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federline
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#141 · Posted: 28 Sep 2007 06:02
Unfortunately being new to internet maketing I got suckered by all the positive UWP testimonials I came across and bought it.
I wish i had seen this site before making my decision.
It does seem strange that whilst the majority of people did not make any money and demaned a refund that some people still maintain they are making money out of the UWP.
I have now followed the advice of how to get your money back, and after completing the cancellation process with midphase recieved a confirmation saying I would get my money back in 3-5 days, strange how when I signed up they managed to take the money immediately.
I am still looking to find a way of eraning some extra cash to pay the bills so if anybody can recommend a system that works I would be grateful.
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#142 · Posted: 28 Sep 2007 06:25 · Edited by: LuckyRon
My motto is "keep your money in your pocket and your fingers on the key board" If you really want to build a business then you need a product or a service. If I see one more website with pictures of a Mansion, Expensive Cars, People on Vacation, Piles of Free Money or Some Jerk claiming he has the Secret to Success i'm going to puke!
If they really think your going to make money then they should be willing to take a percentage of your profits as payment. That's how real businesses work. You make money for the owner and he gives you some. If you want your own business then create one. Nobody is going to sell you a million dollar business for $50 bucks.
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bigmoney74
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#143 · Posted: 28 Sep 2007 07:43
wish i would have found this site sooner. i to purchased the "pro plan with UWP. i am very new to all this i just started about a week ago and was not aware of all the different ways to make money on the net. anyway. for a begginner the site did give me loys of info with all the e-books that it came with, it was hard to setup and confusing. but im getting the hang of it. but after what i have read i will probably opt for a refund, its just so hard i spent the las week reading and reading and playing with the site. one thing that i found out is that you can replace everything on the page with clickbank product which means you can take UWP of you site. it still has the banner but atleast it not one of your featured products. now i need some direction, i was full steam ahead with this site till i found this thread a coulple hours ago. oh! by the way they called my house yesterday for the mentoring program and all they did was ask me what credit cards did i have, how much debt i was in and how many cards did i have open with a zero balance which lead me ino further info into these guys and here i am. i talked with them for a lttle but they are going to call me today at10:00 so me and my wife can be on the phone to make a life changing decision. I dont think i will pick up the phone but apart of me wants to see what they are going to say. sorry for this dumb question but like i said im new to the game. i could get my own website and just market clickbank on it and get commission off that. suggestion would be appreciated, i just hit the wall and am lost.
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#144 · Posted: 28 Sep 2007 09:01
The problem is even Mike G is pushing just such a product now to those on his mailing list. One landing page of rich people but nothing about the product until you register and then you get hit with mega claims of making thousands of $ daily income from the product. If this is not hype I must be blind. Only the con men make this kind of money from us suckers.
Quoting: LuckyRon My motto is "keep your money in your pocket and your fingers on the key board" If you really want to build a business then you need a product or a service. If I see one more website with pictures of a Mansion, Expensive Cars, People on Vacation, Piles of Free Money or Some Jerk claiming he has the Secret to Success i'm going to puke!
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#145 · Posted: 28 Sep 2007 10:00 · Edited by: LuckyRon
This is a great forum and the moderator (Vishal) seems pretty cool. There are so many newbies getting ripped off that my greed reflex wants to go after them. After reading some of these posts i'm almost certain that these people have encountered Artificial Intelligence Programs pretending to be customer service. If you are new to being online you have alot to learn before you can expect to make any money and untill then you are just prey. Picture a rabbit in a wolf's den. Google "Chat Bot" you can chat for free with one of these programs. There are several, Alice is my favorite. The porn guys have some that are quite arousing for erotic text messaging. 
"Hey, at least I wasn't spanking to a fat guy smoking a cigar"
A.I. really is amazing!
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federline
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#146 · Posted: 28 Sep 2007 10:43 · Edited by: federline
LuckyRon
I am totally with you (as my daughter would say).
After just two weeks looking into making money on-line I have very quickly come to the conclusion do not trust anyone.
After I signed up to the UWP I was invited to apply for 1:1 coaching to maximise my profits. Apparently only the lucky few get selected.
Guess what I was one of the lucky few.
Then I get call from sone american women who said she wanted to check to see if I was the right sort of person whom they wanted on their coaching programme.
Yep you guessed it did I have ready available cash to part with is really what she meant.
I was successful in passing her test and was then put onto her director (err Salesman) who then used the tried and tested saying of "if Ican show you a way of making serious money will you sign up" (I thought that sales technique went out with ark).
Any way to cut a long sales pitch short his idea was to raise cash on my credit card to pay their fee up front of �2000, then sell stuff on eBay purchased through a drop shipper, this way I don't have to buy anything until I have sold it and the money I make each month covers my credit card bill, simple huh, fully guaranteed way of making money without having to risk anything.
oh apart from paying �2000 to some guy who has called me out of the blue who I don't know from adam.
Oh I forgot to mention even though Mark Warren sold him the lead he had no problem rubbishing the UWP and agreed that it does not work, but of couse his scheme does.
I am also very suspicious of the motives of a lot of people who sign up to and contribute to these chat forums.
I think there are quite few hidden agendas
The internet can be a cruel and harsh place to learn very expensive lessons.
I have'nt given up yet but I am learning fast, and I can see there is a lot learn.
