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Rlopez250
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#1 · Posted: 8 Apr 2011 17:31
Its "suppose" to increase your fuel mileage, but a business op. at the same time, Ive looked online and only find testimonials from thier site.
http://www.naturerich-inc.com/corporate/Xp3_product.cfm
If anyone is using it, please post up.
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RICH4NURICHE
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#2 · Posted: 8 Apr 2011 19:30
Rlopez250, i come from an automotive background. I recommend passing on it. Even if it did work, it would'nt be significant enough to negate the large increase in fuel prices. Only finding testimonials on their site should raise a flag. Try looking for something else.
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#3 · Posted: 8 Apr 2011 21:24
Rlopez250: increase your fuel mileage, but a business op.
Every gas crisis, price increase, has brought out dozens of fuel savings scams.
Don't know this one in particular but if it has sign up fees that's your first clue.
Other than that you just need proof the claims are true before you repeat them.
Then again, if you just want to make money "there's a sucker born every minute".
I have yet to see a fuel additive that was cost effective even at $5 a gallon gas.
People buy when they think it will save them money or provide other benefits.
They only buy again if it really does.
A quick buck or a lifetime of income?
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Rlopez250
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#4 · Posted: 9 Apr 2011 08:38
RICH,
Ive found some videos on Youtube, but they seem to be from people that are in the business opp. and are trying to sell it, a couple said that they recieved about 80 more miles out of a tank, BUT, no contact info for them..
Just2,
you can buy this stuff from a distibutor, so theres no sign up to get some and try it. If my match it correct, its about the same cost of Seafoam, which does work, Ive used it for awhile...
I think Im going to buy a torpedo of this stuff and try it, Im NOT going to sink $300 into the business opp.
I appreciate the replies. you guys are great.
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FREEBUSINESSES
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#5 · Posted: 20 Apr 2011 12:50
Same old same old, but the bottom line is simple, all these fuel additives do nothing more than help clean up carbon from cylinders and head, valve train, etc., but any of the top name brand products can do the same thing at a fraction of price being asked for from any of the dozens of MLM companies I have researched over the years.
What they do is all the same, but you are induced to think you have to use these products on every gas fill, and this is where people are misled. Once you cylinders are clean, you only have to treat your fuel tank once every few months at most depending on how much you drive, not every day. Most will see an improvement when you treat your engine with any of these fuel additives, but don't think you will lose any MPG by not using it every tank, and I dare anyone to say differently. I have tested them all, dozens over the years.
The real test is let the EPA run it through their testing facilities, none ever have. And I don't mean simply registering ingredients as a fuel additive which everyone has to do, this means nothing regarding EPA performance testing which costs upwords of $20K plus, and to date, not one single company has gone through this lab testing procedure, ever wonder why? Because then the truth would be known that no increase in MPG or power will be realized.
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#6 · Posted: 27 Apr 2011 14:41
well I bought a couple bottles of this to try out, and I got a 30% increase in my MPG. I am writtening everything down and will let you all more later.
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#7 · Posted: 27 Apr 2011 19:18
Great for you,
Any fuel additive will do the same, so don't be misled into using it every tank, this is the typical misleading tactics all these deals use, so prove it to yourself, once your engine is cleaned or treated, which takes about three tanks of treatments with the average additive found at Walmart for a couple bucks, you won't have to use it again for months depending on how many miles you drive.
I have used several brands over the years, and almost all work the same, a few tanks adding cleaning additives will usually work for even older high mileage vehicles after a few treatments. The illusion is that most will see an improvement at first, like the above reports, but you don't need to add it to every tank is main point. Few will see 30%, and given most do not have a computer in their vehicles like ScanGage, or factory computer, you can see variables of up to 20% unless you were on a closed loop control track like the EPA does when putting products like this through their labs.
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#8 · Posted: 29 Apr 2011 08:33
FREEBUSINESSES
Hi,
I just wanted people to hear another side to the story! I have been using Xp3 for 3 months and am getting an additional 3.6 miles per gallon to 4 miles per gallon on every tank. Currently, that is saving me over $8.50 per tank because I get the Xp3 for "free" as part of the business when I "cycle". Even if I had to pay for the tube of Xp3, I would still be saving over $6 per tank that I would lose otherwise.
Regarding using it in every tank, if my injectors and engine got "dirty" without it, why would I want to let that happen again? I have spoken to 2 different people at the EPA and they said that many companies don't spend the 20K to 30K to test the product because the EPA won't "endorse" it - even after being tested. The EPA said don't be suprised that companies don't test with us because it is costs a lot and doesn't give a "return".
Bottom line is savings! I am able to drive further on each tank and my car runs better! If I don't use Xp3, I am paying more to drive the same - WHY WOULD I DO THAT?
I encourage any dialogue on the subject, but please speak in facts not opinions. All Fuel Additives are not the same and I can prove by the testing done in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIN9cZRZnx4
I am always looking to learn more, so if anyone can give an opposing view based on fact - please share it because I will seek answers for it!
Have a Great Day!
Tom
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#9 · Posted: 4 May 2011 17:14 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
Pottertom: I have been using Xp3 for 3 months and am getting an additional 3.6 miles per gallon to 4 miles per gallon on every tank.
