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#81 · Posted: 14 Jun 2007 16:21
So I gather to stay away from UWP. I'm still thinking of getting Average Joe, he answered a question I had in 1 day. What other programs out there are just resellers of theirselves?
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jameszz
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#82 · Posted: 14 Jun 2007 17:22
It's a good program. Even if it is just reselling itself, you receive like $60 or so per sale? thats great, who cares if hes making money? you are too, and people will continue to buy it, its a good way to make money. You can make the money back in 2 sales, it's worth it in my opinion. It doesn't make it a scam if its reselling itself, you make money from it.
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#83 · Posted: 14 Jun 2007 18:06
To me if its only reselling itself and he makes it sound like your selling all these different products then it is a scam. Looking at his website it never says what your actually selling.
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workingfromhome
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#84 · Posted: 14 Jun 2007 19:56
thats true, it does advertise that way, but I guess it is just his product in the end.
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healingsprings
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#85 · Posted: 27 Jun 2007 01:53
Quoting: Bucky "I am glad to see that people are realizing what a scam Ultimate Wealth Package is."
Honestly speaking I think it is an unfair assessment to refer to the Mark warren Ultimate wealth package as a scam. This is a phenomenal wealth of information on internet marketing � covering virtually every thing on successful internet marketing. He has even gone as far as revealing his personal marketing strategies which may be considered throwing out to the public trade secretes. As I read the Ultimate Wealth and the accompanying e-books of the package, I was amazed at the top business secretes that were reveled in there.
The problem though is that a lot of us buy the package with the expectation of making the promised fortune from it sales (even without reading it), instead of reading, and applying the knowledge to build a successful online business. Of course it is possible to make money selling the Ultimate Wealth Package. In fact many have and are still making six figure in come from it sales. But there is no way the uninitiated in this business can effectively market the package without first reading the package it self to understand the strategies to apply for effective marketing of the product.
The dollar amount that one can make from the sales of the book is only a part of the multiple streams of in come that can be generated by applying the wealth of knowledge contained in the package.
But honestly it requires time and persistence. If you cannot seat down to read the package and apply the knowledge, you are not likely to find it useful. Also you must be must be prepared and have the patience to put up with a customer service that may not be the best.
From my personal experience, the package is the best compared to all others that I have tried so far, even though their support/customer service needs more attention.
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ebusnewbie
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#86 · Posted: 28 Jun 2007 02:24
I have recently purchased the Ultimate Wealth Package.
The company running the 'program' is either very dishonest , completely disorganized, or a mixture of both.
For anybody considering investing their hard earned money in the package , all I can say is read this first and then make an informed decision . If you rely on the testimonials that purportedly come from satisfied customers , all you are likely to read will be misleading and at times completely dishonest.
If you read the promotional material , as I did , you will more than likely be fairly impressed. Remember , it is promotional! They are trying to get you to buy. Umfortunately I took them at their word and spent $49.95 on the package and then another $49.95 on the vamped-up pro package which offers you so much more if you buy there and then. After signing up and accepting the offer of a free website , I was directed to midphase for website hosting services at a cost of $119.40 for the year. Whoever runs the Ultimate Wealth Package obviously takes an affiliates commission for every new sign-up , so again they persuaded me to give them money.
I heard nothing from them for a few days , then I recieved an email with nothing in it , I mean a blank email. They then sent an email telling me to sign up for pay per click advertising ,(no doubt they get a pay off from this too) but I couldn't buy ppc advertising until I had personalized my website . I sent so many emails to them asking for assistance with this that I lost count, eventually opting for the phone to try and sort things out, where I was talked through setting up a clickbank account(no doubt they get a pay off there too). Still not able to help as far as the website goes though.
