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WesKate
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#1 · Posted: 20 Aug 2007 14:00
Just want to know about this company. Saw a webcast about & had a phone presentation on it months ago. I read an article thta is was a scam but it was also one of those side things on google.
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#2 · Posted: 20 Aug 2007 15:17
Not a scam. But it is very similiar to Quixtar/Amway. Tough work and it takes a while to make any money. You are required to purchase a minimum amount of "stuff" - cleaning products, soaps, detergents, vitamins, etc. The money comes from building your team to earn the residual income. Attractive for those interested in healthy living and products. I went to a home demonstration and bought a few things, but my family did not like the smell of the meleulca oil, which is in many of the products. I have a friend who is doing well with it, but you need to know exactly what you will need to put in to it in order to make any kind of money.
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#3 · Posted: 20 Aug 2007 20:33 · Edited by: wapahm
Noreen is right.
This company has been around for a while.
Not a scam.
you do have to build a substantial down line in order to make money.
I do use products that have tea tree oil in them, for example, each school year I wash the kids hair once a week with shampoo and add a couple of drops of tea tree oil. This way they will not get lice!!
(just a little note for mothers of school children)
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#4 · Posted: 20 Aug 2007 23:11 · Edited by: CSGWAHM
Definitely not a scam. They have great products, I use many of them. However, I would not build the business, because it takes a long time to make a significant amount of money. The business I'm in is great for making substantial profits rather quickly.
Wapahm......I know of that tip, I'm glad you mentioned it since lice is so prevalent in the schools.
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#5 · Posted: 20 Aug 2007 23:12
Melaleucca has some really good products and they have been around a long time so there's no way its a scam. A Lot of people try a program and becuase it dosen't work for them they cry scam. When what they should be doing is find a program that can work for them.
Thats what I did I tried Melaleucca and I liked the product but I didn't like they way they built there business so I found a business that worked the way I wanted to build it.
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#6 · Posted: 21 Aug 2007 23:05
Melaleuca is NOT even close to being like Amway/Quixtar. Amway/Quixtar is multilevel marketing and Melaleuca is Consumer Direct Marketing. There are big difference there. Melaleuca does not have distributors. Thank God for that, been there/done that-No Fun. With Melaleuca you share a concept with folk and show them how to use safer, healthier products. Melaleuca products are so safe around your children, your pets; they will never be in harms way. Who doesn't want to keep their children, pets, themselves safe from toxins?
All your life you have referral agent for someone, store, restaurant, a doctor etc, but never received a paycheck for it. With Melaleuca, you actually are paid for referrals. I work with a team and one of the ladies tried Amway, 3 makeup companies, a lingerie business, pot/pan company, and 8 other businesses and this was the business that worked for her. Doing this business now for 7-years, last week she received a 5-figure check for one month. That was awesome. Another lady on my team worked with Amway for 12-years and her biggest check was $350. Being with Melaleuca in 3-years she was making a high 4-figure a month.
Amway/Quixtar you have to attend meetings, pay for the meeting room, buy books, tapes, CD etc. People went into debt. Remember the Dateline news review about 4-years ago. I was with my team for 2-years before I even knew we had CD's and the cost $3.99 IF you want to purchase. Melaleuca has 2 meetings per year; they are not mandatory. There are no fees attached if you attend and very seldom do you have to pay for your parking (it's rare when you do).
The products are awesome, about 400. The products are non-toxic and can be verified by Poison Control. It really does not take a large downline to make money. If you refer 8 people to the company in 1 month, your first check can be as much as $500 payable the next month. That's not bad for 8 referrals and you have not sold, delivered any products or collected any money. Most people who really work at the business can replace their income within 26 months; some have done it in just a few months. It depends on your time and effort. With the other, only the people at the top made all the money. This 22-year old family oriented company wants to enhance the lives of people and the goal is to keep families together and get them out of debt and keep them debt free. The company offers a money back guarantee of 120 days on the business kit of $29 and 60 to 90 days on all products and those are empty container guarantees.
