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CJConsulting Forums Member
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#21 · Posted: 24 Jan 2012 12:57
After a couple of years being in business for myself, I have found that if I don't offer actual value to people, I can completely FORGET enrolling new customers or business builders. And that is the bottom line in business today. If people don't see a clear reason why you are a little different from and better than others, you can basically forget being able to build a long-term, sustainable business.
When I first started working from home, I was really gung ho to find as many customers as I could. I was passionate, loud, and crazy. It took forever (seemingly) to understand that the average person does indeed want to make money from home. But they also want to be able to work with a clear leader who will help them get to where they want to be from day one.
Until we figured out a process that worked and stuck with it, we were completely unsuccessful in home business. We would run from so-called guru to so-called guru, trying to figure out what they were doing until one day it just hit that leaders are leading with value. They are solving problems. They are in business for the long haul. They may have challenging times, but they never, ever give up. For us, home business has been do or die. (not really, but I think you get my point. The point is that there is no Plan B.) When you reach the point that working for yourself IS going to work and there is nothing else that will do for you long-term, you will start to reinvent yourself. You will start to solve problems for others and help them and go out of your way to be a benefit to our industry instead of just wanting to figure out a way to make money from the business...and THAT is when the money starts to come in....when you truly provide solutions for others and help them from the right place.
I am sure that you read this kind of stuff all the time, but because it took me about two years to figure it out, I have to write this way.
Keep at it! You WILL get there if you don't give up. Mike Dillard talks about it and says that the average business owner takes a year to become average, two years to become good, and three to become GREAT! He absolutely told the truth. If you don't give up, I promise you will get there. If I did it with all the cards stacked against me like they were, ANYONE can! lol
Best to you in business!!
Sincerely, Christi Johnson
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jbrownmarketing Forums Member
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#22 · Posted: 22 Feb 2012 11:53
You need to come up with a marketing plan than will be effective. Internet marketing is hot right now. There are techniques that you can use such as content marketing and social networking that work and are cheap. There are many things you do to be successful in building your downline.
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hockeyadc Forums Member
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#23 · Posted: 27 Mar 2012 09:12
Whats the best website to create a capture page with?
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closerjim Forums Member
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#24 · Posted: 1 Apr 2012 01:10
The topic of "how can I get more people in my downline" ....
The first place to start is to define the PROCESS you plan to use to GET people, which sounds like "isn't that what the topic is asking???"
But really, it isn't that complicated if you start with a few good ideas of what your business is all about.
Start with ... WHY do people join your company in the first place?
Is it because of the product? The amazing pay plan? You?
There is an entire "study" on which is best to "lead with" that we can get into in a few posts from now, but let's say it's your product.
Ok ... then HOW do people learn about your product? From YOU? The website? Flyers? Email?
Once they've learned about it, how do they get to BUY IT?
These are things that are elements of your PROCESS TO SIGNING PEOPLE UP.
It is going to be YOUR process. One YOU create, based on your own preferences.
So, maybe you like the idea of using email.
Ok ... whatever it is, you need to then realize, whatever it is you use to REACH OUT ... is the START of your process.
Whatever THAT IS ... is where you want to pour 90% .. as in NINETY PERCENT of your effort, time, energy .... because the FORMULA for success is....
TRAFFIC FIRST ... into your PROCESS NEXT ... = SIGN UPS.
No "traffic" ... no sign ups.
Driving people to that "trigger event" that starts your process, which may be like ...
1. Send EMAIL
2. See SITE
3. Curious about PRODUCT
4. Request INFO
5. Connect by PHONE
6. Order Product
7. SIGN UP!
Where does it all start for YOU in that process?
SENDING EMAIL.
That (in this example) became your process and THAT is the start.
So, 90% of your time would be spent FINDING LISTS to send to!
You can expand on your process.
#1 may be...
1. Send EMAIL - AND distribute Sizzle Cards (cards with catchy pic and headline with a phone # or website on it) - AND work FORUMS!
In that case ... you would divide your time between those activities and SCHEDULE THE TIME to do ALL of them during a week.
Does this sound like .... "work" to you?
Coming from someone who has earned high 5 figures monthly and my close friends in the MLM industry earn mid 5 to high 6 figures monthly ... you won't make it in those levels without work.
But come on ... which is easier? 8 hour days tending a hot pizza oven or standing in the rain (or 100 degree heat) holding a sign that says "Slow" on one side and "Stop" on the other .... or doing what it takes to build a great MLM business?
