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BillyMarkham Forums Member
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#21 · Posted: 20 Mar 2010 19:21
The search engines are intentionally locked down with testimonial-hype spam. People's negative reviews are not the only thing that is missing from the searches. The main thing that is missing is any kind of rational information or credible article.
However, from a general perspective, that is not the only thing that arouses suspicion. In this discussion, we cannot come to a conclusion on whether the thing works, time will tell.
Rather, can anyone answer me these simple questions: 1) Why would a company that has produced the new "miracle" and "paradigm shift" have no conclusive evidence to show other than testimonials? 2) Why would their biggest distributors stage the same manipulated demos (or rather parlor tricks) over and over in order to try to convince someone that the product works? 3) Why can no one explain how it works, or what it is made of?
And so on and so forth. There is an air of questionable verity around every aspect of this Amega business. In other words, if you can see someone making a living by intentionally tricking people into believing that something is true, would you trust that person? Would you do business with them and trust them to make you healthy?
I understand how difficult it is to take that step and look at things objectively if you are already financially and perhaps emotionally involved with the Amega show. The Amega Zero Point energy wand business is founded on deception (doesn't that define a scam or fraud?). Because even if the thing works for you, you still got lied to.
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#22 · Posted: 20 Mar 2010 20:05 · Edited by: FREEBUSINESSES
BillyMarkham: The search engines are intentionally locked down with testimonial-hype spam. People's negative reviews are not the only thing that is missing from the searches. The main thing that is missing is any kind of rational information or credible article Are you serious? Come on, now that statement borders on absurd. Are you saying Google is blocking any search with a negative slant? You evidently are clueless about Google and search engines. I am a long time SEO strategist, and I can guarantee you, Google does not block any search engine results, good, bad and ugly, it is all there to be found on any subject you are researching, so try it, put in anything you want in search engines and it is all there, including scams as you seem to want to think Amega is.
There is a ton of information on zero point fusion scalar information from several sources, not just Amega, and as to studies, there are many, and soon, you will see more published by third parties, but no one can expect miracles, this is science, and just as with acupuncture, thousands experienced results, yet you could not find any third party studies in the initial stages when introduced to western medicine which is tied to the hip of pharmaceutical industry, so what would you expect.
What are you even here for anyhow, are you with a competing health or nutritional company. Why don't you identify your intent to attack what you obviously have no knowledge of. You want studies, great, but you wouldn't believe the ones from Amega, so why bother. You will just have to wait for the thrid party blind test studies, but in the mean time, hundreds of thousands of people are seeing and feeling results, many almost instantly, so be a doubter, I appreciate skeptics, but come on, your opening statement makes no sense at all to think search engines are blocking any and all negative posts on Amega.
And who is tricking who? I stated that most are demonstrating the Health-Wand on dozens of people without mandating they make a purchase, so what is this, tricking people into experiencing results before and if they purchase it themselves. I have heard nothing but positive results, and if someone doesn't, they return it, so where is this unethical as you seem to want to indicate with your slanted statements. You are not a customer, you have no gripe, so why are you here?
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GoldenRule Forums Member
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#23 · Posted: 21 Mar 2010 17:29
Greetings,
My research into The Amega Wand led me to this forum and thread. I am very interested in "Zero Point Energy" "Source Energy" " AMized Fusion Technology"and all of the explanations I see in the video demonstrations.
I am not a stranger to these terms. having studied, worked, and researched "Energy" healing since 1979. My avocation in Hypnosis for over 40 years has given me some experience with the Power of Suggestion...in pain relief.
Am I a skeptic? Lets just say I have seen no demonstration yet that have not involved The Power of Suggestion to produce results. When that happens I will become a dealer. As for now I probably have the only Amega Wand site with nothing for sale.
Note:The Power of Suggestion usually has nothing to do with being gullible. In most cases it works best on intelligent people, who are open to new concepts and ideas. If it were not for the Power of Suggestion nothing would ever be sold.
But what about The famous"Corky the Dog" video that distributors are using to discount the Power of Suggestion. A few more animal miracles could swing my vote. After seeing "Corky" I expected an explosion of animal testimonial videos. "Corky" had serious hip pain and problems walking. Gets "Wanded"and walks much better.
Everyone knows a dog in pain. Wouldn't an animals pain relief demonstration be the most convincing evidence yet?
