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daellis99
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#61 · Posted: 5 May 2009 13:36
Hey guys I have to agree with Julsy, Dena and everyone else. I am getting hits to my links and sometimes I get a signup and many times I don't. The thing is that most people will check out the site before they even sign up. Sometimes they come back at a later time. When they come back they may actually sign up under a different link. The thing is 10K os a great program. Everyone is willing to help everyone whether you join under them or not. For you guys that are getting frustrated and not getting any signups remember that you only get out of it what you put in....
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lilmama0500
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#62 · Posted: 7 May 2009 00:25 · Edited by: lilmama0500
Wow, personal attacks galore, does not seem like teamwork to me! Its funny that I had to post something here to get a response. And for those who say Im "bashing" the program, last I checked, this was an open and honest forum. And "bashing" would be outright calling the program a scam and detailing every last flaw I have found in the program in the two weeks Ive been involved. There are many other things I could have posted on here that would have been straight "bashing" the company, but I did not do that, yet Im being accused of it. and regarding work, clearly I did my due dilligence in this as I got over 200 people to look at the 10 k site in one week, pretty big numbers if I do say so myself, especially for a "newbie" as you put it. Is it my fault that the site did not sell itself to the people I brought to it? Im still amazed at the number of personal attacks acquired from this posting. It seems that if anybody even slightly questions the validity of this company they are attacked and accused of bashing.
denariley: This is definitely NOT get rich quick. We focus on smooth and steady for residual income. No one starts out online successful overnight. People have to see your face every where they look online to begin to trust your business.
I never was looking for a "get rich quick" scheme, but I do expect to see some credit for my efforts. How am I supposed to try and sell myself eg the business if I don't know what to tell people regarding it. Im an honest person and am not capable of lying to get my way. Im more then happy to offer something valid and worthwhile, but am not one to lead people into things that I cannot fully back, or make claims I cannot validate.
nicoleacosta: Hello Wendy...First of all I would like to say that this is a little childish wouldn't you agree? Come on, you have been in 10k for ONE WEEK - and you are saying that this might be heading into "scam territory"?? For being such a newbie to marketing, not knowing how to even post blogs - yet you know enough to say that this is a scam after a week?
Personal attack, and completely unnecessary. Not very teamwork oriented, now is it? Not a very good way to keep good people on ones team or in ones program for that matter.
nicoleacosta: Please, if you don't want to be in 10k, if it is not what you had thought just cancel...but don't bash other people, that's just not right.
Whether or not I leave, I still feel that it is only FAIR to let others know what they are getting into with certain programs. Its up to them to weigh the pros and cons. And whether
or not I decide to LEAVE the program, Im sure Ill be 86'd out of the skype conversations just because I dared to question some things about the business. Solid businesses have nothing to hide and no reason to get MAD if people, new to the business, question what goes on in the business. Solid businesses not only stand in the face of criticism, but generally manage to change the mind of those who are criticizing things. Personal attacks are not very effective ways to change a persons mind or point out the answers to the questions the criticizers pose.
nicoleacosta: Hello Wendy...First of all I would like to say that this is a little childish wouldn't you agree
I don't see as how asking questions is childish. furthermore, my questions were not being answered on Skype (which was blamed on my skype account, of course, even though my account is functioning just fine) so I brought them here, which, last I checked, was what this forum is about, is this not correct? I do not see how using this forum to get some questions answered was or is childish, now personal attacks, those are childish.
roland: Any referrals I did get were from my sponsor Nicole. But I'm not going to bash the program because it's my own fault that I didn't get anyone personally
My methods brought nearly 200 people to the 10 k main site in under a week, so is it my fault the site didn't sell itself? and where exactly did I "BASH the program? I could've if I had wanted too, but there is MUCH I left unsaid, and still will because Im not the bashing type just as Im not the dishonest type that is able to make claims I cant back up with proof. True, 10 K DID have online support whenever I asked a question UNTIL I started questioning the program, then all of a sudden, no one replied to my messages, I believe one or two LESS friendly posts then mine in this actual thread mentioned the same exact issue, put two and two together and one cant help but to question the validity of this program. Then add personal attacks to the mix, this raises even more questions.
2x2Prosperity: Do your due diligence before you formulate an opinion
Excuse me, but I do not believe that I ever"formulated an opinion" as you so eloquently put it. Instead
I was asking a question as to the validity of the business in the face of so many questions. And again, as I have mentioned several times above, I did some due dilligence in that I brought nearly 200 people to the site in less then 1 week. Maybe thats not a "big deal" to veteran network marketers, but it is pretty darn good for someone who is completely new to network marketing!