It does take work and those who are successful sacrifice a few activities for a while, but we also calendar in our family time. We work at home so we can spend more time with our families and enjoy what's most important to us � family. I invite people to take the journey. I love my job. I worked for a major airline for 23-years and the only time I loved that job was the first 5-years. The last 10-years we saw cutbacks and no one wants to see their checks get smaller.
Email me, I would love to talk to you.
Mary
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#7 · Posted: 22 Mar 2008 22:04
I do think it's a good company. I've been with them for 3 years and I'm brining in about $200-300 mon. My first month I referred 11 customers and my check was $256. Not sure how 8 referrals can bring in $500, unless they were all buying Value Packs. Like one of the post above said. I'm a little disappointed, because I'm considered D3, but I'm a Director now and I don't get my full pay. They have a maximum amount they pay which is $250, so if I make more than that, then I don't get any of that which is over $250. So I've lost almost $200 off a check because of the cap they have.
The biggest thing I run into is that alot of people don't want to commit to 35 product points. Even though they are purchasing things they already buy. I have been consistently working my business. When you are a director you do have to go up to 75 product points each month, which is usually around $130-140 mon.
But they do have great products and their are many who are successful with the business! It's all up to you! The time and effort you put into sharing it.
I have just recently started with a different company, because I like the fact that customers don't have to buy so much each month, they can buy when and how much they want. I also like their compensation as well. It gives the customer more freedom and the funny thing is they will shop more or even put something on autoship, which is another nice thing, because they have that option. Of course we all have are own opinions, you just need to find what works best for you and your family!
Good Luck!!
Please don't take this as downgrading the company, that's defintitely not my intentions. I'm just a straight forward person. I don't like to run around the bush.
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#8 · Posted: 24 Mar 2008 08:45
momsoffice: I do think it's a good company. I've been with them for 3 years and I'm brining in about $200-300 mon. My first month I referred 11 customers and my check was $256.
This is my take on Melaluca.
Other MLM's as well, but we are talking about Mel here.
(yeah right, Melaleuca is not an MLM!!)
So much talk about buying their products!
Not much in the way of earnings.
I mean, $300 per month after THREE YEARS!?
And before Mel supporters get too touchy, we are talking BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES here - as in how to MAKE MONEY, not opportunities to buy products.
I'd like to see the stats on how many people actually earn money - and how much, with Melaleuca.
The amount of TIME it takes to do so is also important.
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#9 · Posted: 24 Mar 2008 12:43
To me every single business out there is MLM. My goodness look how everything is set up, Wal-Mart, Target Restaurants, etc. guess who makes more money than everyone..... But there are companies that you can start with and make alot of money without having to be the first one to start! I personally know of people who replaced their income in 6 months and replaced their husbands income in a year!
If you noticed I started with another company because I wasn't happy with only making that much a mon. But I wasn't going to downgrade them because I know people are doing VERY WELL!! And it's a very legitmate company.
I don't care if you call it MLM, network marketing, DS, whatever it may be it's all the same. It's a very good business model! Just ask Wal-Mart.
Maybe it didn't work for others, but it doesn't mean nobody can make an income. I have seen several!!
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#10 · Posted: 24 Mar 2008 13:26
Hello guys , i would like to mention one fact .that is .. this is a big draw back with 1 up systems .. you will have to make a ARMY of people under you inorder to make a measley amount sometimes it can be very demotivating ,... so as far as i know i stay away from such programs and concentrate more on money making ones ...
TJamMoneyMan: And before Mel supporters get too touchy, we are talking BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES here - as in how to MAKE MONEY, not opportunities to buy products.
i totally agree with this point made by TJAM ... we are here to make money and not buy products which we dnt need ..
anyways nutin against the company .. but thats my view
hope i made a point ... if you need any help feel free to contact me ..
cheers...
rameez.
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#11 · Posted: 27 Mar 2008 07:20
momsoffice: To me every single business out there is MLM. My goodness look how everything is set up, Wal-Mart, Target Restaurants, etc.
That's a bit of a stretch IMHO.
If you open a lemonade stand, is that an MLM?