I have no doubts the results are real. I also don't care how the results are produced. If your pain is gone and stays gone and you are happy with the Amega Wand. Good for You.
IF you want to sell the product based on your personal experience and belief that it works for you, and MAY work on others, fine, go for it. But why not at least consider the "something going on" in demonstration videos may not be Zero Point Energy.
I have some serious doubts that AmGlobal has found a way to place the power of "Zero Point Energy" or "Source" energy into a "Wand"
I am willing to be convinced. Please bring on more animal video testimonials and I'll suspend my disbelief.
Again I have no doubt that the participants in the demonstrations or Amega Wand users in this forum do experience pain relief.
Regards, GR
PS Don't get me started on the Lemon/Wine demos except as really great examples of the Power of Suggestion.
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#24 · Posted: 21 Mar 2010 19:45
What do you think of the scientific studies on Vioxx? A lot of good those studies did on the thousands of people who were killed taking Vioxx. And it doesn't stop there.... Follow the money...with so-called "scientific studies." Brainwash. People have been conditioned (by the media, gov't, FDA, AMA, pharmaceutical, disease insurance cartel) to think, "oh, where's the 'scientific study' without thinking about all the studies that really came up bogus in the end." Too many to name here. I don't care if it is the placebo effect, the wand, zero-point energy, the water I had with my dinner, somebody saying 'hocus pocus', or that a raindrop fell on my head in and around the time I used the wand, if my pain is gone or even reduced, that is all I care about. Simple. Everything else is rhetoric--same ole, same ole. Yawn.
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BillyMarkham Forums Member
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#25 · Posted: 22 Mar 2010 18:28
FREEBUSINESSES: What are you even here for anyhow, are you with a competing health or nutritional company. Why don't you identify your intent to attack what you obviously have no knowledge of. Thank you for asking. I am an independent third party, with no vested interests in any health company or any part of the health products industry. So my opinion is the most objective of all. I just don't like to see honest people being lied to. I've got an allergy to bull@#$*, a few minutes of free time, and the motivation to make the world a better place. It doesn't require any special knowledge in quantum physics or energy healing to tell a lie.
FREEBUSINESSES: You evidently are clueless about Google and search engines. I am a long time SEO strategist, and I can guarantee you, Google does not block any search engine results, good, bad and ugly, it is all there to be found on any subject you are researching, so try it, put in anything you want in search engines and it is all there, including scams as you seem to want to think Amega is. That is a very strange comment... You evidently are intentionally trying to obfuscate the facts by calling me stupid (a personal comment, not very mature, frankly). Never did I say that Google is blocking anything. I am well aware of how search engines work. Being an SEO specialist yourself, you can explain to us how to lock the search engines down with spam, and the definition of spam. Mind you, the "scientific explanations" in the videos don't actually explain anything to anyone, and you know that. They are series of images intended to confuse and impress with gobbledigook explanations.
scientificstudy, if you pain goes away it doesn't mean it happened due to the wand. You can see the same results by doing a few Qigong exercises. Those have been around for thousands of years. Give it a shot, it's free, and it doesn't rely on an inanimate object.
I understand your point of view as well, freebusiness. You are making money proliferating this product and it is in your best interest to diffuse the discussion and stray it away from the questions that I posed.
I answered yours, so be so kind as to answer mine.
Once again:
1) Why would a company that has produced the new "miracle" and "paradigm shift" have no conclusive evidence to show other than testimonials? 2) Why would their biggest distributors stage the same manipulated demos (or rather parlor tricks) over and over in order to try to convince someone that the product works? 3) Why can no one explain how it works, or what it is made of?
P.S. As a test (I dare you), take two plates of lemons, wand one, keep the other one in another room. Invite your friends over (20 or 30 would be enough). Do not tell them anything about the wand or what you did to the lemons. Get them to try a lemon from each plate and then write down on a piece paper which plate was sweeter, without telling anyone. Count up the votes for both plates and you will have an unbiased opinion on the flavor of the lemons. That is what a real test looks like. If the lemons are truly sweeter, then the results would clearly show that. On another note, the flavor of the lemons can be examined by simple chemical analysis. Flavor is dictated by the chemistry of the lemon. The more sweet molecules there are the sweeter it is. If the wand changes the molecular structure of the lemon, then you would be able to do a before and after test showing the chemical content of the lemon.
