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PeterB
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#1 · Posted: 5 Oct 2007 12:40
Hello there,
has anyone heard sommething about the Reverse Funnel System of Ty Coughlin?
Any experience or comments?
Regards, Peter
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moneyinmypocket
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#2 · Posted: 5 Oct 2007 13:10
Hi Peter!
I have been with the RFS for a few months now. It is whats known as a "Funded Proposal"... a powerful lead generator for the Opportunities and Income streams we will be participating in as a team.
So, the RFS is NOT the opportunity, it's the System we use to help generate leads/market/close sales.
I hope this helps,
Terry
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PeterB
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#3 · Posted: 5 Oct 2007 23:56
Hi Terry,
thanks for your reply!
Could you be a little more specific?
Regards, Peter
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luvtravel
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#4 · Posted: 6 Oct 2007 08:12 · Edited by: luvtravel
Hi ~Peter, basically, to answer your ques, GRN is the product, it is a Luxury resort travel membership, Reverse Funnel system is a marketing system that makes the offer, and weeds out the tire kickers.
Okay that's the simple explanation, to really see what it's all about you pay the $50, BUT if you don't want to continue you don't have to and you will receive a refund of your entire $50.
As Terry said it is called a funded proposal system, it is converting to sales for a lot of those who have joined, just advertise and feed the system and allow it to work in addition we have our team leaders who will talk to your clientfor you when necessary, there is so much expert training both in GRN and RFS and marketing advice and coaching from the cream of the crop!
When you get to my site, fill out the $50 application that way you can get all the info on the product and comp plan. basically you're getting a proven sales professional to do all your sales presentations 24/7, 365 ... and it's proven
to convert... plus so much more...
I haven't seen anything like it, we just heard one of our team members got a sale while she was on vacation in Prague!
People are getting sales that are newbies.
Hope that helped.
Terri
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luvtravel
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#5 · Posted: 15 Oct 2007 09:57
If anyone else has any questions about the RFS, reverse funnel system ask away!
There are other tools available to help, plus our great team support
is available.
Thank you
Terrie
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bizmentor
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#6 · Posted: 16 Oct 2007 00:14
Having done RFS and other systems now within GRN, I am happy to share my personal experience as to which is best, the merits of each,etc. I can tell you this- don't go into RFS unless you have a chance to hear "the rest of the story". It is not for all, but the GRN product is a wonderful product and the comp plan is fabulous. Given the right team support and marketing this can change your life if you are willing to commit to it. I am certainly willing to commit to helping you.
To your success!
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hairazorem
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#7 · Posted: 16 Oct 2007 01:11
i just started a new buisness and im looking for some part time work, hopefully at home but there is so much out there and i came across an ad in the thrifty nickel for the ty coughlin rfs system i want to know if i need a specific product to sell or if its really going to take a lot of capitol to get started? im also really new to this internet marketing is this for me?
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luvtravel
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#8 · Posted: 16 Oct 2007 07:38
hairazorem , I sent you a PM to answer your questions.
But basically The product is GRN or Global resorts network, it is a travel memebership and RFS or reverse funnel system is a tool or a system that automates the sales of GRN.
Our team strongly beleives in training and support to all our team members, there are some who will complain against the RFS because they joined a team that didn't have support and training which is sad and that is why we do have a strong team spirit !Some claim they didnt make any money, that can be said for any system or tool no one can gurantee sales because I beleive I read that in this country its against the law to guarantee sales but the RFS system does automate the sales process which in turn helps the newbie and the experienced marketer.
Also we will never tell you that you will need to max out your credit card to get sales that to is just plain foolish talk and if someone tells you they heard that on a call or whatever we will give you a phone number to call and listen to the calls yourself! There are so many ways for a person to start by placing free ads and marketing if you google free advertising there are tons of them! Oh and our team will provide you with a free lead package to get you started!
