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#21 · Posted: 20 Apr 2008 08:31
getagrip should sign up for SBI under HappyWife and HappyWife should sign up for WA under getagrip?
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#22 · Posted: 20 Apr 2008 08:56
Hear hear Happywife
That is exactly the right sentiments about what Ken's trying to explain. It takes a fair amount of time to get your content-rich sites to be optimized & duly monetize after the preselling. ( CTPM process ? )
And that's why genuine online marketeer is "persuaded" for the 1 year commitment to complete the C-T-P-M process for the full circle.
There's no point going for monthly whereby some marketeers gave up half way & claimed that the process doesn't work cos they want fast money
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#23 · Posted: 20 Apr 2008 11:54
I believe SBI is a good opportunity.
However, I am told on the outside if you decide on a second niche you have to pay again..for every website.
Victoria
The SBI free ebooks are very well-written and helpful!
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#24 · Posted: 20 Apr 2008 13:29 · Edited by: getagrip
Yeah, I definately understand why he doesn't allow people to pay monthly, because a lot of people would "bolt" before the year is up. From what I understand, however, he offers a pro-rated refund, which is pretty rare in the internet marketing industry. Happywife - if I send you a PM, do you mind if I take a look at a few of your websites built with SBI?
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#25 · Posted: 20 Apr 2008 14:23
Yes NTC. For every website that you want to subject to a SBI process, you have to get an additional license, so to speak.
In SBI, it is not about the quantity of niches that you want to compress in one single site. But rather it's about specialization & being a total expert in the niche that you chose & providing what an exact searcher would expect to find & that is in the SBI site that you niched.
And when you had "almost" all the relevant information / contents in your site ie satisfying the first process of SBI ( Contents ), your SEO would be pretty customary. You don't have to worry about whether the spiders would rate you any lower than necessary. ( of course that would subject again to whether your niche is really "a niche" ).
When you "spidered' & indexed, that's where the fun is. Whenever a user searches for a phrase or keywords that you "brainstorm" before publishing your site, you get traffic, free traffic ie. The traffic will look you up rather than you presenting to get the traffic. Imagine how smart the searcher would felt about his accomplishment instead rather than you pushing a pitch !
And that's what every marketeers ultimately would want. Traffic that feel good about their work without realizing about the monetizing part. You don't chase the customer but the customer comes to you. ( due said, before monetizing, there's the Preselling part , of course )
Even if there's a similar niche, the world is big enuff for couple of niches to exist together
Adsense would be an automatic income once your relevancy is judged. And that's just one stream only.
There's just too many info & methods to be put here. And the best is, all the necessary tools & education ( Ken is never stingy in those ) are easily accessible plus it's support.
Once your income streams materialized, the yearly subscription is quite marginal as an OPEX. ( it's just an expense as with any business ). Small price to pay for a vast of opportunities.
Then if you're into diversification, work on another site / niche.
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#26 · Posted: 20 Apr 2008 23:06 · Edited by: happywife
Newbie Shield: getagrip should sign up for SBI under HappyWife and HappyWife should sign up for WA under getagrip?
Hmmm.. Does WA have a free affiliate program?
getagrip: Happywife - if I send you a PM, do you mind if I take a look at a few of your websites built with SBI?
Sure, you are welcome to look at my sites. You don't have to pm me about them (though you can if you want  because two of them are in my signature - the chocolate site and the parasite site.
The third is my auto-insurance-helper site. Just add the .com. I have to own up that this site is my overly ambitious possible mistake. In this case, I didn't follow Ken's advice and chose far too broad a niche. Although my Alexa ranking is not bad, I'm struggling to get traffic. I need to devote more time to it, which I am determined to do. I've pretty much decided to plug away at it for 2 years before calling it a lost cause. It's only been about 8 months so far so...
I usually make enough to cover the cost of the site, but it really isn't bringing in the profit that I was hoping for. Again, completely my fault for not listening to the voice of experience. At any rate, if I ever can make this site an organic traffic generator, I will do very well with it. Patience is a virtue, or so I keep reminding myself...