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FREEBUSINESSES Forums Member
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#26 · Posted: 22 Mar 2010 21:02
BillyMarkham: That is a very strange comment... You evidently are intentionally trying to obfuscate the facts by calling me stupid (a personal comment, not very mature, frankly). Never did I say that Google is blocking anything. I am well aware of how search engines work. Being an SEO specialist yourself, you can explain to us how to lock the search engines down with spam, and the definition of spam. Mind you, the "scientific explanations" in the videos don't actually explain anything to anyone, and you know that. They are series of images intended to confuse and impress with gobbledigook explanations. scientificstudy, if you pain goes away it doesn't mean it happened due to the wand. You can see the same results by doing a few Qigong exercises. Those have been around for thousands of years. Give it a shot, it's free, and it doesn't rely on an inanimate object. I understand your point of view as well, freebusiness. You are making money proliferating this product and it is in your best interest to diffuse the discussion and stray it away from the questions that I posed. I answered yours, so be so kind as to answer mine. Once again: 1) Why would a company that has produced the new "miracle" and "paradigm shift" have no conclusive evidence to show other than testimonials? 2) Why would their biggest distributors stage the same manipulated demos (or rather parlor tricks) over and over in order to try to convince someone that the product works? 3) Why can no one explain how it works, or what it is made of? P.S. As a test (I dare you), take two plates of lemons, wand one, keep the other one in another room. Invite your friends over (20 or 30 would be enough). Do not tell them anything about the wand or what you did to the lemons. Get them to try a lemon from each plate and then write down on a piece paper which plate was sweeter, without telling anyone. Count up the votes for both plates and you will have an unbiased opinion on the flavor of the lemons. That is what a real test looks like. If the lemons are truly sweeter, then the results would clearly show that. On another note, the flavor of the lemons can be examined by simple chemical analysis. Flavor is dictated by the chemistry of the lemon. The more sweet molecules there are the sweeter it is. If the wand changes the molecular structure of the lemon, then you would be able to do a before and after test showing the chemical content of the lemon. __________________ "...they must find it difficult, those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority." Talk about gobblidygook, where did I ever call you stupid? There is nothing stupid about asking questions, but you clearly have an agenda to obfuscate anything I post, so have fun. What people are experiencing could very well be placebo effect, and as long as I am not selling anything, simply collecting results, and what happens if a person sees results is their decision whether they want to purchase anything.
Some still think acupuncture is placebo, and no one will convince them otherwise, just as nothing will ever convince you even with all the scientific third party blind studies in the world. I have seen many things which cannot be explained by science to date, so I rely on first hand experience more than here say as should everyone, so you have made up your mind, as I have mine, when something changes it, I will say it like it is.
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#27 · Posted: 23 Mar 2010 18:31
Why do you try so hard not to answer my questions?
Again?
1) Why would a company that has produced the new "miracle" and "paradigm shift" have no conclusive evidence to show other than testimonials? 2) Why would their biggest distributors stage the same manipulated demos (or rather parlor tricks) over and over in order to try to convince someone that the product works? 3) Why can no one explain how it works, or what it is made of?
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#28 · Posted: 23 Mar 2010 19:20
Interesting,
Now I have to ask, are you stupid? You posted a lie that I called you stupid, so am I suppose to answer your questions when I don't even get an apology for your mistatement. Your agenda is obvious, you have no interest in the technology, you are not going to purchase anything and even if all the science was third party peer reviewed, you would still not be satisfied, so why would I want to waste my time posting what few if anyone are interested in, other than you. lol
There is nothing for me to answer as I am not the inventor or science research team who worked on this for past fifteen years, not can I verify the above. I am also not advocating, as you call, the parlor tricks. Yes, it does work, but only if you taste the treated lemon slices first as I had explained before. I did a blind test without identifying which lemon slices were wanded, but I did it for my verification, and I used several family members without any ulterior motive of selling anyone since no one had any pain issues. Who relaly cares about altering the flavor of a lemon anyhow?
