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#21 · Posted: 25 Jun 2008 11:59


NO business in America cost nothing to get started[u][/u]
Actually you have just expounded a double negative. If No business in America cost nothing to start that means that they all cost nothing to start. Apart from that when you go 'into' mlm you are not starting a business, you are joining a business that is already in operation (regardles of what they would have you believe) if you think that you 'are in buisness for yourself then see what happens when they go belly up, where will 'your business' be? regards nemo.

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#22 · Posted: 25 Jun 2008 17:13


The saying "You get what you pay for" has some value here. If I owned an MLM I wouldn't want people to join if they were unwilling to invest something into the company to get started.

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#23 · Posted: 25 Jun 2008 17:52


Good question,

Yes, there are a few and this is what I research on a daily basis, I don't like pay to play deals either.

I look for no cost full support systems knowing most people don't have enough to start a business, and if they did, they would not be looking for MLM programs. I would rather see people use the money saved to promote and advertise than go to company for marketing kits, web sites, back office, support or training. Free is rarely free, but Warranties-For-Less and Revelle-Stop-Smoking are, and they are very profitable, so check them out for yourself.

Good luck, Mike

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#24 · Posted: 26 Jun 2008 00:35


Cognigen/Commission River does not have any start-up fees or monthly maintenance fees, but you'll have to work HARD to generate any decent income from it and think OUTSIDE of the box -- offline, person-to-commercial contact marketing -- and choose a specific product line(s), rather than promoting opp as a whole.

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#25 · Posted: 26 Jun 2008 06:39 · Edited by: Meshmore


You always have to part with some money to join networking programs.

That's how other members(your sponsor) make money.

Lately there are some networking companies where you just pay one-time fee.

So rather than expecting to join for free, maybe you should search for Network Marketing Opportunities where you pay once and become a member for life.

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#26 · Posted: 29 Jun 2008 02:48


Hi all,

Haven't been here in a long time, but ended up this way via a link from somewhere else. I couldn't help but to stop in on this one.

I've been with MPM and I just wanted to offer caution to drobert60 about MPM (My Power Mall). True, its free.... at first.

Lots of places offer cash back for shopping at their store. When you shop on your MPM mall, the rebates go through MPM and they take a good cut, then pass the tiny bit rest on to you. You also get a tad of money for people signed up under you when they shop. So far, so good.... till you wanna get paid.

They have this thing called a debit card and its had problems since day one. Fees anybody?? Fees to get paid, fees for withdrawing, fees for transfer to bank... ugh. Also, don't forget that you HAVE to shop every single month, or you will get the boot. And all those people in your downline that you spent forever gathering... bye, bye..... they go to the good ol' MPM co., even if you return.

If you check other sites such as "I've tried that" you will see countless testimonies of people not ever receiving payments, not getting refunds, promises made that got pulled out,.... the complaints are endless, and a LOT of people are VERY upset.

A great majority of us switched over to BigCrumbs. They have been around longer than MPM. They get money from each biz for advertising to 'us' the buyers, and pass on 100% of rebates to us. Free to join and no debit card to get paid. We get paid through Paypal at a fraction of the charges MPM takes out. Everyone always gets paid on time. The rebates are WAY better than MPM. The staff keeps in touch with members all the time. Building a downline is way easier too, as many people are attracted to BC.

Not something anyone gets rich with by any means, but it can bring in some very nice side money while you're trying to find that idea network marketing biz.... not to mention some great deals. Feel free to come on over and give a look for comparison.

Hope everything works out for you! Be careful.

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#27 · Posted: 29 Jun 2008 12:35


Let me tell you something you may not have thought of before:

Most people do Network Marketing every day, they just don't get paid for it. In other words, most people recommend and promote things they like to others, they just don't pick up the check.

When you tell someone about that movie or CD you like and they go buy it, you worked for free. You did word-of-mouth advertising for the movie theatre and the CD store.

Imagine the theatre and CD store owners sending you a check in the mail for every referral you got. Wouldn't that make you want to work a little harder?

If all it cost you was $29 to join the theatre or CD Store referral program, you likely would find the money somewhere.

Maybe instead of buying another CD this month or going to the theatre once this month instead of three times, you'd save the money to pay for the referral program start-up fee.

Can you cut back on your spending habits somehow? Why not get rid of cable TV and wait until after you're in profit with your network marketing company to turn it back on? Or why not give up beer for three months? Or cigarettes or going out to the bar or . . . ?

I'm sure you can think up something.

$29 and no monthly fees. Free websites and a mouth are all you need to get started doing what you already do, only now you'd be collecting a bonus check every month!

How about it?



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#28 · Posted: 12 Sep 2008 19:16


Well. There never used to be any. Fortunately, that has changed and I know a program that allows you to generate free money first, then it will teach you how to leverage this free money to build passive/residual income.

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#29 · Posted: 23 Sep 2008 19:49


BillChechel:
If its MLM and totally free, where do the commissions come from?

No MLM type business could be totally free. Somewhere there has to be a commission paid in order for upline to be paid. If not, then it isnt MLM, correct?


Bill, could you possibly be confusing commission payments on sales of products and payments for sponsoring people (which aren't legal)?