In closing I would like to nsay that what I liked most ab out this program was that it appeared to be honest, open and TEAM oriented, something I have not seen in many companies I have checked into. I would, possibly like to stay involved, at least for na short while longer to see if it EVER does pay off, but only if my questions are answered and I am not personally attcked for my questions. Also, only if this business can be sold to others honestly. Im not going to claim 100,200 or 1000 dollar payout possibilities until I see these things myself. If this is not possible, then Im not interested. Good luck to all in finding a legitimate home business that can really help you out in these tough times! If anyone has any inside info about some LEGITIMATE and profitable home businesses, please clue me in. Thanks
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jaesun16
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#63 · Posted: 7 May 2009 11:37
Hi, this is a business I am going to join today~
I wonder who should I join under?
Who wants to be my upline here~?
I am really considering this very seriously.
I am hard worker, anyone who work hard, can lead me to success,
I will sign up under he/her name!!
Happy day~^^
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Julsy
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#64 · Posted: 7 May 2009 16:20
Wendy, I in no way bashed you and have told you from the very beginning that I am 100% honest and in no way want you to fabricate anything to anyone. I also have talked to you and tried to get you to understand that 200 hits is very commendable and you should be proud to have 200 hits just after starting out, but the expectation with those 200 hits are not that great with any business. It also depends on where those 200 hits came from. In other words, if you just did a traffic exchange, for the 200 hits, it could be 10,000 hits and still nobody join. Most programs on the net for free advertising give you credit for clicking your link, most do not even look at it, they just get the credit for clickng on it. Does this make sense? The only way 200 hits would get you at least a few sign-ups is if you had been personally contacted by those same 200 people asking you details about your business and they were very interested before actually clicking on it. I hope I have helped you to understand this a little better.
I feel that I have personally done for you as I do for all my team members as far as answering anything I can for you. I even divulged all my personal information to you when asked about how long I had been in and how many people I have and how much I was making and like I told you then, it ain't alot, YET!
I have not heard from you in over a week. I have contacted you on skype so many times and it still shows that you are not getting my messages. I have also e-mailed you. I can also promise you that NOBODY blocked you from the skype group, you are still showing as part of the group. And I don't know how you can say that nobody would answer your questions when you were in there because I can look back and show you the entire conversation where everyone was bending over backward to answer your questions. After that day, it shows you have not been back on??? So, I don't know what to tell you, but it is not on our end of skype, we are all still there everyday and you show as not being on??? Can you see the messages I have left you the last week and a half? It shows me you aren't on to recieve them? Again, NOBODY is ignoring you or blocking you, we don't work that way.
The one post on here that you mentioned about having the same issue months ago, he went in the 10K chat group and BASHED 10K, calling the admin all kinds of bad names and cussing etc... anyone will get banned for doing that. He also got mad after trying a few weeks, when he didn't get anyone under him and quit and wanted to talk crap about 10K.
I am glad you want to keep trying because I am still trying for you. You are on my team and the spot you joined me with, I already have my immediate 3, so you will be getting my spill-overs eventually, but I cannot promise you when.
I told you before and I will tell you again, I have been in the business since the end of Jan and I have 27 people under me in four different spots in the system. It is a slow moving train, but the wonderful thing is that when that train begins to rolling, those 27 will multiply and triple. If you are in it for a month or even a few months and want to quit because you don't see results, it may not be the right business for you. It does take a long time to build, but when it does and that time comes... Me and my team will be on top!
Wendy, again, please contact me and I will answer anything for you as I have already done, I just don't know how to reach you, I have tried many times via e-mail an skype!
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#65 · Posted: 7 May 2009 19:11
Wendy, I just looked and my messages to you on skype all still have the little swirly thing by them back from April 24th, which means that you haven't gotten them. So, I am wondering if you somehow placed yourself invisible or offline??? Because as I have stated before, nobody has blocked you and if you have been on, skype is not showing that you have. So, I thought maybe you might check and see and make sure you are not in an offline status on skype. That just maybe the answer???
