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TJamMoneyMan
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#161 · Posted: 31 Dec 2007 18:23 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
Quoting: gracia I just looked through everything & it looks like Marv is doing well with 20 /20 unlimited.
Beats me how you come to that conclusion, if you have indeed 'looked through everything'.
Just don't say I didn't warn you!
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emmjay
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#162 · Posted: 31 Dec 2007 18:34
I have to agree with TJ because if you indeed to look at everything Marv has also disappeared.He has not posted since 12/25/07;but hey you never know maybe he is just away on vacation.
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freebird658
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#163 · Posted: 31 Dec 2007 22:10
Yes I'd advise against joining 2020unlimited or 6 x 6 million, unless you like flushing money down the toilet. I was playing around with my registration page at 2020 and filled it all out as if I was joining and when I hit submit, it just went to a Yahoo hosting page so I guess you couldn't join it if you wanted to, and by the way still not paid for the signup from Dec 17..so I guess the admin took our money. I joined 6 x 6 right after it came out several years ago...never made a sale and the member login url to the back office changed (probably because they kept getting their hosting account shut down for spam because of the free leads) I was never notified of the new login page and found it once by accident..was able to access it for about a month..then it was gone again..and I never have been able to find it since. It keeps changing hosts every few months so I guess that's how they have been able to stay in business all these years. So I'm sure there are a lot of people who has lost access to their memberships and just got tired of trying to keep searching for it.
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freebird658
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#164 · Posted: 31 Dec 2007 22:18
BTW I think Marv has been concentrating on his Super Eden program now.
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AppealMarketing
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#165 · Posted: 1 Jan 2008 02:52
Hello All,
For some reason I have not been getting any emails when new posts are made in this forum thread, so I didn't know anything was happening here, even though I started the thread?? Yes, I would advise staying away from 6x6million (their member's area site has been down for a few weeks, I stopped promoting it quite a while ago myself when i found out it was down) 2020 is still up in the air, I too have received word that one of my personally sponsored had made a sale, no funds that I can see anywhere yet. I have also emailed John a few times in regards to getting safepay put on my payment page (I even re-filled out the form with my safepay info) but haven't heard anything back from John. One thing I do know about John, he is a hard working person (full time job and 2020 - He had started Benpals, but sold it soon after) and he did not make much money with 2020 (think about it for a minute $9.99 x 250 members - business expenses = Not much left over) The only way for John to make some good money (he definitely deserved that for creating a GREAT program with a GREAT pay plan) was to be in it for the long run, then big bad paypal comes along and kicks us all in the gut, especially John, I spoke to him on the phone a little while after that, you could hear the depression in his tone of voice, it was like when you were a kid and your cat/puppy got ran over by a car. Not good at all. So I would expect John to take a while getting over this episode and hopefully get his act back together and communicate with all the members on a regular basis.
Just to stop any other 2020 rumors, just reading a few posts while typing this one, I had done Extremely well with 2020, once again you do the math 139 x $20 = Extremely well paid, but I had previously explained all the reasons why previously to Maricel and will not explain them again, you can look back to see if you are interested.
So I have stopped promoting 2020 until I have safepay in my payment page, no sense posting ads with just e-gold to receive payments.
And finally (sorry for the long post, but trying to get caught up) I have been spending alot of time getting Super Eden up to speed and it has done very well since joining on Dec 8th and was surprised how well it has done thru the Holiday Season, can't wait for things to get back to normal, should be better than 2020, as I can now offer my ad co-op (improved with more choices) to every single person in my downline, not just my personally sponsored people as with 2020. Also setup an url rotator for all my downline which I advertise daily, over 900 hits so far in about a week and a half of operation.
I guess I'll just have to check once daily to see if any new posts are being made, sorry for my noticed absence.
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TJamMoneyMan
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#166 · Posted: 1 Jan 2008 03:51 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
Quoting: freebird658 I was playing around with my registration page at 2020 and filled it all out as if I was joining and when I hit submit, it just went to a Yahoo hosting page
Same thing happened to me Freebird!
Only I was trying to do the re-confirmation, or whatever it's called.
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#167 · Posted: 1 Jan 2008 10:18
Good to see you back Marv as you do offer good advice in your posts.If 6x6 million is dead and you are not promoting it you should remove the link from your appeal-marketing site.I know it is propably just an oversight on your part as busy as you are.Happy New Year to all.
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#168 · Posted: 1 Jan 2008 11:25
Thanks Mike, I had removed it, guess I never ran the upload to get rid of 6x6million from the live site. My site is totally redesigned, if anyone would like to take a look at it and make any comments, good or bad, it would be appreciated. (bottom link in my signature) Also got rid of the income4beginners as the main page focus, as that is currently a dead program too. It's still a work in progress (always will be, but still need to add a few pages and rework most others) but made it live to get rid of the 6x6million link and I4B page.
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#169 · Posted: 9 Nov 2008 15:04
hey!! you said you've used a guaranteed traffic service. what are those that you have utilized? am also looking into using that to promote one of my internet businesses effortlessly.
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#170 · Posted: 10 Nov 2008 00:10
Good LORD! who could POSSIBLY be interested in this fossil??
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#171 · Posted: 17 Oct 2010 11:04
Just a FYI..looks like 2020 Unlimited has revived itself into version 2.0 using alertpay this time. Doesn't look like the non-communicating admin is going to be offering his previous paid members who got burned with 1.0 a free spot..not that any of them would want one anyway..
