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FreeCashMan Forums Member
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#1 · Posted: 29 Jul 2010 12:18
Here's a new make money in Travel biz, with a one-time pay matrix cycler I ran across the other day.
I'm not one for putting down any particular biz, but how's this not along the same lines as the TVI Express Travel short-term thrill but with a faster cycling matrix set up?
I was presented this in contrast to building monthly residual with a low cost opportunity. The challenge, amongst other things, is that I can't find one long-term thriving and on going monthly residual cashflowing one-time pay cycler that exist, like the proven monthly residual comp-plan style opportunities since the birth of Amway, Avon, Mary Kay, Pre-paid Legal, ACN, Melaleuca, etc. (not that I recommend those).
Are Cycler programs, just like roll coaster thrill rides? Nothing like a good roller coaster when you are young, but I don't find them thrilling now that I'm older and wiser.
I saw another one yesterday that was a 2x1. Now that's fast cash, and thought hey that may really be great, but then quickly came to my senses. All that one seems to get out of these cyclers, that are one-time pay is fast cash, for those that are able to bring a "crowd".
I'm not calling them scams, but these travel certificate 2 x 2 (or whatever) are starting to remind me of the ad surfing program (sic), except you can't invest unlimited money, and thus be subject to a ponzi scheme.
If you want monthly residual income to pay the monthly residual bills you have to commit to monthly residual input to get the output. One time pay programs are like playing the lottery one-time and hoping you hit the jackpot (you know the odds of that happening).
FYI, One-time pay Cyclers are essentially straight-line downline systems, with break away lines (matricies) to repeat the same thing over. No opportunity can bring in enough people to continually push all those piling in prior to the "last people" out (to the point of cashing out over and over indefinitely to generate monthly residual income), thus the power of residual pay for residual income. You are continually empowered (cashed out) by those that are in, and that may join in the future, and not just by those that newly join.
So BonVoyage is "Real", at this moment, but understand the "Deal".
http://www.bonvoyage1000.com/
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wrkathomeunited Forums Member
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#2 · Posted: 29 Jul 2010 13:55
i am a bit confused on how this program works??? please enlighten me
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mountainmom5
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#3 · Posted: 29 Jul 2010 21:51
FreeCashMan: If you want monthly residual income to pay the monthly residual bills you have to commit to monthly residual input to get the output. Yes... and for MANY, the input is considerably more than the output for a loooong time.
Been there done that. Even have a t-shirt.
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FreeCashMan Forums Member
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#4 · Posted: 29 Jul 2010 23:29 · Edited by: FreeCashMan
So true, for the traditional mlm or more so the traditional mlm comp-plan model. The internet changed the game. Just a matter of finding that one. It's tough but they do exist and come along. GDI is a primarily example, 10 years strong. (not in GDI).
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FREEBUSINESSES Forums Member
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#5 · Posted: 1 Aug 2010 19:32
Interesting,
With the 2X2 follow me cycle deals popping up every day, all following the success of TVI scam, it makes me wonder why? Most people never got more than a useless IOU voucher in TVI, yet hundreds of thousands threw their $200.00 plus dollars into that scam.
Now I see several more starting, so obviously they are trying to pick up where TVI left hundreds of thousands hanging, so are these same people going to throw more money at these deals with no valid product. Just look at the thousands who jumped in on MPB deal, another IOU voucher deal, but this time for groceries.
Well, we know people love these small matrix deals or they would not be throwing money at them, so if that is what people like, then I agree, the plan is fine, but with all I have seen, the product is not, if a product even exists at all. Vacation vouchers can be purchased for a few bucks, and since few even care about redeeming them, the scam can last longer, a strategy all these scam deals count on.
With 2X2 follow me deals the rage, TamPogo just added it as an option, but backed with real verified value products, totally different than the IOU deals. So I suspect we will all be seeing tons of these 2X2 matrix deals since so many jump on them, but ask yourself, if not for the income opportunity, would you throw $200. plus at a deal with nothing more than an IOU?
Success to all,
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ibuzzmentor Forums Member
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#6 · Posted: 3 Aug 2010 00:27
Seriously all these travel businesses are popping up like crazy. The market is way too saturated with them. From the big ticket ones GRN, Resorts 360, MOR vacations, to the smaller ones like primo, or this one, or even the new one created by Ibuzz pro. Can someone please think of something unique. At least if you going to join a cycler make it be something that truly appeals to the masses like MPB today that is backed by the top mlm legal authority out there.
Chris
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FreeCashMan Forums Member
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#7 · Posted: 3 Aug 2010 01:52
IbuzzPro started a travel biz oppty? You gotta be kidding me!!!
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ibuzzmentor Forums Member
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#8 · Posted: 10 Aug 2010 15:03
Yeah it is a 200 dollar program. I think it is called ITN. Can people please come up with something unique out there? So many voicebroadcasting, travel, and personal development companies out there to make you sick. They are all just undercutting and killing one another. At least MPB Today is moving real fast and doesnt have much competition. I am sure a knock off will come out real fast though.
Chris
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FreeCashMan Forums Member
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#9 · Posted: 11 Aug 2010 00:28 · Edited by: FreeCashMan
I don't think it is about have something that is unique because having the greatest product does not equal a successful home business network opportunity. Unfortunately too many people have been duped into thinking it all about the product. History shows that is absolutely not correct. It's actually about the power of the comp-plan to take the average person and create for them a sustainable income, ideally monthly since we have monthly residual bills
People achieve home business network marketing success because of their own commitment, consistency, along with a team or company that provides training with a viable comp-plan that gives everyone a fair chance to succeed and reach substantial income (monthly). Granted those things don't often find themselves in the average biz oppty.
There are plenty of the same types of business in various industries. The issues here, regarding the cycler comp-plan, is just a question of a sustainable long term business model for generating monthly residual income for a company that uses such a comp-plan.
The one-time pay cycler comp-plan was designed to create monthly residual income from a one time pay. It does not do that and history says it never will by the nature of the way the comp-plan functions.
Accordingly, the issue raised is not if the one-time pay cycler comp-plan can make people money at any specific point in time, but its effectiveness as a long term income producing system.
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drknlvly6781 Forums Member
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#10 · Posted: 12 Aug 2010 13:50
Absolutely right FreeCashMan. In network marketing, I believe it is more about the uniqueness and the learnability of the marketing plan a company has, not the product. The better marketing training a company has, the more people will be attracted to it.
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