I kept contacting them , still didn't recieve any reply after a week and then somebody from the company called me asking where I wanted to take my internet business, what were my goals for it ? Of course , like any normal person trying to start a business on the net , I said I wanted to give up my day job and make a really good living from e-commerce. I thought anybody signing up for 'The Ultimate Wealth Package' would probably be thinking similarly ,but apparently not. Apparently the pro package is for the 'Hobbyist' not the 'Pro' and I shouldn't expect much from it. That was a bit different from the advertising and promotional material that got me to buy in the first place , but I decided to hear the guy out and listened to him pitch a more comprehensive package that would make me money in no time at all. He was so convinced that this could make me money , he advised me to take out a new credit card to fund it , oh yes , the new package has an entry level of $5,000 to $10,000 , most people start at $20,000 or more I am told!
These sort of prices are way out of my league and having had no contact from the package providers advising me of what to do to start making money and how to personalise my website I decided to give it up. I contacted them and asked for a refund , only to be told(oh yes , they answered that one) that I can make as much money as I like ! Still no advise how to get started though! Again I asked for cancellation information , this time to be told I can only have a refund after trying the product for 60 days and providing proof after that period that it didn't work for me, which they say I won't be able to do because they know the system works . Catch 22!
The website is just a ploy to get you to sign up for midphase services and to promote the package as a whole to another group of unsuspecting buyers , perpetuating the whole thing. If you have any sense you will avoid it . If you get involved , you will become frustrated ,feel let down and ultimately if you do make any sales on the free website , create a bunch of misery for someone else .
I'm still looking for a decent business start up opportunity on the net , I'm sure there must be some out there but , Ultimate Wealth Package is definately not one of them. Anybody telling you that it is has a vested interest in it . Remember , everyone signed up is selling it on their free website.
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#87 · Posted: 30 Jun 2007 13:36 · Edited by: Dave B
I've just caught up with this post and it makes pretty grim reading...
UWP is the standard 'Guru scam' package.
If you want to make money online you have to bite the bullet. There is NO 'get rich quick'. It is a business like any other offline business. In many ways it's even harder...
I'm a member of Wealthy Affiliates and I don't hide that. Beating Adwords was mentioned in the title of this post...that's a WA product and is THE adwords bible IMO
If you want to make a real effort. And 'effort' is the word... check out WA and their family of products...
ALL their intro pages say the same thing... if you want it easy...sod off...but if you are prepared to work hard and learn... we'll help...
And they do...
I've got reviews of all the WA stuff on my blog. Check it out. I really don't care if you buy stuff or join WA via my links on there but please don't buy any more 'Guru crap'
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#88 · Posted: 5 Jul 2007 14:43
I HAVE JUST JOINED THE UWP AND I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS ACTUALLY MADE ANY MONEY FROM THE PACKAGE AFTER REALLY READING AND APPLYING WHAT WAS IN THE PACKAGE? THANKS
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ljwillette
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#89 · Posted: 7 Jul 2007 17:32
Well I wish I had found these posts before I purchased the UWP but right now I'm broke and all in this. Wish me luck.
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penway
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#90 · Posted: 7 Jul 2007 23:21
Quoting: ebusnewbie I have recently purchased the Ultimate Wealth Package. The company running the 'program' is either very dishonest , completely disorganized, or a mixture of both.
ebusnewbie, five days ago I basically followed your same twisted journey to the tune of $219.30. What a nightmare. Glad I found this site, maybe with Clickbank we can salvage something. This is the second internet scam pulled on me, but I am convinced there is legitimate money to be made on the web. I plan to come to this website with any new online business venture before taking the plunge. As Scarlett famously said, "There's always tomorrow."
Caveat Emptor and all that jazz,
Penway
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#91 · Posted: 10 Jul 2007 01:59
I have never tried the program before but I have made some cash from it it converts very well running as an ad on a few of my sites.
One of the few programs that I sell that I haven't actually tried but it was listed high for referrals in clickbank so I went with it.
Be good to find out if it works effectively for people I hate selling duds.