By the way LuckRon any suggestions on how not to get scamed and make some money in the process
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#147 · Posted: 28 Sep 2007 15:26
Hi everyone i have also purchased it i have a question about everything ultimate wealth package has asked to buy .. such as adsense and clickbak affiliates and few other sites , Say you have purchased it .. (ahem i did)
can i still use that for other sites if i get a new one .. i have also sent emails to few of the sites requesting information but as you all know they dont help very much .. i have been reading this blog and have seeen alot and everyone seems to have alot of opinion on uwp, Can anyone tell me if you have stuck with the package.... have you got another site besides the crappy free site they gave us... and used ure adsense and pay per click there? is it working for you on your other sites?
help? .. lisa
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#148 · Posted: 29 Sep 2007 07:18
My advice is that if you are new to internet business then stay away from using adwords for the time being, unless you have a genuine done-all-that-and-became-a-millionaire-fairygodmentor who'll hold your hands.
Quoting: LisaBT Hi everyone i have also purchased it i have a question about everything ultimate wealth package has asked to buy .. such as adsense and clickbak affiliates and few other sites , Say you have purchased it .. (ahem i did) can i still use that for other sites if i get a new one .. i have also sent emails to few of the sites requesting information but as you all know they dont help very much .. i have been reading this blog and have seeen alot and everyone seems to have alot of opinion on uwp, Can anyone tell me if you have stuck with the package.... have you got another site besides the crappy free site they gave us... and used ure adsense and pay per click there? is it working for you on your other sites?
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#149 · Posted: 29 Sep 2007 12:38
i am learning and willing to try anything i wont be able to know if i dont try it and find out for myself even if i didnt have a fairy god mother to hold my hand ... i am sure noone has and they still succeed and just becuase i am new doesnt mean i cant try to succeed , I will try what ever but i will not just do what ever i feel like i will look into things from now on before taking out my credit card to pay for anything i have learnt my lesson there .. Just wondered if anyone kept using ther adsense and other sites they purchased after refunding UWP.
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#150 · Posted: 29 Sep 2007 13:27
Quoting: federline I am also very suspicious of the motives of a lot of people who sign up to and contribute to these chat forums.
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#151 · Posted: 30 Sep 2007 03:19
Im thinking im going to ask the UWP costumer service. If their program works so good then why are people people asking me to sign up for drop shipping. if im not mistaken you could set up a website and a account with a drop shipment company for less than the $2000.
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#152 · Posted: 30 Sep 2007 03:57
Federline,
You can email me. If you don't find my email in the profile just email me from my website. Don't laugh at my site. it is kind of an experiment in a way. I may be changing it soon or buying another URL for my latest project. If you look hard enough you can usually find what you need without spending much. Alot of resources are available FREE.
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#153 · Posted: 1 Oct 2007 00:22
The Ultimate Wealth Package is new to me as I just started but so far I have had no problems getting set up. Actually its quite simple!
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federline
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#154 · Posted: 1 Oct 2007 06:19
LuckyRon
I have taken up your offer and sent an email via your website.
I hope it gets to you okay.
Thanks.
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federline
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#155 · Posted: 1 Oct 2007 06:29 · Edited by: federline
LuckyRon
Not sure I went to the right site.
Tried www.luckyron.com but could not see any email address under contact us only postal address.
Tried the other site but not sure that the email will find its way to you as it was the main powermall site.
Which website should I use to contact you.
Thanks.
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bigmoney74
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#156 · Posted: 1 Oct 2007 13:07
Hey lucky ron, how is the power mall working out for you. i was thinking about signing up from your link but was woundering how long were you in it and have you made any mone from it.
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#157 · Posted: 1 Oct 2007 16:09
Hi there,
I too purchased the Ultimate wealth package and it is correct that many of those products follow similar lines, and this is a valid approach to making affiliate sales.
Richjerk or UWP package will provide you a road map to online sales, but you have to take action to make it work, it is not a get rich quick scheme.
UWP offers over 100 plus current products that you can promote. Many of them are available from a number of different sources, most I do not have at this time but, the sale of one product more than covers your costs.
"Nothing ventured nothing gained" they say.
www.dsingonlinebiz.net
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#158 · Posted: 2 Oct 2007 01:49
dsingh65 How long have you had the package? and have you made any money yet? i've had it for two weeks and am trying it to see what i can get out of it. no money yet.
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#159 · Posted: 2 Oct 2007 03:48
I think it is not bad, maybe worth a try.
Still, you should always consider also the more "traditional" way of finding a suitable comapny with outstanding products to sell.
But remeber: huge and slow moving companies with an endless product range can be the road to a dead end, especially as a beginner.
Don't try to sell cooking pots or cosmetics or household cleaners, since this is done by millions of others already. Forget mega-hype marketing juices with Not-To-Believe pay plans � they are too expensive and lack effectiveness.
Regards, Peter
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#160 · Posted: 2 Oct 2007 04:31 · Edited by: federline
I thought this tread had come to the conclusion that the UWP was a scam and did not make you anything.
Certainly this was my experience.
Well almost nothing amazingly I earned $20 in the first two days, which was quite incredible as I had not even set my site up.
My ultimate frustrtaion was with the on-line chat system; they had a tremendous knack of providing answers to questions i was not asking and not answering the questions I was asking.
I tried to get my money back but as with others this proved very difficult to impossible to do. (still waiting)
This in my mind makes their promise of a "guaranteed money back promise if you are not happy with this product" worthless which probably applies to all of the other pacakages which are all selling the same thing - nothing just dreams on how to become an internet marketing millionaire.
What they don't tell you is that you have to keep spending in order to make money.
The UWP, I4B, Profit Lance, Average Joe they are all variation of the sames theme.
I am still searching for the holy grail; a way to earn a few � working from home that does not involve selling e-books or becoming a referral site to make somebody else rich.
I will probably give up becuase there are so many scams out there that I am sure to run out of money before I find one.
It seems to me that the internet is full of people trying to prey on the naive; and without morality ripping people off then encoraging other people to rip people off because it is the only way they will get their money back.
Maybe I'm missing the point, or just naive, but as I understand these forums are for people voicing their opinion and this is mine.
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