Should be interesting to see how long this one lasts.
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#172 · Posted: 17 Oct 2010 11:30
Hello freebird658,
I encouraged John to open 2020Unlimited v2.0 and immediately joined when he ran a quiet opening, good thing he did, as the new added affiliate software is causing signup/login issues, hopefully will be fixed sometime Monday.
I have made $340 so far and that is from Thursday night thru Sat. night, the affiliate software started acting up sometime Sat.
Major changes:
1) No 3 step payment process, now you make 1 payment to admin and members receive their money thru Alertpay daily. Much easier to signup with this setup.
2) The site looks much better.
3) Affiliate module has been added to the program, you see all of your downline, hits to your link, sales (personal or level2) and much more.
I will be talking to John about v1.0 members that got in late and didn't have a chance to make back their investment and profit. I gladly paid to rejoin, as I made very good money with v1.0.
I will post the results of this talk with John.
Take care all, and yes, I will be an active part of this tread once again, as 2020Unlimited was and has always been my favorite program!
Regards,
Marv Dorn
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#173 · Posted: 17 Oct 2010 14:56
Why is it that "John" seems to ONLY communicate with you and no one else and therefore YOU have become HIS spokesperson? I was a member of ver1.0 but I didn't receive an invite from him to join ver2.0 like you did and I doubt that anyone else who was a member did either unless they were someone who put a LOT of cash in HIS pocket in 1.0!
Hey, I understand totally how difficult it is to work a full-time job and run an internet business too, but that is NO excuse for not keeping your members in the loop or answering their emails. To many folks, that makes John appear to be a very shady character and just shows that he only cares about those who can make HIM the most money and he could care less about anyone else.
It's great that you and your "group" are experiencing success with this, and you may see him as an honest guy who was just mis-informed and innocently got his business closed down by paypal but as far as some of us are concerned, his actions (or I should say "non-actions") leads us to think otherwise about him.
I wish you well.
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#174 · Posted: 17 Oct 2010 15:51
Hi freebird658,
I am not John's spokesperson, just reporting of what I know, we do have a history and we trust each others opinion.
John is communicating with all members on the issue with the affiliate software, which is preventing logins and signups, hopefully will be fixed on Monday.
I will report on what John's plans are for v1.0 members when I hear something, fair enough?
Regards,
Marv Dorn
PS - How come you never post your name freebird?? Just wondering as it's more personal than calling you freebird.
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#175 · Posted: 17 Oct 2010 17:29
Hi Marv,
PS - How come you never post your name freebird?? Just wondering as it's more personal than calling you freebird.
There's no particular reason, I just figure if someone really wanted to know they would click on my forum username and look at my profile. I believe I have posted it several times in previous discussions. I just don't see the need to always include my name in a forum post as though I was sending out an email and I think most people feel this way too since I don't see very many people who posts their name either so I never thought anything of it.
However a lot of people know me very well as I have been marketing online for 11 years and I happen to be good friends with several owners of some very large and well known online businesses and have been for several years. Through my association with them and many other owners, as well as myself in my own programs I have owned is how and why I base my criticism of the way John operated 2020Unlimited 1.0.
One can only hope for the sake of those who get involved with 2.0 that he has learned something from all this and runs 2.0 like it should be. I personally have no interest in getting involved with it again myself, but if he decides to do something for those 1.0v members that are interested then that would be great. Mission accomplished! 
Thanks,
Penny
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#176 · Posted: 17 Oct 2010 18:20
freebird658: as far as some of us are concerned, his actions (or I should say "non-actions") leads us to think otherwise about him.
Ah yes, non-actions speak louder than words!
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#177 · Posted: 18 Oct 2010 00:47 · Edited by: AppealMarketing
Hey TJAM!
Been a while, hope you have found out the internet marketing secret. Which is a consistent effort on a daily basis, no big secret at all.
Hi Penny,
Nice to put a name to the username.
OK, enough talk about John and v1.0, (except for whatever he decides to do with those members that got in late and made no money) it is time to move onto 2020Unlimited v2.0!!
In 3 days of operation, with 1 1/2 of them with crippled affiliate software, which again, I hope is fixed on Monday, here are my personal & group results:
My personal sales = 7 x $20 = $140
My Groups sales = 14 x $20 = $280
My Sales Total is $420, not bad at all for 3 days and I didn't post a single ad for it today, will hit it hard when the affiliate software is working properly.
I do have one personally sponsored member that has made over $300 himself, most likely more, will know more when the affiliate software is working.
We also have some big name marketers that are already in, I won't mention any names, due to their privacy, but if I mentioned them, you would know who they are. They are 3 or 4 levels down from me, so they do not effect my personal earnings, but that just shows you what some of the top marketers think of this program.
Good night or day to all.
Marv
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#178 · Posted: 18 Oct 2010 11:19
AppealMarketing
I look forward to hearing how it works out for you
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#179 · Posted: 18 Oct 2010 11:42
Hello,
The affiliate software glitch has been fixed! Existing members can now login again and new members will be directed to the signup page now!
I woke up to another $20 in my account, now at $440.
Have a great day to all.
Regards,
Marv
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#180 · Posted: 20 Oct 2010 13:34
Hello,
2020Unlimited v2.0 is moving right along! Now up to $520.
I do have an email solo ad available for those that choose to join my group. (In text and/or html)
Testing solo ad options for an ad co-op, takes a little time, but will have the ad co-op page up fairly soon.
Regards,
Marv
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