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Bikepilot
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#1 · Posted: 22 Jun 2007 20:14
Had a friend introduce me to www.the-team.biz. Going tuesday to meeting to find out more. Has anyone been involved or introduced to this business? Can you give you opinion? Thanks
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cherryC
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#2 · Posted: 26 Jun 2007 07:20
Yes, newly introduced myself. You will never know until you go to the meeting  went to my first meeting last week and I'm going again this week!! I really suggest you go if you are looking for a change in your life
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decker2006
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#3 · Posted: 26 Jun 2007 08:56
I recognize the product as a Quixtar energy drink. I know someone who is wildly successful with it, but it is not for everybody.
Noreen
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#4 · Posted: 2 Jul 2007 04:34
I agree with Noreen.
XS is a Quixtar product... make sure that if you go that you make your decision based on facts and not emotions.
I see so many people make business decisions based purely on what they feel rather than using good business sense.
It is easy to do when they get you in the hyped up atmosphere... not saying you can't do well with it, but just make sure you ask questions and have all the facts before so you can make a smart and educated business decision.
Best wishes...
Brian
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freespirit
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#5 · Posted: 13 Jul 2007 08:17
I started my business through the team about two months ago after contemplating it for a month and a half. I was in the tool & die trade for over 22 years when the bottom droped out of that trade. I found that I was left with two choices, work for another company for alot less than I thought that I was worth because the market was flooded with people that was in the same boat as me, or start a new career. As a middle aged man I really wasn't happy with neither. Eventually one of my close friends approached me about the team and I was no less than receptive. Me, being the analytical and practical scientifically minded person that I am was not willing to be open minded, but my circumstances gave me little choice. I always believed, and for the most part still do, believe that if something sounds too good to be true, then it probably is. However, I have found this to be an exception to that rule. the application, the numbers, and the system makes sense. I have always thought of myself as a honest person and a man with integrity, I would not lie to people especially my friends and I have never been a salesman, and with this I don't have to. Truth is that I see it working for me with all the help from the Team, and I really feel like I am helping everyone that I can sign up. The only cautions that I can put forth is that this is a business and the way one works it reflects in the results. Some do it faster, some do it slower. And too, that it can be very difficult because everyone that I have encountered believes just like me or worse. But the effort will be worth it.
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#6 · Posted: 18 Jul 2007 02:53
You are correct freespirit that it does take some work to be successful as does any home business.
What I look at with Quixtar is the comp plan comparably to other MLM's it is about 8% below on Average paid out by MLM's.
Now, I know that the compensation plan isn't everything, but it is a very important thing when joining a business and something that you are going to commit too.
It saddens me to see the amount of people that get involved with their company and don't even know how their compensation plan works.
To your success...
Brian McCoy
McCoy Marketing Group
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Levi
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#7 · Posted: 20 Jul 2007 14:48
Well, we were involved in TEAM (the-team.biz) for about a year. We worked aggressively, were power-players, consumate IBO's, on full System, spoke at Tuesday Night Opens, walked stage at national convention for recognition...
and lost $5,000.
I learned an awful lot in that year.  Here's one thing. I advise people to ask themselves some simple questions when they're considering any business opportunity...
Ask yourself...
1. What is the actual risk to get started (both in time and money)?
2. What is the ongoing risk to continue (both in time and money) ABOVE my present time/money budget situation?
3. What is the potential to help others WITHOUT[b][/b] hurting them financially?
4. What is the potential to help yourself financially assuming questions 1-3 are answered satisfactorily?
Lastly, you should take a customer's perspective on a potential business and ask yourself "What advantage is there to being a customer and what will it cost them in extra time, money or effort?".
Answer these questions without rationalizing to yourself. I would not recommend saying things like "Well, every business requires an investment of money." or even "So what if you have to pay a little more for the same products. If you can make money and help others make money, that's all that counts.".
If you have to have discussions like that with yourself, you're likely in a ship with a big hole in it convincing yourself the water in your room feels good on your feet! If you don't have to rationalize, and your answers are favorable, then you have something there!
Also, it helps if your business has a long reputable history, an unbeatable product line, and appeals to the masses in both quality and economy.
If you can find all that, then you've got something!
Resting in His provision,
Paul
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#8 · Posted: 4 Aug 2007 03:59
Can anyone recommend a site that will generate quailified traffic to my site?