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#92 · Posted: 11 Jul 2007 17:26
Hi
I have applied about 1 week ago for the Mark Warren's Ultimate wealth management programme. Like everybody else I have followed the step by step plan to start earning money & paid the relevant fees to start a proper business at home. It got very complicated, so I gave up on it for 48 hours. Approx 1 week later I have received a phone call from the IT Coach (they call themselves the Success Team) about starting up my online business following Mark warren's principles if I was ready to commit $5446.00 on a credit card & a coach will guide me for 14 weeks about what products to promote, marketing strategies, website, merchant account, etc. as well as a sort of guarantee for me to recoop the money I have invested within 3 months. They sounded very professional & very convincing. The only worrying thing was that they ask you to pay this money straight away by phone (ask for the long number, expiry date & security code as well) without e-mailing you first a proper contract or some sort of paperwork for you to check. So you give this amount of money on the say so that they have been coaching people for more than 10 years & they will not let you down.
I would like to know if anyone arrives to this stage of the scheme & did have the 14 weeks coaching & whether you manage to get the sort of income the website advertised from it.
I chickened out at this stage as it is a lot of money to lose but I am wondering if I made a mistake & I should have gone with it. Am I losing a bit opportunity of earning money or not.
I would welcome advices.
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#93 · Posted: 13 Jul 2007 16:43
I am new to UWP and so far I have found that it takes quite a bit of work just to get set up, but I am willing to give it a try. There is definitely more money involved than first meets the eye. But I think it really involves being persistent and dedicated, which of course is any thing in life that you attempt to become successful. Forums such as this I believe are the very best place to visit to gain education on many of the topics.
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#94 · Posted: 14 Jul 2007 12:47
Hi Sev
I would strongly advise that you go back and read all the previous posts on this site and I think by the time you have finished doing that, you will have your answer.
From what I understand, you are actually not really selling a "product" as such - basically you are just promoting their website (UWP) who in turn simply ask people to part with their money, who they then teach to market THEIR website and so the cycle continues.. No product is actually being exchanged and in Australia (where I live) that kind of business is actually illegal.
Hope this was helpful 
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#95 · Posted: 15 Jul 2007 07:26
Thank You People! You have just saved my bacon and my money! I actually have a draft email typed up to send to UWP and thought I'd do one last google search - finding this.
I got caught up in a similar web package with midphase a couple of weeks ago - I have no idea how I got it but it was the pro version. Luckily I was able to get out of that one though it did cost me.
For a really good program, check out the forum on Profit Lance. It does take work but you learn how to do things instead of being thrown in at the deep end with a website you don't know how to promote. And they answer emails within a day and don't ask for more money once you've signed up.
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#96 · Posted: 16 Jul 2007 02:39
I'm an Aussie too and was directed to UWP by another Aussie lady! How disappointing to find out that she could be scamming me too!
SURELY there are some genuine online businesses out there that a stay-at-home woman can make some money from!
I'd like to hear from fellow Aussies who have managed to earn an income from an internet business.
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jameszz
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#97 · Posted: 16 Jul 2007 04:24 · Edited by: jameszz
This topic seems to be saving people a lot of money! I went with Wealthy Affiliate and was happy.
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bmwalls
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#98 · Posted: 16 Jul 2007 13:03
Can anyone tell me if money can be made on the UWP without investing in the coaching? Thanks
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JNaugle
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#99 · Posted: 16 Jul 2007 18:32
I was considering adding UWP to my site but after reading all these terrible tetimonials...so long to the link.
Thanks
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gnhpro
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#100 · Posted: 16 Jul 2007 20:32
I to have made the error of signing with the ultimate wealth package. I did not research this scam until the owner Mark Warren called me after I asked for mentor help. Once he found out I had no credit cards to work with as he called it OPM(Other Pepples money) he said he would not be interested in helping me. This was never discussed during the sign up process that you might need 3000 to 6000 to fund some form of training. I just asked click bak for all the refunds since I sign up for the entire system including the pro package. You know its funny that I came to this forum from a video on there site that teaches to use forums to get you site listed on google right away.
Live and Learn I guess.
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