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vernon dillon Forums Member
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#81 · Posted: 9 Aug 2007 20:03
thank you for the response im sorry i have been out of town and just returned. we have developed a new auto enroll redirect follow up program that is realy working for alot of business. and it is producing between 15 - 20 incredable leads per day. because funtime is a support system for alot of different types of business this new system can be used by anyone. and any business can take advantage of the use of the products and the residual income plan. to help build there business. thanks for your time
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asskusabouttrav Forums Member
Joined: 6 Jun 2007 Posts: 152
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#82 · Posted: 10 Aug 2007 17:38
Hello Everyone
I wanted to post something about my experience using Funtimes Autoresponder. First off let me say that Funtime is by far the best decision that I have made for my business since I started. Providing me with quality leads and a residual income that far outweighs the costs involved.
What I am able to do now is drive qualified leads into my Coastal system (COA in my case). These leads are, by the time I call them, double opt in leads or double/triple optin movie leads. For those of you who do not understand what that means. Simply put, those are the kind of leads most of us have in past paid up to 10 dollars for.
What Funtimes amazing support staff and system have done for me is this. They put my 40,000 leads into a generic campaign (10 Emails) describing a business opportunity. To get more information the lead clicks a link in that email driving them into my Coastal system which starts a Coastal campaign from there. They are then directed to watch my movie, profile etc. It is usually at this point that I call them up. And go through my standard qualifying (script).
There is more than one campaign in place with Funtime now covering alot of different business opportunities. Coastal(COA,CSG,WCYS etc), YTB, Nutronix, Vemma, ECgold just to name a few.
This is something that is still very new and of course with new technology comes a hiccup or two but the support staff at Funtime are constantly working to make this system better and better foe each of us.
My system seems to be generating an average of 15-20 leads a day at this point and I could not be happier.
As always gang you will get nothing but the truth from me so having said that I have to add. There are some folks not seeing the kind of results that I am. The technical staff is working diligently on these issues and will have them resolved very soon.
I assure everyone that your patience WILL be rewarded by the kind of quality leads we all want and that I have described here.
For those of you who are not involved yet I urge you to take a look at this amazing program.
For those who are involved I look forward to hearing all of your success stories.
To Your Success
Sean
Aviva Steele & Sean Keely Level 3 Directors CV FTV SE Distributors Expect Your Success Marketing
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decker2006 Forums Member
Joined: 6 Jan 2007 Posts: 222
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#83 · Posted: 11 Aug 2007 12:24
I have to add a few things here.
OK, I am coming out of the closet so to speak. I joined Funtime on July 1. As you know from these boards, I have been pretty leary about this whole thing from the beginning. I think the whole way this was introduced to us was not a good way to position the opportunity. Maybe Rusty should hire me to be his PR person because once you get through the mess that happened on these boards, one has to take a look at what they promised. So I did and IF what they promised actually happens, then it is well worth the investment.
At the end of the day, I had to ask myself this: how many optins was I getting into my COASTAL WCYS back office? This is the crux of the whole issue. Because I could BUY 40,000 for less and load them into Contacttalk. But there is no guarantee that the leads actually end up in my back office. With Funtime leads, at least they have seen my WCYS autoresponder and yes, these are the type of leads people pay big bucks for. They have seen my site, they have seen my movie and they are getting my autoresponder. BEFORE I ever make a phone call. This takes a business opportunity to a new level.
This has not been an easy journey in the past 41 days. It was not working for us and other WCYS people for whatever reason. Believe me, I understand why people quit a home based business because it is not easy to be patient. We were definately the beta group and took our lumps. We did not get into this simply for the 40,000 leads. The reason we were fustrated with Funtime is because the leads did not end up in our WCYS back office as promised.
Things have finally turned the corner. We are seeing a significant change. We had 33 optins yesterday and we already have 17 today and it is only noontime. We are seeing people hit the site 3 and 4 times. So these are people that are definately interested. THIS is why we joined Funtime.