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MatthewTEAM
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#9 · Posted: 12 Aug 2007 03:24
LISTEN UP THE TEAM IS RIGHT
ORRIN IS A HERO
CHRIS IS ALSO........They have help so many and then you have to go and say that on this post. You should be ashamed of yourself.
You might want to change your personal interests.....Christ should not be one of them if you are willing to lie about 100's of 1000's of people that are putting America back in America. ITS CALLED GUTS.
You did not go power player and you did not lose $5,000 bucks quite telling things that are not true about the TEAM .......You know nothing.
GARBAGE is what you speak.....spreading lies so others will not live their dreams.....You QUIT on your wife and your kids too.....
After you get off from working a hard day go in and look at your children and tell them daddy gave up on his goals and Dreams.
Daddy is a loser who posts false information for those to judge others by his falures so they will not have their daddy at home either.
Oh and by the way $5,000 is what you lost .......you mean you did not file a 1099....its called business expenses. Have you ever been is real business.....if you had $5,000 would be a 1% of your Loses.
Sincerely, Matthew Olin Day.....
[email protected]
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morganz
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#10 · Posted: 15 Aug 2007 00:04
I have to say MatthewTEAM, DRINK THE KOOLAID! Wow, have you listened to yourselves? I have gone to a Tuesday meeting. I have listened to SO many people that have gotten involved in this, and you know what? It's nothing unlike ANY other pyramid scheme, and it won't bring you riches unless you're willing to invest a LARGE amount of time and money, and even then, it might not.
For you to drag out someone's personal business (Which I don't even consider as the truth considering I don't know if you even know this person) is just wrong and totally discredits your business in the eyes of so many of us that have read this.
You people are making this whole thing seem like some Koolaid drinking, killing for your master, all the women sleeping with one man, brainwashing cult. Going to a meeting was like walking into a fanatical, drop to your knees crying, hollering and waving your arms in the air church service. I was completely creeped out and turned off.
Maybe it's that I am not co-dependent and I don't feel the need to be a part of something to feel better about myself,and I know that as long as I make wise decision in my business opportunities, I will be just fine. However, THE TEAM, as a business, may work for some... the people as a whole are fanatical and bordering creepy.
Good luck in your ventures, but the next time someone wants to voice their personal experiences for others to consider, don't drag them through the mud. It only make you look bad.
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pbrite
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#11 · Posted: 15 Aug 2007 02:39
Speaking of Woodward and Brady, an interesting article here about their new ventures. There's a war about to happen between the Team founders and Quixtar. Anyone know anything else about this?
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Levi
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#12 · Posted: 15 Aug 2007 12:47
MatthewTEAM...
I couldn't agree with you more about Orrin. Infact, I emailed him a letter of support and prayer. In it, I outlined the influence he has had and continues to have in my life and the lives of my family. I find him a fantastic leader. I prayed for him last evening. I hope you've done the same.
But no matter how good a captain you are, you can't pilot a boat made of lead! He was right to leave Quixtar. But how many lives have been sacrificed in the last few years he's been trying to change the system. Mine was one of them
I did not quit. I presently run a successful home business which we started after I left TEAM. TEAM is not the only vehicle. In fact, if you ask yourself the questions listed above in my previous blog, it's not a great one. My children and wife are very proud of their dad/husband.
Ironically, Orrin has left Quixtar on August 9th for the same reason I did over 3 years ago. That doesn't make me any smarter than him. I just realized there had to be other ways to accomplish my goal. Here's a direct quote from his resignation...
Today, August 9th, 2007, eight current members of the IBOAI board from North America, representing a combined average experience of twenty seven years in the business, approached Quixtar/Alticor to express deep concern with the current condition of the Quixtar business. For years, we've all been concerned that Quixtar's products have been hopelessly overpriced and were virtually not retailable. Quixtar has known this, too, because over the last few years we have repeatedly informed them of this fact and have literally begged them to correct the problem. They did nothing...
What I'm saying is not garbage. It is the truth. I understand your loyalty to Orrin. My loyalty to him came second to my loyalty to God and family. My original response was in direct response to BikePilot's question. If you go back and read it, you'll find nothing slanderous. Just truthful information. I mentioned nothing about Orrin or Chris.
Yes, I was a power player. Yes, I did lose $5,000. Yes, I did itemize it.
...No, I couldn't afford to lose it.