Pottertom: I have spoken to 2 different people at the EPA and they said that many companies don't spend the 20K to 30K to test the product because the EPA won't "endorse" it - even after being tested. The EPA said don't be suprised that companies don't test with us because it is costs a lot and doesn't give a "return".
"Doesn't give a return" - meaning they'll be exposed.
But anyway, this is all hearsay of course
Pottertom: I am always looking to learn more, so if anyone can give an opposing view based on fact
You might want to start with some actual, independent 3d party based investigation, and PROOF, instead of video of a magic trick, based on "facts".
Pottertom: Bottom line is savings! I am able to drive further on each tank and my car runs better! If I don't use Xp3, I am paying more to drive the same - WHY WOULD I DO THAT?
Bottom line is, you are selling a product.
Your statements are suspect.
This is why independent 3d party investigation and proof is essential.
Anyone who believes what an advertiser says, on the internet, short of anything less, is simply naive, to say the least.
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#10 · Posted: 4 May 2011 17:35 · Edited by: FREEBUSINESSES
Regarding using it in every tank, if my injectors and engine got "dirty" without it, why would I want to let that happen again? I have spoken to 2 different people at the EPA and they said that many companies don't spend the 20K to 30K to test the product because the EPA won't "endorse" it - even after being tested. The EPA said don't be suprised that companies don't test with us because it is costs a lot and doesn't give a "return".
Injectors do not get clogged over night, it takes over six months, if at all, and for good reason, all gas have additves to clean injestors these days, so a once every six months to a year cleaner is all you need to use, and with many on the market, most under $3.00, you do not need an additive with every fill up which is the real scam.
Not true, results are easy to evaluate from EPA, and I use to run a lab back when I was importing Mercedes Benz from Germany, so I know exactly how demanding EPA lab test is, and without it, you have nothing more than heresay, and variables which don't mean anything. You need controlled test lab on dyno, that is why no one will spend the $25K, they know what they will see, nothing. You don't need EPA endorsement, you need facts.
Good luck,
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#11 · Posted: 23 May 2011 13:04
those that say "you dont need to clean your injectors every tank" etc etc, well that may be true, but from my understanding, this stuff disperses the water in the gas, you fill your tank with. Making the engine run better.....
Since I started using this, remember I just bought a 16oz bottle to try it out. Since then my mileagae has steadily INCREASED..
Im using a site called Fuelly to track it, http://www.fuelly.com/driver/ric/4runner
and just incase the link doesnt work, google Fuelly and search for Rix4runner.
I know that so far, for me, it wil doing as stated.
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#12 · Posted: 23 May 2011 13:32
Rlopez250
Your calculator seems to be mistaken, it's not accounting for 2 fill ups.
The average mileage from your last 2 tanks comes out to 15.2mpg (526miles/34.44gal)
Doesn't sound like an increase to me, in fact it is below EPA estimates.
Are you seriously claiming you got 526 miles from one tank - 28.6mpg?
If that is true I'll gladly feed it to my 4Runner.
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#13 · Posted: 23 May 2011 14:21
Rlopez250: those that say "you dont need to clean your injectors every tank" etc etc, well that may be true, but from my understanding, this stuff disperses the water in the gas, you fill your tank with. Making the engine run better.....
Sadly, they always claim way more than what it really does, after all, their game is to convince you to use it everytime you get gas, and that is not going to save you money, it will cost you money over the long term
If you have water in your gas, then change gas stations, or have your car repaired for water in a sealed system, which most late models all are equipped with ended condensation issues years ago, and then again, if you have a car with condensation issues, use dry gas, it is way cheaper.
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#14 · Posted: 23 May 2011 14:41
Rlopez250
If you want a simple way to boost your 4Runner's mpg by 10%
use the trick the Water4Gas guys use to boost their mileage:
Wrap some aluminum foil around the Oxygen sensor on your tailpipe.
That will cause the computer to lean out the fuel by at least 10%.
Another trick is to put a resistor on the MAP sensor to give more air without more gas.
Under a buck and last forever.
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#15 · Posted: 24 Aug 2011 20:11
any news updates on this xp3 GAS ADDITIVE stuff let me no if it work's thanks!
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#16 · Posted: 13 Sep 2011 14:16
Does it help with the gummy, syrupy residue from ethanol?
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#17 · Posted: 21 Dec 2011 23:40
Started using it as a major skeptic in Oct. in my 2008 GMC truck. Got 14 mpg late summer. Now in Dec in northern Minn. getting 17 mpg ave. in town after 9 tanks.Did watch increase in mpg grow from tANK # 6 TO # 10. Also have an old Ford full sized tractor/loader that I struggled to keep running. Using XP3 has made this beast purrr like a kitten with noticeably more power for moving dirt, down trees, etc. Using it in 4 wheelers, chain saws, splitters, 3 cars and GMC truck with VERY noticeable increase in fuel mileage/efficiency. Looking forward to using it in boats and mowers in the summer. All family members experiencing same positive results. More than impressed!!! Wish all a Merry Christmas and a more economical New Year
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