Having said all that, if anyone has an interesting, funny, or wretched experience with an insurance company, I'd be glad to have you add your comments on the review page.
NTC: However, I am told on the outside if you decide on a second niche you have to pay again..for every website.
You are correct Victoria. Each site is it's own fee. You can sometimes get a year free or for only $100 during their periodic sales, but SBI isn't a 'hosting' company, per se. Yes, it provides the domain and hosting as part of the package, but it is almost incidental. The annual fee is for the site building software, research tools, site submission tools, forum access, autoresponders, etc., etc.
Blessings,
Angie
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#27 · Posted: 21 Apr 2008 16:48
Quick question: I'm getting the impression that there are still fees to pay AFTER you make your initial $299 investment - is that correct?
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#28 · Posted: 21 Apr 2008 17:42
getagrip: Quick question: I'm getting the impression that there are still fees to pay AFTER you make your initial $299 investment - is that correct?
The SBI license is $299 per year. I'm not sure if that's what you were referring to.
You might spend additional money if you wanted a fancy blog or forum but those are optional.
Look, if you want to build a web site that makes money, there is no better program than SBI. If you've throughly reviewed all the info on the SBI website and you still question $299 a year then ... I'm trying to think of a nice way to put this ... maybe I should just say that I'm glad if you don't see the value because that means less competition for me and I make a lot of money with my four SBI licenses and all the Internet marketing skills I learned from Dr. Ken & Company.
Best Regards,
Mark
P.S. Please note that I do not have an SBI affiliate link in my sig file.
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#29 · Posted: 21 Apr 2008 17:56
getagrip: Quick question: I'm getting the impression that there are still fees to pay AFTER you make your initial $299 investment - is that correct?
Apart from the annual fee ($299), there are NO fees to pay to have a successful site. That includes the domain, hosting, brainstorming tools, site building software, ezine/newsletter, autoresponders, etc.
The only other paid option that I can think of is their Content 2.0 module. Basically, it is a feature that allows other people to contribute content and comments to your site that you can approve and/or add or delete.
There is a trial status that allows you to use it for free for 25 pages (submissions) to see if you think it is a good fit for your site. After that, you can pay $99 per year for an unlimited amount of submissions. I have the paid version activated on my chocolate site, but not on my other two sites yet. I will definitely use it on my parasite site eventually, and maybe even the insurance site if it becomes a benefit.
You can invest more money if you want other features outside of SBI, but it isn't necessary to do well. Some people add stores and forums and who knows what else, but that's up to the individual's business plan.
I understand why you ask this. I've purchased things before that sounded like they were including all I needed but in reality had a heap of other things I needed to purchase if I wanted it to 'really work.' SBI isn't like that. You really can make it work well with just the basic yearly package.
Blessings,
Angie
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#30 · Posted: 21 Apr 2008 18:21 · Edited by: getagrip
Happywife, thanks for the clarification. Mark, I was just asking a simple question to clarify the issue about Site Build It so I can make a more informed review about it if I become an affiliate. BTW, I DO make money from my existing websites, although I just might throw Site Build It in the mix at some point if I can get a good ROI.
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#31 · Posted: 21 Apr 2008 18:32
getagrip: Happywife, thanks for the clarification. Mark, I was just asking a simple question to clarify the issue about Site Build It so I can make a more informed review about it if I become an affiliate. BTW, I DO make money from my existing websites, although I just might throw Site Build It in the mix at some point if I can get a good ROI.
Ah ok, I get it. Sorry I was being cranky.
Going for a hike in the hills ... cures crankiness. 
Mark
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#32 · Posted: 21 Apr 2008 18:41
getagrip: Happywife, thanks for the clarification. Mark, I was just asking a simple question to clarify the issue about Site Build It so I can make a more informed review about it if I become an affiliate.
If you really want to be able to give it an honest and thorough review without actually purchasing it, I'll pm you a link where you can access the written and video Action guide (step by step tutorials).