I'm wishing you well in your journey. In this case, there are many routes...Choose wisely.
Blessings.
Paul
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#13 · Posted: 15 Aug 2007 12:50
Well said Paul!
I agree there are so many ways to make an income from the comfort of your own home.
In my humble opinion, there are so many better ways out there than the Quixtar business.
Best Wishes,
Brian McCoy
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sillybilly
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#14 · Posted: 15 Aug 2007 22:52
Quoting: MatthewTEAM LISTEN UP THE TEAM IS RIGHT ORRIN IS A HERO CHRIS IS ALSO........They have help so many and then you have to go and say that on this post. You should be ashamed of yourself. You might want to change your personal interests.....Christ should not be one of them if you are willing to lie about 100's of 1000's of people that are putting America back in America. ITS CALLED GUTS. You did not go power player and you did not lose $5,000 bucks quite telling things that are not true about the TEAM .......You know nothing. GARBAGE is what you speak.....spreading lies so others will not live their dreams.....You QUIT on your wife and your kids too..... After you get off from working a hard day go in and look at your children and tell them daddy gave up on his goals and Dreams. Daddy is a loser who posts false information for those to judge others by his falures so they will not have their daddy at home either. Oh and by the way $5,000 is what you lost .......you mean you did not file a 1099....its called business expenses. Have you ever been is real business.....if you had $5,000 would be a 1% of your Loses. Sincerely, Matthew Olin Day..... [email protected]
LMAO...are you for real? PYRAMID PYRAMID....AMWAY ALERT!
Do you enjoy your pep rallies? *That is not our goal. Our goal is to be stay at home parents*
Yeah my brother and sister-in-law got sucked into this cult-like brainwashing scheme too...they're gonna make millions I'm sure...HAHAHAHAHA
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hstamelo
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#15 · Posted: 27 Aug 2007 18:24
brainwashing? Brainwashing to become a successful business owner? If that is case then my brain needs a washing.
You obviously don't know much about this. You may want to get the right information first before you make a comment like that.
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Ozzyfan418
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#16 · Posted: 8 Sep 2007 20:24
You guys do not fully understand this Team business at all! The Team is a relativelly new business people seem to think that the business is based on getting others to join the business! no nothing like that, yes we do like to bring people into the business but this business is based on consumerism if you could buy products from yourself and save yourself from going to the store every Day, week, or month that in turn saves you money that is why Chris and Orrin have tried to get quickstar to lower their prices.
Quickstar did not like this because the guy's on top of their spider web business model were making more money then the rest were of course they would be offended they dont like the Idea that someone could make more out of the business they created. The Team does this for everyone in the business you could make more than Orrin and Chris these guys looked at every business model and implemented ideals that work to make a system that would make a passive residual income. to make EVERY available dollar go to the IBO's. But It takes time it's a 2-5 year success plan. The hardest part for people to understand about this business is that yes you have to work it. it may be rough starting out but you will get to the point that if you work it right, you can quit your nomal crap job and enjoy life. the whole PYRAMID PYRAMID thing is wrong aparrently you dont know our business model. The funny thing is in the industrial age every job were there are employee's it is a PYRAMID SCEME. Dont believe me OK think of factory work you have employees then what team leaders, then group leaders then what, production managers then what, plant managers, then you have District managers and then possibly control managers, then CEO's right. Well if you look where we started lots of employees all the way to the big top Ceo. and guess what he is making the most money right because he's on top of that PYRAMID business. In The Team there is no top and there is no one at the top. Problems is that there is a top that is what we call the industrial corporate ladder. We all or the majority of us grow up with the general "grow up get good grades work your way up the corporate ladder". and it's obvious that everyone is just scared of change. "Chris Brady once said that this country was built by entrepreneurs" and he's right IBO's built this country and They "Chris and Orrin" are just trying to make this country great agian. We build leaders in this business. Leaders get what they work for if they do the right things. But the Average man achieves Nothing thay are stuck with a 45 year plan life that amounts to Nothing and if thats what you want you will achieve nothing and have wasted your life. To work the last of your days at walmart or McDonalds like the rest of the old folks are left with. John Barrymore wrote "A man is not old until his Regrets take place of his Dreams." What will you regret in your life, for most it will be not enjoying life to it's fullest and spending that life with family enough and this business is One that will give you those dreams it just takes time and effort. Too many people want instant success and believe me I would like it too, but in the long run my efforts to build a great business and to change peoples' lives would create a better lifestyle for me and my family and ultimately make me feel better about my life and the things I have done! That is true success in my opinion.