What could be easier???
OH ... I know. Having someone ELSE to the calling, following up, coaching, training and signing them up for you.
Yup... that is a deal that works too.
Have a magnificent week ... hope this has helped.
FINAL THING.... to jockeyadc ... the best website to create a page that captures info?
One you get the info off of when they do fill in the form AND ... that you can and DO send .... TRAFFIC to.
See ya!
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#25 · Posted: 1 Apr 2012 11:27 · Edited by: ricksalas
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closerjim Forums Member
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#26 · Posted: 1 Apr 2012 11:47
Very good post Rick,
So ... as you can see hockeyadc, the issue of "what's the best site..." question isn't as simple, cut and dried or straight forward as it looks.
I'm very glad Rick jumped in with what is REALLY involved to do the job right. So many people who just found a site that says, "Plug in with us and you'll be automatically rolling in dough!" and buy that story (call is B.S.) are simply feeding the mouth of one of the internet sharks out there.
It takes (I think I mentioned it above) .. WORK to do it right.
Now, to what is very important in Rick's post.
You notice he mentioned a few things that have to be done to make ...yes ... SALES.
One of course is the site. Another is "consultive sales". Another is research. Another is "attract your target market" and Pre selling.
Where do you start?
My guess (I may be wrong) is most reading these posts don't have the BUDGET it can take to launch a full-on campaign from scratch.
But if you're working with a half way decent MLM company (which is what this specific forum topic is all about .. building downline) then they SHOULD already have some "squeeze" (lead capture) pages done up for you.
Are the necessarily going to be seo optimized and perfect and fit the model that a true web marketing guru type is going to say "it just doesn't get any better than that!"??? No.
But will it WORK for a place to start ... that comes built in to what you are already PAYING to be part of that company.
Because as Rick mentioned ... the page is only part of the deal.
A website with no EYE BALLS on it is no better than a bill board sign on an empty highway with the only sound being the crickets.
TRAFFIC ... will be king.
Yes, traffic can come from being ranked on the first page of google.
Again however, there is more to that story. What it takes to be ranked on the first page is only part of it.
Who ELSE is there? Are you organically listed or pay for click? Do you have a google budget set up? All that stuff has to be worked with and paid for.
Is that the only way to get traffic? Not at all.
And what about that whole "consultive selling" thing? And pre- selling and ....?
What if there was help to do all of that ... including finding an MLM company that really fit you and potential members for you? And trained, coached, did that consultive selling, prescreened companies so you know you're in a solid opporuntity with no "gotcha's" in 'em.
Today, the path is still travelable to success. But there's a lot more to it than the old days.
And there are people lined up all along the way to take your money for this, that, the other thing (think ... who got the most rich during the Gold Rush Days? The MINERS or the people selling the wagons, picks, shovels, lanterns, blankets, supplies......?)
Today is the day to get a lot smarter about it if you plan to really make it a successful venture.
Success is at hand!
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#27 · Posted: 1 Apr 2012 12:39
hockeyadc: Whats the best website to create a capture page with? Hey hockeyadc, Oh, remember also Why do some people make it look so easy to have success in the network marketing industry when others struggle spending tons of cash to get nowhere? Being effective is so much more gratifying than being efficient. The lesser activities, no matter how well they're performed will never give the kind of results as the core ones. Taking the overall objective into consideration you must find out which activities are the most important for reaching your unique goal. Message me for a free consultation. I communicate only with my target market... : )
Rick
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closerjim Forums Member
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#28 · Posted: 1 Apr 2012 13:27
Again Rick, you have hit it dead on the money.
Aside from the sites that claim you can have the world at your finger tips in hours or days of jumping on board their secret and poweful marketing sites, the MLM industry is just as guilty.
I'll stay focused only on the MLM part, as that's what we do.
The biggest issue with MLM, is all the "systems" and training and methods they teach to be successful, either rely on trying to turn someone into an internet marketing guru ... because MOST people do NOT want to be a "sales person", thus tell people they don't have to be if you can get enough people to come to your site and just burst into spontaneous signing up ... OR ...
They focus on teaching you how to immerse yourself in sales activity that involves selling, telling, explaining, following up, the 3 foot rule (talk to anyone within 3 feet of you) and all that goes with it.
There is a better way.
I'd suggest ... do contact Rick for that consultation.
Then, contact me.
Between the two of us, you're likely to learn what you need to go forward from here and have it exactly go the way you want.
