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Singapoor
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#261 · Posted: 11 Feb 2009 05:32
What all is out there though?
Surely the silver and gold members have seen this question before, but I haven't managed to find it in a search. What I found that was close was more "How do you make money online?" which was interesting for getting a gauge of what personal choices there are but it is not quite the same really. Actually, Happywife and just recently touched on some of this stuff, which is great.
happywife: Mountainmom is right. There ARE good programs, but we don't all use the same ones.
And it's funny, because this question was my initial question in beginning my search and coming to this forum and still it is. I'm a complete newbie in all of this. I've only just started sniffing around online in an effort to try and understand what is out there and what is not a scam and I know that I am still merely scratching the surface in all of this.
In the couple of weeks I've spent researching, I've come across a sampling of what's out there. In doing so, I have answered some basic questions I had, but also the process has turned up new questions. I'll just post the core of what I'm wondering here, and start from there. What I get is that there are people who've set up:
1) an affiliate marketing system and earn by endorsing products they know and like.
2) home party plan businesses (i.e. - Avon, Mary Kay, Melaleuca, Shaklee, etc.)
3) a blog and get paid advertising revenue (which seems to be a combination of pay-per-click as well as directly getting cheques from advertisers as is the case with blogs like Dooce)
4) an IFW system (i.e. - filling out surveys and offers, etc.)
3a) I guess GPT and PTC systems could also be grouped here.
5) a home based.... I guess you can call them home based telecommuting position and freelancing routine (i.e. - oDesk, virtual assisting, graphic design, medical transcribing, etc. as well as various agent companies like Alpine Access, West, and Cloud 10, etc.)
6) a product of their own. And in doing so, they make their money through the marketing and sale of this product online (i.e. - ebooks, webinars, crafts, coaching, etc.).
6a) I guess setting up an ebay shop would be a variant of that too, if what's done is buying over
someone else's stuff (or the rights to someone else's stuff) and using ebay like a virtual specialty shop
with niche inventory that you acquire from various sources.
7) research based/analytical (i.e. - being a virtual juror through sites like ejuror, genealogists, answering questions like with just answer, Cha Cha, etc.)
What else is out there? What are other options that I've not come across? In trying to figure out which to give a shot (or which few to give a shot), I thought I'd first try and see what all is out there and which could be fruitful for me with my experience and skill set, and simultaneously get a feel for what's interesting as an endeavor before I invest time into honing/developing specific abilities.
I know that some are better if you have no time while others are best to try if you have loads of time. Some are better if you already have specialized abilities (a podcast for those who speak well, letters for those gifted in writing, home party plan businesses for those great with sales and being social too I guess, etc.). Some only work if you are in the U.S. (since they're 1099 positions or employee contracts).
I have already seen, for example, that spending time with Amazon's Mechanical Turks program wouldn't be time well spent for me, or getting involved with something like GDI/Spiderweb isn't really worth it either (since my impression is that it doesn't really make sense on the consumer side to get a domain through them as everything's limited to .ws, and on the affiliate side because you end up with a generic .ws website that is only useful for marketing .ws websites). Everything I know is purely superficial though, so please don't take offense to any of the initial impressions I've stated here. Anyway, this question is super long and I'm sure against forum etiquette. I will apologize now and promise not to write anymore chapter-long questions after this one  .
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#262 · Posted: 11 Feb 2009 12:14 · Edited by: businessonapage
Singapoor: see what all is out there and which could be fruitful for me with my experience and skill set, and simultaneously get a feel for what's interesting as an endeavor before I invest time into honing/developing specific abilities.
Hello Singapoor,
I can read from your post you have a wonderful skill of researching and understanding concepts quickly.
It seems to me, the next step to make your vision real is to break it down to statements that determine how you will meet the vision.
If you try this, then I suspect the system or systems that suits you best will become more obvious for more experienced online marketers to list for you.
e.g. statement:
- I feel a system is fruitful to me if ...
- My experience that I can bring to online marketing includes ...
- My skill set the I can bring to online marketing is ...
- I feel interested when ...
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#263 · Posted: 12 Feb 2009 19:39
Hi Singapoor,
You've really grasped a LOT in a couple of weeks. I'm truly impressed. It took me a few months to wade through the sludge and get a simple understanding of some of the best options and choose the one that was right for me.
The fact that you have picked up a general knowledge so quickly bodes well for you and your IM future as long as you eventually make a choice and take action.
There probably are other options out there, but I can't think of them off the top of my head. Instead of continuing your search, why not choose from those you already understand a bit about and then get started? No, you don't want to rush into anything, but you also don't want to analyze forever either.
Has any one option really jumped out at you or appealed to you yet? I know when I found what was right for me, I kept thinking, "I can do that!" The more I read and learned about it, the more excited I felt and eager to get started learning and doing.
I look forward to seeing what you end up choosing and how you progress.