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#17 · Posted: 9 Sep 2007 11:46
Quoting: MatthewTEAM LISTEN UP THE TEAM IS RIGHT ORRIN IS A HERO CHRIS IS ALSO........They have help so many and then you have to go and say that on this post. You should be ashamed of yourself. You might want to change your personal interests.....Christ should not be one of them if you are willing to lie about 100's of 1000's of people that are putting America back in America. ITS CALLED GUTS. You did not go power player and you did not lose $5,000 bucks quite telling things that are not true about the TEAM .......You know nothing. GARBAGE is what you speak.....spreading lies so others will not live their dreams.....You QUIT on your wife and your kids too..... After you get off from working a hard day go in and look at your children and tell them daddy gave up on his goals and Dreams. Daddy is a loser who posts false information for those to judge others by his falures so they will not have their daddy at home either. Oh and by the way $5,000 is what you lost .......you mean you did not file a 1099....its called business expenses. Have you ever been is real business.....if you had $5,000 would be a 1% of your Loses. Sincerely, Matthew Olin Day..... [email protected]
Matthew I don't know how you can even sleep at night knowing that people are getting sucked into SCAMS like the one you are operating, I have always believed in karma & one day you will be made accountable for your actions.
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#18 · Posted: 12 Sep 2007 02:19
Oh Boy, Here we go!!!!
Let me explain my take on "THE TEAM" prior name "TEAM OF DESTINY"
I am a CPA and I have seen it all.........
TOD was started as a "normal" IBO of Quixtar and went into their own thing. Anyone who has been to a meeting will tell you it is not about the products you can sell for Quixtar to make a profit, but the profit you can make signing up others. TOD will deny this, but what do they make from the product line in sales/profits? VERY LITTLE, from what I have seen.
Their money comes from
1> MANDATORY MEETINGS
2>Success Tapes "tools"(some are given out to attract new people)You got to load up your trunk so you always have them. Oh and they get outdated too.
3>Conference tickets
I view the system is a way to make money from others desire to get rich.
Hmmmmm think about this, why do they say that the process is a 2 to 5 year one? How much will you spend if you stick with it for that time? Why do you need to continue to spend and spend during this time with perhaps a 2% return? Hope to get rich? Its just right around the corner? Your not working hard enough? You are not listening to the tapes? What?
It leaves a bitter taste in my mouth when I see client after client sign up and be taken over by the hype.
Most people who sign up are on the verge of loosing their job or are on unemployment. I personally know unemployed people who were encouraged to cash in their 401ks in order to "build their business" NOTE: I am not stating that that was the "teams" doing. But maybe a misguided Upline.
I have seen banruptsy, divorce, and complete breakdowns. I have seen people on the edge of a divorce state that they can't get a job, it will take away from their time to talk to prospects! I have heard them say that "In order to be rich in this, they have to act rich, I can't work a job for 20.00 an hour"
Above posts mention a 5,000.00 loss in the business. HA, I have seen 5 FIGURE LOSSES from people who barely make 5 figures at their current jobs. $23,000.00 Loss with earnings(gross earnings before expenses) of 1,800.00. Currently their loosing their home.
Now I ask you all, IBOs have mentors and they go to meetings, right? As a human, if you knew these people wouldn't you pull them aside and encourage them to call it quits or focus on something else? So why is it not done in this Tem-world? I know I could not watch these people suffer and still tell them to spend more and more.
Max that credit card, refi the house, borrow from family and friends, the INCOME is right around the corner.......
Please, home businesses are great, but there should be SOME reward for your hard work. If you are doing it part-time, you can afford to stick with it for a tme, but PLEASE PLEASE know when to call it quits, you will be the winner in the end and it won't take away your admirable desire to make something better of yourself. And you will
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#19 · Posted: 12 Sep 2007 02:43
wow I must admit you got heart. I have a friend who is involved in the team business and is trying to get me involved as well but after doing my research and reading many reviews I think I am going to stick with affiliate marketing. It's been working great so far. Good post !
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#20 · Posted: 12 Sep 2007 02:52
Goldchamber,
I agree wholeheartedly with your choice!
Best wishes in your affiliate ventures!
Brian
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