To be able to sell a membership you need training, coaching and support and our team provides that whether a newbie to marketing or an experienced marketer the philosophy is the same give the member strong support and training, why because it benefits all of us because of our leveraged income payplan in GRN!
To ignore a team member and not give support would be foolish because the payplan alone in GRN supports a team effort and support!
Terrie
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bizmentor
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#9 · Posted: 16 Oct 2007 10:46
Terri-
I am sorry if it irritates you that on RFS training calls they do in fact tell you to go and get out your credit card and place ads until they are maxed out- (without saying where to place them- just go experiment!) - but that is the simple truth. I was floored when I heard that also on the calls, and floored when I heard it repeated on other calls.
I agree team support is crucial- but when you do not even interview a prospective team member like RFS does not before they join, how can you possibly find a good "philosophy fit" on which to base a long term business relationship? With our team it is all about helping others grow their businesses deep- that takes personal involvement and a common philosophy. Simply put- the two philosophies are dramatically different. We provide sales to our downlines in addition to teaching them while we are providing sales how to go and develop their own sales. With RFS it is all on the individual to pay for and develop their own sales and marketing.
We also agree the GRN product is a wonderful product! And the Comp plan is killer!
Anyone considering the GRN opportunity feel free to pm or email me with your questions- I am happy to help you decide which path is best for you.
To your success!
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moneyinmypocket
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#10 · Posted: 16 Oct 2007 14:06
My Post of the Day:
"Be Accountable for Everything In Your Life"
Rich people believe that they create their lives. Poor people believe that life happens to them.
If you want to be wealthy, you must believe that you're the one causing your success, mediocrity or struggle.
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kim_ward
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#11 · Posted: 17 Oct 2007 08:40
There are a lot of great advertising resources in the back to
choose from, free and paid, and while on the calls have
members place both, even ads as low as $2.00
It really depends on what your advertising budget is,
but the great thing with the reverse funnel system
is that you can see exactly where your ads are paying
off, everything is so perfectly tracked, there is no guess
work on what's working and what is not.
The quality of people you can attract with this is amazing
as well.
RFS may not be for everyone, but one needs to try for
themselves to know. If you seriously have an interest
in it, get your questions answered and then experience
it for yourself.
I would not let anyone's limited experience with it be
the judge if it's for you or not. There are too many success
stories to ignore, so the main focus should be, is this
a system that is right for you, right now.
It's perfectly ok to start GRN without it. If you like everything
you see in GRN, don't let anything hold you back on getting
started. Figure out if RFS is right for you afterwards.
It's open to everyone in GRN anyway.
I hope that assisted a few people, and if I can be of
further help, just let me know.
Kim Ward
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#12 · Posted: 17 Oct 2007 14:20
Quoting: PeterB Hello there,has anyone heard sommething about the Reverse Funnel System of Ty Coughlin?Any experience or comments?
Here are my personal stats from the last month and a half.... I hope this helps:
$3,200 spent on marketing RFS = 5 paid $50 leads / NO Sales!
In my opinion, join a team that focuses more on marketing Global Resorts and not so much on RFS.... unless you have experience in internet marketing OR tons of money to throw at testing ad campaigns.
The other thing I'm having issues with is that my $50 paid leads were shocked when they saw the $300 / month cost for RFS when they go to sign up.... (at the very end of the "funnel")
People are having success with RFS, but they are a select few with developed lists of prospects from years of online marketing. That's fine, and most people within RFS... if you ask them, will tell you it's not for everyone.
It certainly wasn't for me.... I don't have that kind of cash to lay out on "campaign testing" anymore.
I'm out!
Scott
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kim_ward
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#13 · Posted: 18 Oct 2007 00:43
Scott, there are newbies and pro's making money
within the system, so although a large list is nice, it has
not been the case for the ones who are seeing results.
I started using it because of the kind of people it is
attracting, and I can say there is no need to spend 3k
to see results. There are so resources available, and
one can get with someone to help guide them according
to their budget. But you do have to be proactive in
your own business and learn to be resourceful.