Blessings,
Angie
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#264 · Posted: 13 Feb 2009 04:08
I did some research before posting out of a certain fairness/respect for people's time. Well that and understanding that when you ask a question of substance, it's more likely that you'll get an answer of substance. And I've always felt that that you should read the chapter first before asking for homework help (pardon the pun).
businessonapage: I can read from your post you have a wonderful skill of researching and understanding concepts quickly. It seems to me, the next step to make your vision real is to break it down to statements [...]
Thank you Businessonapage and Happywife. I really didn't realize that I was farther along than, well, I thought I was *giggle*.
Okay, I actually came to the same realization yesterday - that since this is already a chunk of data, it's a good enough pool to choose from thus, I might as well narrow things down from there and make a choice.
Happywife - I couldn't afford to finish University but I was on an engineering career track and my thought process has always been systematic and research isn't something I shy away from. Actually, I feel uncomfortable when I don't... an uneasiness that there's maybe more I should know before acting (ergo the post in the first place, now that I think about it). I'll PM you though to answer your question.
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#265 · Posted: 13 Feb 2009 15:48
Singapoor: ...I was on an engineering career track and my thought process has always been systematic...
It shows! Your grasp of the playing field after only "sniffing around" is actually quite remarkable. Either you are using a different unit of measurement than the rest of us, or your IQ is simply off the charts!
You listed an interesting mix of opportunities in your earlier post. They covered a broad spectrum of business models, all of which could be profitable, depending on one's particular skills, preferences and ambitions.
So when you ask...
Singapoor: What else is out there? What are other options that I've not come across?
...my response is:
Basically more of the same, as far as business models go. The only differences would be fancy promotional names and clever marketing twists.
I do agree with Businessonapage's suggestion:
businessonapage: It seems to me, the next step to make your vision real is to break it down to statements that determine how you will meet the vision.
That's good advice.
You should start customizing this gathering experience by identifying the system that aligns best with your passion, personality, experience, skills and ambitions. That would automatically disqualify many options and allow you to zoom in on a short list of options to consider seriously.
This process would help you narrow things down to:
1. the niche
2. the product/service
3. the business model
At that point, your objective would be clear; your research would become laser focused, and you'd be much better positioned to place the next building block.
Hermas
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#266 · Posted: 15 Feb 2009 08:31
A8ch: It shows! Your grasp of the playing field after only "sniffing around" is actually quite remarkable. Either you are using a different unit of measurement than the rest of us, or your IQ is simply off the charts!
*flattered* More likely a different unit of measurement . I am not against working hard, and it weren't for that, I'd have no "data".... so I think what I know is more to do with curiosity combined with an immense amount of time on my hands most days than something innate.
A8ch: Basically more of the same, as far as business models go. The only differences would be fancy promotional names and clever marketing twists.
Hmm... so more of the same eh? In the meantime, I found out that people also use forex in a way that's bigger than I would have previously imagined... feeling like the practice would have simmered waayyy down sometime around the bursting of the dot.com bubble (goes to show what prejudice/writing something off without really knowing much about it will do). Apparently, there's also more room for sponsored blogging that I would have thought as well.
Anyway, I've come up with an action plan and have gotten a PM interaction going with a member whose choices make a lot of sense to me. It feels good being on a path now, since I'm also aware of how dangerous analysis paralysis can be.
Somethings are still foggy, but at least I have a first step that I feel comfortable with - 3 steps actually. And, in the process of taking these steps, I'll figure the rest out. Since even the longest journey begins with a single step, I feel good about at least having a direction that I feel good about heading into.
Wish me luck!!! 
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#267 · Posted: 16 Feb 2009 18:20
Making Money from a Home Business ....
We started working from home back in the 70's (yup the nineteen
hundred and 70's!) before it was even "fashionable" to say you
worked from home.
Now, it's not just "from home" but also "online" that you want to
be earning your money.
Here's a few tips that can help (maybe) that helped us earn over
$1,000,000 in the past 4 years.
1. You need a product with the widest appeal and the most
"durable" against economic fluctuations whether they be caused
by "events" or the "economy" itself. We survived 9-11 as well
as surviving this current recession they are saying we're in.
2. You would want automated system of course.
3. If you could have a sales team that is paid from SALES (not
out of YOUR pocket) that would be good.
4. You have to have a web presence naturally. And if you could
have that without monthly costs, that's even better.
5. Profits. If you can't see where you will earn enough to make
it worth your while on a FEW (not a few HUNDRED) transactions,
you may want to keep looking.
6. Global Reach. Can anyone, anywhere, in any currency buy
your stuff and pay you?
If you have all of those things in your favor, you have a winner.
Have a great week everyone.
