums Member
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#34 · Posted: 7 Jul 2010 19:33 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
weeelll... ATS went belly up!
Scam, sorry to say. In that they just got fed up, according to member's reports, and closed down the site! This right AFTER, they got my $20 monthly fee!
Scam!
You/I can thank owner/promoters David Wakeman, and Matthew Green.
TWRPS seems to still be going strong. I think you can promote it successfully. This is not the first 'teamwork' website offer for the website owner. TWRPS is an improvement apparently from the 'teamwork' they offered before, so I think TWRPS will be around a while.
But web-hosting with an affiliate plan will always cost more than plain web-hosting. ATS had a great email campaign feature, in addition to hosting, but it just didn't last.
I would say that you should REALLY be satisified with the entire website offer, so that should the website go down, you at least got your money's worth.
A LOT of sites are looking to add 'hosting' to their offer BUT, these affiliate hosting sites I notice, frequently go DOWN - however temporarily. Some lose data!!
That's unacceptable, especially if you are using your site to make money!
Kinda makes GDI - having been around for more than 12 years, look a little better doesn't it?
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#35 · Posted: 7 Jul 2010 20:50 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
FREEBUSINESSES: Again, I cannot think of one that is able to sustain constant growth for more than a year, 18 months at most, so please, if anyone can think of a forced matrix build on hype that is over a year, let me know. Can't say how 'constant growth' they are, but supereden.com has been around 2 years at LEAST!
There are others I know for a fact that are still going. If you're still interested, I can list more - but it'll involve some search on my part to find the proper urls.
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#36 · Posted: 8 Jul 2010 11:32
I don't think I can trust any of these programs anymore. I have just seen TOO many close or go belly up or whatever. I'm really tired of it.
I mean I don't think TJ is a scammer by any means, but if I had joined ATS on his recommendation I would be mad at him for recommending what turned out to be a scam. So now how can anyone trust any future recommendation ? It's a dangerous business isn't it ?
In saying that, I learned a lot while I tried out these schemes and they were all stepping stones to my website business. I'm glad I tried them but in my humble opinion if you try to build a business around these things you are building a business with sand. Perhaps GDI is the only one that can be trusted to stay in it for the long haul as they have been around for so long and are a publicly traded company, but even still I make really good money with my websites and best thing is they are rock solid stable. They don't depend on other people to succeed - just me.
I wonder TJ - what program have you been with the longest ? Because from my experience it seems people just keep jumping from program to program. Have you actually found something good and stuck with it for years ? You mention GDI, so are you in that ? If so for how long (just curious)
Thanks
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#37 · Posted: 11 Jul 2010 23:43 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
busoppreviews: I mean I don't think TJ is a scammer by any means, but if I had joined ATS on his recommendation I would be mad at him for recommending what turned out to be a scam. So now how can anyone trust any future recommendation ? It's a dangerous business isn't it ? Understandable!
But like any biz, you'll have to do some weeding.
You'll eventually develop a substantial customer list. Let them know how the programs are going, and which are good/bad. You can also give them special offers and valuable eproducts that you naturally accumulate as an online marketer.
That'll help ease the growing/learning pain$ of weeding! And hopefully repair your reputaion somewhat.
busoppreviews: In saying that, I learned a lot while I tried out these schemes and they were all stepping stones to my website business. I'm glad I tried them but in my humble opinion if you try to build a business around these things you are building a business with sand. Yes, we all have to go through this 'learning process', so any serious marketer will understand, I have found out. This too helps to improve your customer list.
But some of these sites do stick around for quite a while.
ECG for one, is a simple website offering I like, that really only costs $5. The website does all the work for you.
You will get that $5 back very quickly and the rest is profit.
Websites already setup, and automated, can be a valuable resource, as the online marketer learns his craft.
A 'learning process' after all!
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