In legal MLM companies, nobody earns anything on recruitment of new distributors. If and only if their start-up kit includes products (some do, some don't), then upline distributors can earn commissions on the sale of those products, just like they can on the sale of any products.

But there are no commissions paid on start-up cost per se, not at all. Only on product sales, whether to retail customers or to distributors, including new ones.

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#30 · Posted: 24 Sep 2008 20:11


RayvinAndRob:
most people recommend and promote things they like to others, they just don't pick up the check.

When you tell someone about that movie or CD you like and they go buy it, you worked for free.


"Worked"? People working in MLM often seem to adduce this argument, but IMHO it's a fallacious one. The whole point is that you're not getting paid, and the person you're talking to knows that you're not getting paid. So when you recommend a move or CD or restaurant, you're not actually "working" as you claim, I think.

In MLM, you're in a qualitatively very different situation in which the people you talk to and give your "recommendation" to are fully aware not only that you're financially incentivized, but that the conversation has arisen (invariably at your instigation rather than theirs) because you're financially incentivized.

This is, in fact, the very reason why so many network marketers are understandably unwilling to use their co-called "warm market" (who are usually anything but "warm" in reality), because the glaringly obvious financial incentive makes it uncomfortable and embarrassing for them in a way in which recommending a movie or a CD or a restaurant isn't.

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#31 · Posted: 29 Sep 2008 05:41


I have to say that there is no such thing as a free MLM system. I operate a website that gives you a free domain name and a free wesbite and a MLM platform to earn commission from your down line. But unless you invest in advertising or time for networking (time is money) you will never make a penny. What we should really be asking is are there any free advertising oppertunities out there....I would sure like to know

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#32 · Posted: 7 Oct 2008 11:59


Have you ever heard of "you get what you pay for"? Some MLM's may be free from the get go but there is always more to invest or minimum amount of product to purchase. One I am involved with has an up front fee as they have a ready made web site and need to have the hosting paid for, plus they have everything run through their merchant account. Trust me, merchant account fees are riduculus unless you make enough up front to pay them.

When I had my own photography company I had the credit card terminal and merchant account to run all cards. They take a percentage (the amount depending on your status, credit and amount of money run through them plus a monthly statement fee).

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#33 · Posted: 13 Oct 2008 11:31


The monthly investment into a MLM is how you get paid. If there was zero overhead then where would your paycheck come from???

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#34 · Posted: 13 Oct 2008 13:27


The monthly investment into a MLM is how you get paid? Where did you come up with that? Multi Level Marketing is marketing on multiple levels. When there is a product on the market that the MLM is involved in the company pays you a percentage of sales. Wholesale, retail, commissions all are the same. With MLM's the upline is paid also as you would not be getting paid unless they introduced you to the business. Franchises are the same way. The MLM I am involved with pays your commissions, or paycheck if you will, for services of something everyone uses, cellphones. Our investment covers the monthly website maintenance of your website.

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#35 · Posted: 13 Oct 2008 20:38 · Edited by: alexa


rkennedy:
Multi Level Marketing is marketing on multiple levels.


Not quite, no. We'll call that a "near miss", shall we? The marketing doesn't have to be on multiple levels at all (not quite sure what that would look like!). MLM refers - in law and in reality - to the division of commission payments between multiple levels; that's all.

znapua:
The monthly investment into a MLM is how you get paid. If there was zero overhead then where would your paycheck come from???


From the sales of the company's products by yourself and members of your downline, I hope, because anything else wouldn't be legal!

rkennedy:
The MLM I am involved with pays your commissions, or paycheck if you will, for services of something everyone uses, cellphones. Our investment covers the monthly website maintenance of your website


I think you'll find that they're not actually paying any commissions on the component of the monthly payment that represents website maintenance. Not if they've ever had any legal advice, anyway, because that part's non-commissionable!

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#36 · Posted: 13 Oct 2008 20:44


Alexa, okay I will give you that one as I may have just chosen the wrong statement. It is not multiple types of marketing on multi levels. Yes your bolded statement is right on.

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#37 · Posted: 13 Oct 2008 20:46


My statement of the monthly fee is for maintenance and use of the back-end, servers and merchant accounts. The commission comes from the product usage.

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#38 · Posted: 31 Oct 2008 22:24


If you haven't heard of zero2riches yet, let me be the first to tell you about it. There's absolutely no cost to start. You actually get paid from me for about 30 minutes of work, and then you earn $40 from everyone else who works with you. And that's just the beginning!

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#39 · Posted: 6 Nov 2008 19:21


Best bet is to find a reputable comapny with geat products or services like I did

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#40 · Posted: 7 Nov 2008 04:31


I just signed up for my very first MLM and while there were a number of factors in my consideration, I was impressed that there were NO investment charges. Yes there is a monthly fee that is quite reasonable to access all the online resources but it is the same for individual members and marketers. Actually, I lied, there is a one time $20 charge to be a marketer and not just a member.

I had to ask myself, is this a "product" that I want to use myself and think it is of value. My answer was yes - so the extra marketing fee was a no-brainer. If the later is successful for me, it will only occur if I work at it. No matter what, this marketing model, like any small business, takes work.

This is still in pre-launch which is the key factor for joining (IMHO).

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