Ridiculous example?
Not really.
If you buy something, and then turn around and sell it yourself, where are the 'multi-levels'?
MLM products, everyone of them, are ridiculously OVERPRICED, apparently because of all the 'multi-levels' involved - people who have to get PAID.
It's one thing to have to pay for the cost of production, distribution, employees salaries, profit etc. ONLY.
But all those costs still have to be covered with MLM sales, PLUS, the many levels of payout that have to be made.
One thing I have asked Melaleuca promoters for, is a clear cut, concise DEFINITION (they'll send you a 'comparison chart'), of their Consumer Direct Marketing concept.
The last time I checked CDM was a TRADEMARK of Melaleuca (which may explain why Melaleuca is the ONLY CDM in the world - their claim not mine).
Or how about a definition of MLM - before they say that Melaleuca is or is not, one or the other.
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#12 · Posted: 27 Mar 2008 11:27
My ex-girlfriend tried it for awhile. She did not know what she was getting into. I did not give her much encouragement. I thought it was an ok program as far as multi-level marketing goes but I thought the products were too expensive making them hard to sell. Many Items were in "concentrated" form, which made them seem even more expensive - tough stuff to sell - imhop.
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#13 · Posted: 7 Apr 2008 11:14
I was with Mela. First thing they want you to do is make a list of friends and family (the warm market approach). I had no family in the area and had just moved into the area, so warm market was out also.
I ended up having to buy leads, which I Don't recommend anyone doing, but I didn't know any better at the time. Lots of cold calls to people who supposedly were interested in a home based business. Most of my leads either didn't have a clue why I was calling, had been called 100 times by other people or were just looking for a JOB not a biz opp.
I was also told NOT to say MLM, but direct to the consumer. To me, this is a half truth. Yes purchasing is direct to the consumer, but as already stated in this thread, the compensation plan is MLM. I don't care for misleading people and this definitely is misleading in my book.
There's a lot of talk about how the BIG GUYS don't have to list all the harmful substances in their products, and we were supposed to use that fact as a PLUS, but the truth of the matter is Mela doesn't have to list all the stuff they put in theirs either.
Just as a side not, not long ago, out of curiosity to know who the company was behind one of these "MOM" sites (even though I had a good feeling already about who the company was) I completed the capture form and waited for the call.
The woman who called was very nice, gave me the spill on "I don't have but a minute...." (same script I was given to use), invited me to get on a webinar, so I asked out right... "I would just like to know what company you represent" When she told me Mela and I said I had already been there, done that... then she all of a sudden had all the time in the world to try to talk me into coming back UNDER her team.
Even though I told her no thank you, I still ended up getting about 10 more 'join me, you're missing out, etc" type emails before I asked her to please remove me from her email list.
I would never say Mela is a scam, but I prefer to deal in truths and when you are misleading people from the get-go eventually that know, like and trust is going to deteriorate. PLUS I would not say that after 3 years, I'm making about 300 per month is a good thing. There are companies out there with better comp plans and if you are really working your business, after 3 years, you should be making way more than that.
~just my two cents from having been there .. done that.
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#14 · Posted: 8 Apr 2008 18:52
JenniferF: I was also told NOT to say MLM, but direct to the consumer. To me, this is a half truth. Yes purchasing is direct to the consumer, but as already stated in this thread, the compensation plan is MLM
HILARIOUS!!!
Do a 'google search' of the term CONSUMER DIRECT MARKETING.
It is registered with the US Register of Trademarks and Patents.
It is a MELALEUCA TRADEMARK!
They tell you about M being the 'only business of it's kind' a CONSUMER DIRECT MARKETING structure, NOT an MLM!!
"There are no other CDM companies in the world", they proudly proclaim.
But of course, CDM is what they call themselves - their own trademark!
OF COURSE, there are no other CDM's!
CDM means nothing.
It is how Melaleuca describes their company.
Their AKA name.
Nothing more.
That wouldn't even matter much, except for all the lies and secrecy they build around it.