You'll notice there have been limited posts about Funtime over the past month. That is because for some of us Coastal people it simply did not work. I was about to throw in the towel to be perfectly honest. Because Coastal is my main business, Funtime HAD to come through to promote Coastal. Yes, there are additional benefits to Funtime and quite frankly it can be positioned as an outstanding companion to Coastal. But COASTAL is my focus. I want to see optins in to my back office. THAT is what I am paying for - not leads, not vouchers.
But now that the optin side is working, there are ways to make additional income with the vouchers - but to me, that is just an added bonus. Coastal is still where the big bucks are.
So, to cut through all the mess that has been posted in the past few months, Funtime is working and I am glad I made the decision to join. It IS actually working as promised. If you are looking for ways to get people into your back office, if you have been frustrated with PPC, if you are sick of paying big bucks for garbage leads, Funtime may actually be something to consider.
If there are any changes the statements I just made, I promise you that you will hear it from me first. If it doesn't work, you will know about it.
Noreen
PS - If you are skeptical, send me a PM because I will tell it like it is. I was probably the most skeptical person out there.
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luvtravel Forums Member
Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 812
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#84 · Posted: 11 Aug 2007 19:23
OKAY BUT! And here is where the skeptiscism enters.....
If each one of you are getting 40,000 leads it stands to reason that there has to be a lot of people receiving the EXACT SAME leads!!
About the EXACT SAME opprortunity!!
It sounds excellent in theory BUT!
I just had over 30 optins, I posted a lot of different FREE ads in different venues all FREE and wondered wow where is the ad working to draw in that many optins at once and what did I say... I am still researching..
Terri
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decker2006 Forums Member
Joined: 6 Jan 2007 Posts: 222
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#85 · Posted: 11 Aug 2007 21:15
Well Terri,
More power to ya! I never got that response from my efforts from day one. I tried free clasified ads, and spent over $300 per month on ppc and maybe saw 5 on a good day. These were listed on the first page of yahoo and google. Maybe, you know something we don't know. If you are getting 30 optins per day, than great. I was not getting that. Keep it up. Maybe you would like to share your success story with the rest of us who would love to see that kind of return for free.
Noreen
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asskusabouttrav Forums Member
Joined: 6 Jun 2007 Posts: 152
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#86 · Posted: 11 Aug 2007 21:36
Not everyone using funtime is working with Coastal Terri. The ones that are have a choice of campaigns (COA, CSG, WCYS etc) The 40,000 leads I receive every month are mine. They are single opt in Business opportunity leads. I dont call all 40,000. I allow them to become more qualified by sending them the campaign if they click thru that campaign that tells me they are interested in what I have sent them. I too have posted ads all over the internet Terri (All Free) They generate hundreds of leads for me a month. None of them very qualified until I share more info with them. Dont get me wrong, each and every lead I have ever received has the same chance of joining my business. They are either interested or not. The trick is to work them into a lead that knows YOU and YOUR Business opportunity...Making them YOUR lead. There are occasions when I call someone and they say " You are the fifth person to call me" I simply respond "Maybe Im the one you've been looking for" That actually happened to me more often with CEM or MLM Leads Genie (1-10 dollars each) leads than it ever has with Funtime. Terri not every lead you or I generate is a good lead. we all know that. But what Funtime offers is a way to take a very generic lead and make it your own qualified lead. This in and of itself makes the Funtime program a way more cost effective way to create, in my case, double and triple opt in movie leads.
And hey! If it turns out that the lead looks at Coastal and its just not for them. Fine! but now I have made a connection with that person and can share the funtime opportunity or anything else I am involved in. One of my favorite quotes:
Dont be afraid to take that first step in faith, You dont have to see the whole staircase, just take the first step. Martin Luthr King Jr
Sean Keely
Aviva Steele & Sean Keely Level 3 Directors CV FTV SE Distributors Expect Your Success Marketing
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hsimpsonjr
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 603
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#87 · Posted: 12 Aug 2007 00:11
OK, folks, I have started getting my traffic again. Like Noreen and Bill, mine had come to a dead halt. The guys at Funtime have finally got it working like it did during that week and a half I was getting so many opt ins. NOW, I have to get into the swing of calling and converting them.