I was more interested in the DNA study provided by company, which was sent to me, for this is all I am interested in, proof that a change in molecular structure is seen when exposed to the zero point energy, you can see it under microscope, but do I know this test is absolute, no, so it is not up to me to prove anything to you or anyone else as it is heresay. I believe only what I see or can feel, which I have, so do I really care what happens to a lemone of DNA molecules. The physicist stated this was the first time he witnessed a change in DNA strand, and as he reported, and defined as a neg-entropic effect. The DNA helix had been effected in all three axes. So do I know what this means? No, and when he witnessed and documents the winding of DNA strands which he stated is indicator of vitality of DNA strand. Do I know what this report means, no. DNA deterioration tends to unwind strands which is a sign of it dying, and again, I do not know what this report is proving or not proving as I am not a PhD.
Bottom line, people only care about results, while you only care about the science, and if anyone were to sell such a technology based on learning how to technically identify and qualify what zero point energy is doing to enhance and extend the life of our cells and DNA strand, no one would be interested. People are only interested in results, just as I was. I understand more than most as to why it works, but to think I would sell it on explaining the technology is insain. Again, people only care about one thing, will it help them or not, end of story.
As to what it is made of, crystal materials of specific frequencies are stacked in a specific combination to achieve zero point energy which effects short and long wave lenght of matter. Now do I care what materials are used to achieve this wave length influence on matter? No, again, it is all about what works and doesn't work for people and pets. Do you really think anyone would purchase this if it did not help them? I know I wouldn't, just as I wouldn't sell it without seeing personal results, and not only have I seen results on my own bum knee, I have seen others I passed it out to see similar results. No one cares about the science or what is in it, they want results, and that is why people are purchasing them, not because of the science or technology used in the manufacturing of Health-Wand. Results is all anyone I have met cares about.
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#29 · Posted: 23 Mar 2010 23:31 · Edited by: bosco
BillyMarkham: 1) Why would a company that has produced the new "miracle" and "paradigm shift" have no conclusive evidence to show other than testimonials? 2) Why would their biggest distributors stage the same manipulated demos (or rather parlor tricks) over and over in order to try to convince someone that the product works? 3) Why can no one explain how it works, or what it is made of? You are selling something too, Billy. Your paradigm.
1) What "conclusive proof" would you accept? How is a large number of dramatic testimonials not evidence that something interesting is going on that warrants your open mindedness?
There's an interesting thing about "proof". When enough evidence is accepted by enough people it begins to become "proof". Things that have been proven may not in fact be true. Other things that have yet to be proven may very well, in fact, be true.
So do you mean proof is the AMA has not endorsed it? The AMA has a history of outright lying about homeopathy, chiropractic, ayurvedic, acupuncture, naturopathy and organic nutrition -- Not to mention lying and fraud to boost their more times than not, unnecessary drugs, radiation and surgeries.
Vioxx is a great example but just a drop in the bucket. The "scientific" testing that justifies the licensing of most drugs is one big fraud after another.
Every time there has been a doctor's strike anywhere in the world, the mortality rate drops. If this wand (which I am just now hearing about) only causes people to get off these toxins then I'm all for it, in most cases.
The only "proof" you would is accept, evidently, is the kind of "scientific" proof that confirm that Vioxx was a good drug that humanity needed.
The arbiters of your "proof" are biased against real evidence and are in direct competition with them and are known as the medical mafia who would hire a hit on you rather than let you share your instant cure for what ails humankind (if you were ever to find it).
I don't believe you are the least bit interested in truth, Billy. You are only concerned about protecting your paradigm at any cost.
Are you kidding that google gets locked down by anybody? Don't you know the same SEO that is dominating google SERPs with positive reports could easily create negative reports if there were people out there who wanted to spread their negative perspective?
Locked down? Sheesh.
And what this about pet owners being able to make their pets better with their tone of voice and body language? Then why did they take them to the vet that your wife works at in the first place?
No, pets are even better subjects for this kind of testing because your can't try to pinpoint it on placebo affect.
And besides, research is showing that the placebo affect actually creates physiological changes in our brains and bodies. If there is some wand that can jump-start my brain and body into alleviating pain and healing myself, I'm not going to try to talk myself out of it, even if it makes me adjust my paradigm. I'm big mature enough to appreciate I don't know everything and I'm not emotionally invested in maintaining the status quo... when this kind of progress is available.