Now, may we move away from telling others what team
to join while being negative of RFS? It is open to anyone
in the company, so there is really no need to continue
like this.
Thanks,
Kim
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bizmentor
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#14 · Posted: 18 Oct 2007 11:03
RFS has created their own negativity with overpromising and underdelivering, unfortunately.
It really is a shame. But even on their own conference calls you can sense it is not working for most from the frustration and comments by the members.
Again, it truly is a shame. There is a great product in Global Resorts Network and a great compensation plan. The good news is RFS is not the only way to take advantage of the great product and comp plan as there are other very viable alternatives.
There is a lesson to be learned here that applies to all phases of business. If you build your organization based on integrity you will prosper. Anything less will most certainly come back to haunt you.
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#15 · Posted: 21 Oct 2007 10:31
Chad,
You raise a good point. The key to getting results in the reverse funnel system is to have a strong group of others to work with. It can be tough to get results doing anything without support.
The GRN product is good and the RFS system can generate success for people that have a strong team or support group to work with.
The $300 a month can be a bit overwhelming after the initial cost of $3,000.
Established internet marketers can hit the ground running but new members will have a tough time without support. Getting started in any business it easier when you can establish a presence. This does not happen overnight as we all know. That is why it is important to lay the ground work and establish a presence before expecting immediate results.
We are lucky that a lot of marketing with the reverse funnel can be done with web 2.0 stuff that can be free, but takes some time and effort. All of this is made easier when someone joins with a strong group that has co-op advertising and is willing and wanting to help.
If you get in the rfs and try to be self supporting, it will be a tough battle. A true RFS is when more than one person is trying to help others with success. How is this different than any other business? It's not.
RFS is not for everyone. No doubt about that but for those that have a strong network or have an established internet presence, it can be lucrative. If you don't have that then get with a strong group that provides help and guidance.
I am always open to any advertising or marketing ideas. Don't be afraid to join others in business. It can be the key to getting started or helping when things get tough. If you can get a productive SEO campaign and alternate income streams in place, the RFS can be put into place as the big ticket item that puts you over the top.
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#16 · Posted: 21 Oct 2007 15:16
It's not cheap!
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kim_ward
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#17 · Posted: 21 Oct 2007 15:38
Quoting: bizmentor RFS has created their own negativity with overpromising and underdelivering, unfortunately. It really is a shame. But even on their own conference calls you can sense it is not working for most from the frustration and comments by the members. Again, it truly is a shame. There is a great product in Global Resorts Network and a great compensation plan. The good news is RFS is not the only way to take advantage of the great product and comp plan as there are other very viable alternatives. There is a lesson to be learned here that applies to all phases of business. If you build your organization based on integrity you will prosper. Anything less will most certainly come back to haunt you.
Chad, that is not true at all about people on the calls. In fact,
I have been watching people's progress in GRN, and I'm
hearing those speak up who never made a sale now doing
so with RFS.
Of course there are other options in GRN, but the thread is
to discuss RFS, not pitch people on them.
Cheers,
Kim
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#18 · Posted: 21 Oct 2007 15:40
doesn't matter what you say...its still not cheap!
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#19 · Posted: 21 Oct 2007 15:45
Quoting: southbank63 It's not cheap!
Hi Southbank,
RFS may or may not be the way to go for someone
joining GRN, and that's ok. But, when marketing a high
ticket item, sometimes cheap is not the best option
though. 
I would like to add, there is a price to pay for financial
freedom, there is no such thing as a free lunch...things
to consider before joining any business, and if someone
promises you that, buyer beware.
With all that said, where there is a will there is a way is
also true, so each person needs to decide what is best
for them, and just get started, in GRN, RFS or anything
else for that matter.
Cheers,
Kim
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#20 · Posted: 21 Oct 2007 15:47
Quoting: southbank63 doesn't matter what you say...its still not cheap!
Well, neither am I, and that's a good thing. 
Have a great Sunday,
Kim
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