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#15 · Posted: 8 Apr 2008 19:31
There's another MLM out there that claiming to not be MLM - they call themselves "the non-franchise franchise". I hadn't googled that but now wonder if they have done the same as Mela...
There's also a shopping site that claims they are not MLM... what's with these people? Anyway, sorry... this is way off topic...
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#16 · Posted: 11 Apr 2008 08:19 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
JenniferF: There's also a shopping site that claims they are not MLM... what's with these people? Anyway, sorry... this is way off topic...
They are obviously trying to distance themselves from the well earned negative stigma of MLM's.
MLM's will call themselves just about ANYTHING other than an MLM.
They will go to great lengths to get your involvement without even telling you who they are, let alone that they are just another MLM.
I don't think this is off topic Jennifer.
I think this forum is about presenting information about legitimate business opps, and exposing scam in marketing.
On the other hand, I could be wrong.
Apparently, many people use this forum just to advertise!
As for scams, I don't think it's as simple as 'this or that, is a scam or not'.
We all know of lies and liars, who rarely talk 100% B.S.
They usually have a measure of truth and validity, if only as a vehicle for their dishonest agenda.
There is a degree of scam, is what I am getting at.
Many MLM's do indeed have good products to offer, but the other parts of their plan don't live up to the promise.
To the degree that a person, plan, or program is deceptive, or dishonest.
Or will simply NEVER live up to the claims, is the degree of scam.
Of course, many would say, correctly, that even one teaspoon of sewage, turns a vat of pure water, into sewage.
But of course, one teaspoon of water, in a vat of sewage, and you still have a vat of sewage.
The only saving grace with a business opp. that is part scam however, is that you MAY be able to get some value from it, to some degree.
Melaleuca makes good products, which I am tired of hearing about, but the rest of their plan is questionable at best, with a good percentage of straight-up scam included.
If you want good, overpriced products, look into MLM's!
If you want a good business opportunity beware of the scam percentage!
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#17 · Posted: 11 Apr 2008 13:25
TJam,
Your points are right on. I don't think I could have said it any better if I had elaborated rather than just being a bit frustrated with the deception factor. However, sometimes it is better if I say less than more. So thanks!
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#18 · Posted: 12 Apr 2008 18:58
JenniferF: However, sometimes it is better if I say less than more. So thanks!
Something I am trying to learn how to do myself!
So thanx 2u2 Jennifer!
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#19 · Posted: 26 May 2008 10:10
Melaleuca is not a "get rich quick" scheme. If you work, you will see some income. The more/longer you keep going, the more income you will see. I started with Melaleuca in Sept. 06, built my business for three months and due to personal reasons, stopped working. Melaleuca continued to pay residual income for the work I had done.
I've started working my business again, because I truly believe the products are fabulous. They are non-toxic, family friendly, environmentally friendly, and things I use every day, so I'm not spending "extra money" just to get them. (I brush my teeth, shampoo my hair, wash dishes and clothes, and clean my house; nothing too out of the ordinary). The monthly commitment is about $60.00 until you have referred 8 people, then goes up to about $120.00. It never goes up from there.
My paycheck has increased, and I know, as I continue to work and grow my business, my paycheck will also continue to grow. (I have never heard of a cap on earnings with Melaleuca, I do know many people who are making five and six figure incomes - there are people who make seven figures, but I don't know them personally, but I can call and talk to people who make over $500,000 a year).
Many of the products are concentrated, which I consider a bonus. I can and do add tap water, which is great. Do you know how expensive shipping that extra water weight would be? I don't need to pay that. Also, with concentrated products, there is less packaging and therefore, less waste. And, with concentrated products, you don't need to use as much, so while a bottle of cleaner might be similarly priced to what you buy in the store, you get more uses, so the price per use is lower.
Many people who chose to shop with Melaleuca do so because the products are wonderful. Making money is an option for those who desire it. If you'd like more information about the company, I'd be willing to discuss it with you.
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#20 · Posted: 29 May 2008 01:14
I've tried it before but not with much luck. I just didn't like having to buy $50.00 a month worth of stuff. But I have heard it has worked for others though.
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