It may take a little while to go through the material, but you will have a real understanding of what SBI is and does. The fact that you already have web experience will enable you to see the value of what is offered in their program.
I'll pop that off to you now.
Angie
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#33 · Posted: 21 Apr 2008 19:21
I checked into sbi, but it was a little too pricey for me. I decided to use a program that lets me build unlimited sites and I only pay once for it! Your sites generate income and even a complete newbie can do it. It's very easy , they help with keywords, etc. You don't have to know html. I've been very happy with it. If you're interested, just send me a message, I can't post it.
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#34 · Posted: 4 Nov 2008 01:04
4 Nov 2008 05:40 - Attached on merging:
Site Build It
I used this program a few years ago, and I liked it a lot but found it not as flexible as I liked it to be. But over all I thought it was a great product, and I learned a ton from it. It was worth the price I paid.
Have you ever used it, and what do you think of Site Build IT?
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#35 · Posted: 4 Nov 2008 01:50
I've heard good things about it and would like to give it a test run, but unfortunately, I don't have an extra $300 laying around...that's the main knock against SBI, but other than that, from what I hear, its a great program.
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#36 · Posted: 4 Nov 2008 04:30
I learned the ropes from the ground up using SBI. I absolutely love it. I build all my sites with their package and tools and consider it money very well spent. I'm just about to launch site #4.
I was skeptical about spending the initial $299 for my first year, but I made it back several times over in that year so it was worth it. I could possibly build a successful site without using SBI now, but they make it so much easier and more efficient that I can't see any reason to do so. I guess you can say I'm a 'lifer' now.
Blessings,
Angie
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#37 · Posted: 26 Nov 2008 22:13
Angie:
How about emailing me that insightful link to the guts of SBI you mentioned in previous post?
FreshStart56 at comcast dot net Thanks.
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#38 · Posted: 27 Nov 2008 15:56
I looked into SBI a while back and I think with all the testimonials I might go ahead and try it out. My only concern is the ability to load a high-quality site with the SBI system. Does anyone have or know of such a SBI site. All of the sites I've seen so far have been rather basic and lack experience.
When I invest in my website, i want it to be a professional, high-quality website with a flash experience, even if it's still a fairly simple site. Is it possible to have a site professionally designed and use it in conjunction with the SBI system? I really have no interest in learning web design or building my own site past the extent of adding content and layout; it simply would not be worth my time, when I have absolutely no experience and there are thousands of people who can do it far better and much more quickly. Thanks all!
happywife: Would you mind sending me that link as well.
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#39 · Posted: 27 Nov 2008 21:45
One question.
Do you have full control over your site?
My 1st experiance at IM was with Your Affiliate Site... which wound up being a landing page with a couple of modules and then other banners were splashed on the page you had no control over.
I didn't stick around to see if it worked.
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#40 · Posted: 27 Nov 2008 23:31
FreshStart56: How about emailing me that insightful link to the guts of SBI you mentioned in previous post?
Sent! Look for an email from my chocolate-candy-mall.com site.
klrrider: Do you have full control over your site?
Yes, you do. You build the site (with their tools or your own if you prefer) from the ground up. They take you through the entire process so don't think you can't do it.
If you look at my sites, I use the simple block builder which is wonderful for newbies with zero experience (like I was). I put the adsense where and when I want them as well as any banner links I may or may not choose to use, etc.
The templates provided are pretty basic and a lot of experienced web designers want something more. That's not a problem because you can customize one of the existing templates or simply upload your own into the system.
More and more SBIers are going to 3 column sites and even using CSS, but none of that is necessary for success. It's a matter of preference and ascetics.
You can really make just as much money with a prepared template as you can with a more elaborate one (sometimes more). It's the other stuff that SBI teaches and provides that makes the site/business a success, not the look of the page.
That's not to say you want a trashy looking site because you do want to KEEP your visitors once you get them, not run them off!
jaynen - I'll come back and answer your question once it's been approved and I can read the whole thing.
Blessings,
Angie
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