You want to see the proof of the AMA? Check out this story about an outbreak of the mumps in New York late 2009 / early 2010 where 80% of the ill had received the standard 2 shot treatment MRM vaccination. The AMA looked at the data and concluded the evidence indicates that the SOP needs to be changed to make it a 3 part treatment, not a 2 part vaccination.
http://www.naturalnews.com/028422_vaccines_quackery.html
There you have it. Proof that the reason the vaccinations didn't work is they didn't have enough and more is needed.
Of course, logic would dictate that is 80% of the people who got mumps had received the vaccination, then it is not only ineffective, but dangerous and causes what it purports to prevent. But I guess you will wait for the peer review journal to confirm that the NY medical officials are correct and the protocol needs to be changes to 3 vaccinations. Why bother with the evidence of the personal experience of these patients. All they can provide is mere "testimonials".
So please Billy, tell us, what "PROOF" you will accept. Who are the arbiters of this proof? And why we would believe them when they are the very people who have the most to lose from people being healed and not being in pain? -- And when they have a 100 year track record of lies and fraud and causing exponentially, more pain and death than health and cures?
And why is EXPERIENCE not considered evidence in your paradigm? Why wouldn't you be interested in experiencing it first hand rather than lashing out that it can't be real? What better proof would there be than if you experienced it and confirmed that it works?
From what I've read here, big time skeptics have completely switched their opinions once they personally experienced it.
2) Why do you can personal demonstrations "parlor tricks" when the truth is, personal experience is the best proof of all?
3) Can no one explain it, really? Or is it you can't accept the explanations because they don't fit into your limited teeny paradigm that no longer serves humanity?
Perhaps it's also a proprietary issue as well. I dunno.
Perhaps much of it even defies the manufacturers. I'm not familiar with this, , but I do know science as we understand it, doesn't explain a lot of things that exist, nonetheless. (Has science gotten around to explaining how bumbles bee fly yet? If not, they must be parlor tricks.)
And on the other hand, there are explanations for a lot of things, that mainstream science is not ready to accept because they are the practitioners of "science" are hopelessly defending & protecting their precious little outdated paradigms that their huge egos are desperately clinging too.
I use a terminator zapper from orgoniseafrica.net (also available at worldwithoutparasites.com). I keep healthy and away from the posions of the AMA by using this. Every person I have loaned it to has gotten over their symptoms in very short order using it, including some dramatic cases, like a little boy suffering dangerous high fever for days on end that the hospital and doctors couldn't help.
Even the basic Hulda Clark zappers have cured thousands of cases of cancer. But the only "proof" is the patients whose cancers have been cured.
Dr. Clark went to jail and fought to stay out of prison, unlike others who have cured cancer.
The "proof" you will accept is not coming Billy. But if you or a loved one gets diagnosed with cancer, you'll probably do yourself a big favor to stay away from the AMA and get a zapper. Terminator zappers are the best.
I know I"m taking this off topic but since you have such an issue with "paradigm shift" I think it's germane.
There is a meditative / acupressure / affirmation modality called EFT that has brought about major healings in body, spirit and mind. You tap along acupuncture meridian points making affirmative, acceptance statements. The results are often paradigm shifting and downright miraculous.
I had a problem with my right arm for 20 years, stemming from an injury. Caused a lot of pain when I lifted anything remotely heavy.
The EFT slogan is, "try it on everything" so I thought, what the heck, not expecting to get results. I got results the first night and it got better every night until a week later, I felt no pain no matter how much weight I lifted. 3 years later and all is well.
People use this for personal breakthroughs in their life. Overcoming previous limitations. Improving relationships. Making money. Overcoming traumatic events. Getting over several disabilities caused by violence and abuse against them from childhood, etc.
Some people make money instructing others how to do it. Many therapist make money with it since they incorporate it into their practice.
Billy, how do I know you already are sure this is all BS even though this is probably the first you are hearing of it? (And here I thought you prided yourself on your rationality.)
Back to the cancer discussion...
More people die from cancer treatment than die from cancer. That is to say, on average, people with cancer would live longer if they did nothing other than staying away from allopathic medicine. It's the chemo and the radiation and the surgeries and the drugs that end up doing the person in before the cancer would have done so on its own, more times than not.