Have a super sunday!
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#29 · Posted: 1 Apr 2012 14:28
jbrownmarketing: You need to come up with a marketing plan than will be effective. Internet marketing is hot right now. There are techniques that you can use such as content marketing and social networking that work and are cheap. There are many things you do to be successful in building your downline. There sure is ibrownmarketing, the free methods can get some pretty good organic traffic. Got to go through all the roadblocks though. I'm still getting them ...it's just business as usual though. Can't get too high or too low in this industry. Gotta keep moving forward with the least amount of distractions as you can and keep your mind on marketing.
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#30 · Posted: 1 Apr 2012 14:57 · Edited by: closerjim
Here's another approach ...
One that works for the individual and can produce results FAST.
As you can read from the posts ... internet marketing is "hot" .. but also carries with it a lot of work, specialized knowledge, google slaps, tricks to make pages get hot but not too hot ... and if you are of the type that you like that sort of thing, build in the time in your daily or weekly schedule to undertake a plan of attack on it.
THEN ... decide what ELSE you plan to do that also fits YOU.
We cover it all when we talk with people. It really is all about the individual and your lifestyle.
Can you throw MONEY at it? There's all kinds of things that work when you can do that. Here's an interesting fact most people don't realize.
Of all the traffic on the internet today, what do you suppose is the percentage attributed to Google?
FACT ... less than 7%. Spending a ton of time and resources on making Google happy with you may not be your best approach.
Where ELSE does internet traffic come from then, if Google is only 7% or less of all the traffic on the web?
Word of mouth, email links, bill boards with URL's on them, TV with websites, radio with websites, business cards with websites, coffee cups with websites, forums, blogs, all with links ... see?
Then there is your LIFE STYLE itself. Where do you go? Who do you see every day, week, once a month?
And once you see them, get the form fill, receive a request for more information .. what do you say? How do you handle it?
What about someone who will teach you exactly what to do .. then do MOST of it for you?
There is a cost to everything.
One of those costs is TOO EXPENSIVE to pay for success. Know what it is?
The cost of "doing it yourself" so you "learn from experience."
That is a price no one has to pay any more.
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#31 · Posted: 3 Apr 2012 14:02
hockeyadc: Whats the best website to create a capture page with? Oh, Almost forgot. We use Premise Landing Pages. Recommended by the top in the industry. You can get it free along with Pop Up Domination and all the rest for less than a cup of coffee a day. I don't go and try to lesson other capture pages to think just about myself. It's just what we use. Good luck! I've been pissing a lot of my competitors off lately with all we have to give the industry so don't be surprised if you get some hate on this post. You really have to watch out who you do business with. There are a lot of freaks out there who only think about themselves.
Rick Salas <Snip>
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closerjim Forums Member
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#32 · Posted: 3 Apr 2012 16:42
Well ....
I'm not too clear on why hockeyadc would be getting "hate mail" from your post, Rick.
Facts are, there's a lot of services out there that provide very good landing pages, autoresponders, tips, tricks, training on how to go about learning and implementing internet marketing.
For a lot of people, the first place they should be looking, is with the very company they are working with as their primary business.
Most have some sort of page / site that comes with the fees they have to pay anyway, just to belong. Or, they have a choice of a "Free" option for the site or an upgraded version with literally every bell, whistle and back office tool imaginable for $20 to $50 monthly.
THEN .... start building your Process Of Sales & Recruiting.
Starting with how you are most comfortable developing traffic to your process. There's a lot of "stuff" out there that pays lip service to this, using some pretty vague terms about it, but will take your money to "teach" what you need to do. And once there, it's all about getting on Facebook, SEO-izing your site, pay for clicks, etc.
All great stuff! But it won't build your downline.
What will build your downline, unless you can throw a lot more at it than a hobby effort and hobby money so you can generate so much traffic that the "low hanging fruit" (people who will sign up for anything without talking to a human being first) coming on board will build your check.
I have friends that do that. One in his first 11 months (he's still in his first year) signed up 500 personals and has a downline of 9,000 now, with weekly checks that average $20,000 to $35,000.
Wow .. right?
But, here's what it took. Constant ads in the major Biz Opp mags, consistent post card mailings going out at 10,000 per blast, and creating a system that his sign ups can use and co-op with him so they too can be in that flow.
Now ... if all that sounds pretty daunting, it is if you are going it all' by yourself.
Why not hook up with a partner? Just ask.
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