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#66 · Posted: 7 May 2009 23:09
Even though you are not a part of my direct team Wendy, I have since the first day I met you in the chat room offered you my help. That is just how I am, how we are in 10k...we like to help one another succeed!! I did not like what you put here, and if you read it again, maybe you can see why I said what I did. Too many people get involved into programs and run away yelling "scam". I think we do need to look out for each other, there are a lot of scams out there, but once again I just don't think you should have wrote that only being in it (10k) for the small amount of time you were. I really do hope you stick around, my doors are always open to help those who want it. I am a stay at home Mother as well, I love being able to help others in my position make some extra money from home. It is work, but it is a lot easier having a great team, a wonderful program, and awesome owners all there together to help each other out!! And THAT'S WHAT YOU GET WITH 10K.....
And to jaesun16 anyone of us would be very happy to have you as a part of our team. Just having you as part of the 10k team is the most important part of all, I am sure Julsy and the rest would agree!
If anyone has any questions about 10k, or would like to see my payment proofs just ask me!!!! I have many of them, and they keep coming every Monday. Teamwork is the best, you don't have to do it alone! My skype is nicoleacosta1
Wishing you all the best of life, love, success and happiness!!! 
I love my 10k Family!!
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#67 · Posted: 8 May 2009 20:32
Hi, I am member of 10k matrix for 2 days now.
I got 84 hit to my site in 1 day.
But, no commission yet,...
I hope I will have first downline sooner or later
Good luck to your business
happy day~^^
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#68 · Posted: 8 May 2009 23:49
Jaesun, It is so great to have you a part of the 10K Family!!! I am looking forward to talking with you live very soon! You will find that everyone are all eager to help in anyway that we can, and Fantastic Job getting 84 hits your first day! What a great start! Keep up the good work! And again, Welcome to the family!
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#69 · Posted: 9 May 2009 16:32
GREAT NEWS!!!!
I wanted to let everyone know that 10K has been reinstated by Paypal. What this means is that Paypal (as they have done with loads of other internet businesses) froze our acct with them. Our founder's made an appeal to Paypal proving that 10K Online Services is a very legitimate business proving product licensing and tax ID# and such and Paypal has reinstated us! That is fantastic! We are one of the only businesses ever to be reinstated by Paypal by proving that we are ligitimate and will be around for a long, long time!
I am so happy to be a part of a business with founder's that care so much about it and the people in it! Anthony one of the owner's, tells me all the time that they truly want to make all our dreams come true and they are doing everything in their power to make sure that happens for us all!
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daellis99
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#70 · Posted: 9 May 2009 17:32
Hey Jaesun and welcome 10k.
One thing that I want to tell you guys is that the "hits" that you get can sometimes be misleading. They can come from anywhere. People will just click on your link just out of curiosity whether you are placing ads, posting in forums, or whatever. Sometimes they will visit your site may times before they join. It is better to market yourself as an honest, trustworthy person rather than just marketing your link. If you establish yourself as a person then eventually you won't have problems getting people to join you. You are not going to get very far going out to these sites just to promote your affiliate link. Everyone does that and that is why most people fail because they do not etablish themselves.
Hope that makes sense!
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#71 · Posted: 9 May 2009 17:36
Being accepted by paypal is a very big deal. You guys just don't know. Almost every other company like 10k has had their account frozen by paypal and have not been able to re establish it. For some potential customers not having paypal is a big turn off.
Just my 2 cents....
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#72 · Posted: 15 May 2009 23:45
Maybe I jumped to conclusions too quickly with 10-K. They have, in fact , held up their end of the deal so far. There IS in fact 24 hr live help for those who join. You get to talk to REAL members who can help you work at success in this business. Any time I had a question, it was answered, often times by Ahmet himself, who is the business founder. Many members gave me tips and insights on ways to increase my liklihood of success. On top of that, who can beat FREE web hosting every month with your 10.00 membership fee?
I have decided to stick with 10-K a bit longer and hope to see success for myself, and everyone else always! Good Luck and Happy Hunting!
Wendy
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daellis99
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#73 · Posted: 16 May 2009 03:50
Way to go wendy and good luck with your business!
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#74 · Posted: 16 May 2009 04:32
Keep working hard~
It's hard to work consistently.. but, you will be smiling at the end!
And good luck to you~~
Happy day~^^
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#75 · Posted: 16 May 2009 13:34
You guys have the right attitude!!!! That is all that matters here! I love all you guys!!! You all ROCK! We will make it big together one day and all our work will pay off! When things start to snowball is when it will get easier and you will see the numbers get bigger and bigger. I know it is hard to wait, but what will quitting get you?
Wendy, I am so proud of you girlfriend!
And again, I can't say enough, how much I love my 10K family!!!
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#76 · Posted: 29 May 2009 01:08
Continued at:
http://www.work-at-home-forum.com/14_13851_0.html
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