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luvtravel Forums Member
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#88 · Posted: 12 Aug 2007 06:35
Noreen, Thanks! Quite frankly I was surprised and delighted.
This taught me one thing, keep TRACK of every ad you put out there and where you place it!
I had designed several different ads and placed them in Craigs list and bunches of other free ads places. And suddenly there is this flood of optin's as opposed to when I had a generic lead page.
Personal opinion, I think since WCYS added the "actors" on the splash/lead page it made a lot of difference and I am very happy they did that.
As opposed to my other splash page from DFILive, it does not get any optin's or at very best trickle in maybe 2-3 a week.
I am very much going to add FT soon, BUT again I have to ask... if the SAME 40,000 leads are going out to everyone how can that work?
Terri
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luvtravel Forums Member
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#89 · Posted: 12 Aug 2007 06:42
Thanks Sean, good point about the other leads CEM etc.
I know this is probably a silly suggestion but I think that any company that generates leads should attempt to generate consumer leads that are looking to buy a timeshare or wanting to travel.
I just attended a fantastic seminar on marketing travel thru Joystar the agency I am with, they gave statstics of the demographice of consumers looking to travel, after all we are selling travel aren't we??
Now I am seeing this whole thing from a brand new prospective.
Terri
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decker2006 Forums Member
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#90 · Posted: 12 Aug 2007 09:56
Terri,
The deal is each person should be getting 40,000 DIFFERENT leads. Of course I cannot cross check every lead but I do know that the guy from Funtime that does the leads and back office is big in the lead generation world. My thought is that the people opting in and seeing my page are not seeing anyone else from Coastal via Funtime. And the people Bill has spoken with have not indicated they are bombarded by calls from Coastal directors. I guess the point is, I don't care so much about the 40,000, I care about the ones opting in. It's not like we are going to go through each and every one and call them. However, we HAVE taken the ones that have not opted in and added them to contact talk for 1 Coastal specific email. That has worked to generate even more optins. And that is what kept us going while things were down at Funtime.
Noreen
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hsimpsonjr
Joined: 16 Dec 2006 Posts: 603
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#91 · Posted: 12 Aug 2007 14:44
The main advantage for me is that now I have an autoresponder doing the work that I used to think I had time to do with Contact mate. That is the most advantageous part of the deal for me. Working a fulltime job makes it difficult to run Contact mate sometimes simply because it's not a plug and play program. It takes time to get it and keep it running even though it works well when it runs.
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ateamfuntimer
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 757
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#92 · Posted: 12 Aug 2007 20:24
I look at it this way. A lead is a lead is a lead. Whether you are talented enough to generate them online yourself or have to pay someone to help generate them or you. What matters is what you do when you get them on the phone. Fun Time Vacation Club is a no brainer. At the top level its $299 for 40,000 leads, a b/o with an autoresponder and the ability to market travel vouchers for profit or as incentives. The lowest level in FTV is the basic level and that cost about $40 a month. Just about anyone can afford that. But again it comes down to what you say to the person when you get them on the phone. I get the person on the phone and just share my information. It's that simple.
For the past months ive been able to generate my own leads as I have started making lead capture pages. But I still like the fact FTV gives me 40,000 leads a month. I usually get from 15 to 20 opt ins a day. Now as I see it everyone is interested in travel so these are great leads. But again I think its important to be diversified and learn how to generate your own leads as well. The leads ive been generating have been calling me and thats always best.
How am I finding them you ask. Its been my capture pages. I learned alot from watching other leaders in here. They have had these pages out there forever. Look at it this way. When someone just goes to your site there is no way to capture their info even if they are on the site for hours. With the capture pages I can have their info and then direct them to my website. It works for me. In the last few days ive been sending out capture pages of specials to my opt-ins via email. I will even be sending them capture pages that direct them to a page where they can buy the specials on the spot. I will be sure to keep everyone up to date on this.
Adam
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luvtravel Forums Member
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#93 · Posted: 13 Aug 2007 06:12
Noreen, That's a lot of leads, are the 40,000 leads generic bizop?