As long as I"m on a roll here:
Mammograms create breast cancer by violently squishing breast tissue bursting tiny non malignant cysts which would have been fine just left alone, but once burst and dosed with radiation, turn cancerous.. Mammograms create thousands of false positive every year subjecting healthy women to cancer treatments which often make them extremely sick and sometimes kill them.
Blueberries lower cholesterol better than statin drugs which create chronic aliments and call for more toxic drugs to deal with the contraindications.
Most diabetes is preventable and curable by organic, supplemental nutrition.
Vitamin D, especially via sunlight can cure and prevent 80% of cancer. I wonder why doctors tell us to keep out of the sun. Eh?
This stuff is extremely big business and if you think the system that creates this kind of largess for itself is going to provide you with the official "proof" you need to know if there are paradigm shifting alternatives out there, Billy, then you are naive and childlike.
I like your test regarding the lemons, and I'm certainly open to the possibility that suggestion comes into play on that test, but dramatic testimonials of vanquished pain that lasts and lasting bodily healings is evidence that you should open your mind to, instead of pretending like you know everything, which clearly you don't.
But after surmising how your mind works, if that lemon test was done by your
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#30 · Posted: 24 Mar 2010 00:13
Got cut off --
There are studies with living tissue and studies with dna where they were divided into 2 parts, and separated by distances. Things that were done to part of the samples were reflected in the other parts, over as large distances as they took them.
How's your paradigm holding up?
I believe the DNA research is also documented in the Holographic Mind and the tissue experiments were done by Cleve Baxter, and others.
Then there's the classic Russian experiment from the 1960's in their early ESP research where they hooked a mother rabbit up to an EEG to document her brainwaves and took her babies on a submarine over vast distances. Every time they killed one of the rabbits the mother rabbits brainwaves reacted wildly.
More paradigm shifting material for you, Billy. How's your world holding up, there?
Billy, I've been long winded and obnoxious in direct proportion to the brow beating you've given everyone reading this thread.
It's clear to me you have boxed yourself in to a very limited understand on reality and you aren't happy unless you can lash out against others who have done done the same.
Hows that working out for you?
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#31 · Posted: 25 Mar 2010 18:57
Update:
And the positive results just keep coming in, so as I see it, the 17% that are effected by the placebo effect in all the research I have found, I must have found only this group to date for they all have seen dramatic decrease in pain after only one treatment. Could this be true, no, I have to admit, I am still amazed at my results, but hey, the guy that introduced it to me said to just try it, and I am glad I did, second treatment in six weeks duplicated the first results, pain is again gone, so I will be curious to see if it lasts longer this time.
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#32 · Posted: 27 Mar 2010 15:09
Freebusiness, I would like to see your info on how to spot a knock-off wand vs the legitimate ones. Lots of cheap wands out there, as one would expect, so it would be nice to be able to tell the difference.
Honestly, I DON'T like the price tag on these due to amega's MLM structure... Legit wands should be $100 each, IMO.
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American Dream Forums Member
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#33 · Posted: 29 Mar 2010 02:34
I found this on another site... http://www3.news.gov.hk/isd/ebulletin/en/category/healthandcommunity/091016/html/091016en05009 .htm
Would someone like to explain...
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#34 · Posted: 29 Mar 2010 17:04
I was excited to get my wand from amega. I paid a outrageous amount $304. But I suffer from severe chronic pain from a spina cord injury. I ripped the box open about a week ago, when I finally got it. It took 5 weeks to get here. I wanded the effected area. NOTHING. I wanded it again, NOTHINg, I have been wanding the effected area for the entire week several times per day. Nothing. I have done the lemon test, sliced it up, put it on two plates, wanded one, then went around the house, with 5 people. ALL of them, said that there was absolutism no difference in flavor. I have tried wine, nothing. I am starting a garden with lots of each veggie. I split them up, and water one side with wanded water, and the other without wanding the water. THEY ARE BOTH GROWING THE SAME. I went over to my dads who has a chronic back pain. NOTHING. Tried cheap wine, no change.
THIS IS A HUGE SCAM FOLKS.
The ones who say it works, are the scammer's who want to sell them!!!
DO NOT BUY.
SCAm
SCAM
SCAM all the way!!!!!