What will be interesting is the conversion rate of the optin's.
Terri
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luvtravel Forums Member
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#94 · Posted: 13 Aug 2007 06:16
Quoting: ateamfuntimer At the top level its $299 for 40,000 leads, a b/o with an autoresponder and the ability to market travel vouchers for profit or as incentives. The lowest level in FTV is the basic level and that cost about $40 a month. J
Interesting, so the prospect (optin) is than switched from Coastal to FunTime bizop?
Is the lead generation splash page generic? And does it offer the "complimentary vacation" to respond?
Terri
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decker2006 Forums Member
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#95 · Posted: 13 Aug 2007 10:09
Terri,
Yes, they are generic bizop leads. Conversion rate will be interesting and of course critical. But we have found so far with people that we have called, they are open and interested. Of course, it helps that they are in the autoresponder and are receiving information. Since some of them may not ever have even heard about Coastal, they may have to warm up to the idea.
The first email they get is completely generic. But you can edit to say whatever you want it to say. I am just using their generic email, but I will probably tweak it a bit. But I don't want to change anything now that the darn thing is finally working!!
Noreen
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ateamfuntimer
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#96 · Posted: 13 Aug 2007 13:06
Hey Terri,
Thanks for the questions. Let me see if I can explain the system and how it works. First I receive 40,000 leads imported into my FTV back office. They are then started in the auto responder system. This system has two parts. The before and the after we will call them. The before campaign can either me a generic biz opt campaign or a FTV campaign. Both work for me as I look at it this way. The generic allows you to call people and market any biz opt. You can offer a vacation voucher as an incentive to get them to your site. I see on your WCYS site you do that with offering a vacation voucher. So the system and process is similar. The FTV campaign is for a free membership to the FTV travel club. This just means they can get deals on travel is all. It also talks about a few specials that are going one ( 16 yr anniversary special 13 days in florida and bahamas for 2 people for $498) . The after campaign can be specific to many different biz opts. Coastal being one of them. So the leads become more qualified as time goes on and they receive the a/r campaigns. I look at it this way. A lead is a lead is a lead. Once I get them on the phone I offer them the free membership to look at my Coastal opt page. If Coastal is too pricey for them them I have FTV and Inteletravel as back up programs.
I hope that helps but if you are more confused then just IM or call me and ill go over it.
Adam
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luvtravel Forums Member
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#97 · Posted: 13 Aug 2007 17:05
Thanks Adam and Noreen. No that about covers all my questions.
Terri
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decker2006 Forums Member
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#98 · Posted: 14 Aug 2007 13:05
If you want to do a fundraiser or a customer appreciation day with a client Fun Time Vacations is a very viable option. Many of the vacation certs are booked in house so you never have to worry about blackout dates or long processing times. In addition you also make a commission as the participants activate
Adam,
What vacations would you use for fundraisers and silent auctions? Or anyone else want to throw some ideas around? I have a football fundraiser and a soccer fundraiser coming up and and can probably use a number of vacations in raffles and silent auctions.
Noreen
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hsimpsonjr
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#99 · Posted: 15 Aug 2007 14:50
Update on Funtime Autoresponder. The leads are turning out to be responsive. I haven't called any of the new batch yet but I will tonight since the wife and kids are at the beach so me and the Jack Russel Terrior are gonna be on the phone tonight but I have actually gotten 3 callback requests from the leads that are clicking the link so if I can get at least one or two conversions from these leads a month then I will be happy. I'll keep everyone updated.
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Renee Forums Member
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#100 · Posted: 16 Aug 2007 23:31
I love my 40,000 leads a month -- even more after tonight's call. I just sent my 200000+ leads an e-mail telling them to be sure to be on next Thursday night's call. Rusty just introduced a new leads program that is going to change my life! I am excited about how all of this is unfolding. Be sure to get on the call next Thursday night (I hope it can hold us all). They will be revealing all the rest of the details of this new program that will bring ALL of the calls to you -- that's right, your phone will be ringing with PREMIUM leads. I can't wait!
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