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#35 · Posted: 29 Mar 2010 19:11
FREEBUSINESSES
When I found out about this Amega wand I searched the internet looking for more info. I found someone in my area offering weekly sessions for free to test the wand before deciding to use it in her business. Since I suffer from back and shoulder pain I set up a time to see her. She met me for free and not on the regularly scheduled night. She "wanded" my shoulder and I decided to put aside any positive and negative thoughts I had about the wand, the meeting and the science. The next evening I was removing my sweater when I noticed that I had not had pain in my shoulder once that day. It usually radiates pain down my arm into my fingertips. I found that interesting. A couple days later I noticed some pain, but as I sit here typing, the area she wanded is still about 60% better than before. When I went to test the wand I brought my mother with me to be my skeptic, I knew she would keep me grounded. When we left she was still not convinced, BUT...I received a phone call from her the day after I realized I had not had any pain in my shoulder and she asked me to send her friend the lady's (with the wand) contact info so she could get some relief from her chronic back pain. I found that interesting... And funny, the night before we went I was on the phone with my mom asking her to go with me and she did some research herself. She found BillyMarkham's post and gladly read it to me over the phone, giggling and saying that his post was well written. She believed every single word of his post. But, 3 days later she believed me and she believed me enough to go out on a limb and tell a friend. I too am attracted to MLM, but for the people and team aspect. I have not decided if I want to pursue this or not. I do like how this idea/wand has inspired people to reach out or pay it forward as you said. This lady demonstrated the wand for free, for her own curiosity and research. She has not attempted to sell me anything and did not ask for anything in return. I can see how I would reach out to others just to help them and show them how cool it really is. Maybe the zero point energy can heal more than our bodies.
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#36 · Posted: 30 Mar 2010 13:55
maxsmart64
To validate your claim, please agree to sell me your authentic Amega wand, I will pay you exactly the amount your paid for it as the backlog in inventory caused by customs hold up has created more demand than supply.
Does it work immediately for everyone, no, nothing works for everyone on every pain or illness, but for it to work on even one, it is up to the individual to determine what is working and what is not. Sorry to hear about your pain, but do you know where the pain is originating from, it may surprise you that when you research your bodies merdian points, the point of pain is not always where your pain is coming from.
Wealth Without Health is Worthless,
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#37 · Posted: 30 Mar 2010 14:00
shanna2777
Thanks Shanna,
Nice story, and it demonstrates that most are not out hawking this Health-Wand as some would like us to believe. I am glad you and your Mother did a search online for more facts, I know I did, and what amazed me is to find only one person posting all over the place under different names blasting Amega and those of us who have been fortunate enough to get relief.
I don't sell it, just as the lady who treated you is not selling it, didn't even call you, and that is exactly my mode of operation, try it before you buy it, there is too much yet to be understood about our immune systems and the health of our cells, so who is to say what works for them verses what may not, most of us are using the pay it forward approach, or as any old sales professional would call it, the puppy dog approach. lol
Wealth Without Health is Worthless,
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#38 · Posted: 31 Mar 2010 12:54
Good point,
Simple, this is what you risk when you purchase the copycat fake, and now, clearly unsafe and unproven products which are flooding the market from China. If you do your research, and do not fall for the unknown factor of purchasing these cheap knockoffs, then you are safe.
Amega does not sell this type of product, made from unknown lava rock of undeterminded sourse, so you get what you pay for. This is being sold on eBay for a few bucks, so what would you expect when buying no name, no testing, no history cheap knockoffs? Do you want to gamble your health on a fake knockoff of another companies product, not Amega, but a company called Excel, so again, Amega does not sell this type of pendent, not even close.
Wealth Without Health is Worthless,
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#39 · Posted: 5 Apr 2010 13:03
Hey everyone,
We joined the Zero Point Energy Wand business in February also and after 12 years of full time income in network marketing, this is the BEST thing we have ever offered.
We are having 100% results with helping people teach their bodies to heal chronic pain and other ailments.
When you can help relieve pain on a quantum physics level, it is a wonderful thing.
I LOVE my Pendant and wands!
We're doing live demonstrations in North Carolina if anyone is nearby.
Great connecting with you all here.
Many blessings for your prosperity and well being.
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#40 · Posted: 5 Apr 2010 13:08
FREEBUSINESSES Each Amega wand has a unique serial number printed near the top of the wand, the word Amega is printed on the clip on the side of the wand and there is no mistaking it as a knock off.
Hope that helps!
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