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#268 · Posted: 19 Feb 2009 12:16
Hello, let me introduce myself, my name is Suzy and I am a stay at home mom. I have been out of the work force for 13 years and spent the last 6 years getting my college degree. My husband recently got laid off from his job and was able to find another but had to take a very significant cut in pay. We are no different than any other American family going through difficult economic times. I have not been able to find employment that will pay enough to help pay for day care for our youngest. We also have two teenagers, one 13 and the other 14 years old. I have been researching ways to either work from home or find a program to make money online. We are not looking to be millionaires, I am just looking for a quality program where I can bring in anywhere between $2,000 to $3,500 a month. To be honest, I don't have a lot to invest and I would like to see a fast return if possible. Truth is, we only have rent for the next two months, after that, I honestly don't know what to do. I have been researching for about a month now, and never realized how many programs there really are. I know that most of them are scams. I have already been scammed once and lost $97. I would love a program that does not require me to call friends and family to try to sell them anything. I am new to this and from what I have read, affiliate marketing sounds interesting, but is it possible to profit from it quickly? I know a little about traffic and pay per click, but that is it. Any advice would be great.
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#269 · Posted: 22 Feb 2009 08:15
Am just getting started in this forums and still new, but with this earning either online or offline requires some consistency, persistency and determination that will wake you up everyday to do what you are doing, otherwise a mere trial is just a waste of time
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#270 · Posted: 24 Feb 2009 10:17
Here is another good program you can use when it comes to making money from home. Takes a lot bit of work but it is worth it trust me!
Go to this website check it out and good luck.
http://www.angelpin.net/contractors.html
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#271 · Posted: 25 Feb 2009 15:31
I'm just curious if "in general" WAH opportunities are more solid when an investment is required up front, or if the opportunity is presented free. On one hand free offers always upsell somewhere in the backend, but yet offers which require an investment before you get started are almost always classified as scams, its like a paradox lol
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#272 · Posted: 26 Feb 2009 15:16
Thanks for giving the list!
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#273 · Posted: 26 Feb 2009 18:17
Anything is going to require time for it to succeed. If you are dedicated and self motivated but are not very experienced in working with computers or getting around on the web, there are many courses that are inexpensive you can get signed up with and they will walk you through step by step everything you need to know to get your business off the ground. I didn't know anything about anything when I first started out. But now, well we'll just say some things have changed. Hope you find something you like.
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#274 · Posted: 26 Feb 2009 19:24
CouponMom: I'm just curious if "in general" WAH opportunities are more solid when an investment is required up front, or if the opportunity is presented free. On one hand free offers always upsell somewhere in the backend, but yet offers which require an investment before you get started are almost always classified as scams, its like a paradox lol
Hi Coupon Mom,
That's a tough question. There are good and bad programs in both the free and paid varieties.
For instance, the link you are recommending as free - Partner with Paul - has a terrible reputation as being a huge scam. Just because it is saying free doesn't mean it's good.
By the same token, just because it's paid doesn't mean it's good either. There are some very high end (expensive) programs that people fork out good money for that are very poor quality and do not enable the end user to really benefit by building a profitable business. They are designed to just continue to suck people dry financially. Sad but true.
It's important to really look into a program that requires up front payment to determine whether or not it is worth your investment.
You want to find out what other users are saying about it. Are there are a lot of complaints and/or dissatisfied customers? Have they been around for awhile? Can you find people who have used the program for a while and been successful?
You also want to have a general understanding of what you would be getting into. You don't necessarily have to know exactly how to do everything before you start, but you should at least understand what the general plan of action will be.
A big warning sign is when a program is claiming that they will make you tons of money fast. That is so highly unlikely that it is usually a scam 99.9% of the time. Unfortunately, there are enough people willing to suspend common sense and hope that it's true that these shysters make a lot of money promoting their useless materials. Don't allow yourself to be another gullible buyer.
To build an online business will definitely require an investment. It will take a lot of time and at least a little money. The amount varies depending on what type of business you choose.
Some people prefer the "free" methods when getting started, but it's been my observation, that they usually end up making a monetary investment in the long run when they see the benefit of doing so.
I didn't have a lot to invest when I got started, but when I found a program that genuinely made sense and met all the criteria I mentioned earlier, I took that little plunge (it seemed like a big one at the time ) and dove into it. It was well worth the investment.
I completely understand the confusion of trying to find a reliable "opportunity" and the debate of whether to go with free or paid. I was just like everyone else starting out and wallowed in the confusion myself for a while. I ended up choosing the right "paid" opportunity (thank the Lord) and have been very pleased with the results of my growing online business.
I hope you will be able to do the same and find something that is just right for you without getting discouraged while wading through the rubbish heap. 
Blessings,
Angie
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#275 · Posted: 1 Mar 2009 14:13
I completely agree with happywife...it took a significant amount of time for me to actually take the jump and commit to a program. I actually tried several without success proir to the tools that I am currently using with great success. I fell the most beneficial advice that I could offer would be to commit to yourself.
Plan to Work & Work the Plan. There are no successful get rick quick schemes, there are however proven models that drive performance. Find one that works for you, fits your style and will help you drive success.
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#276 · Posted: 1 Mar 2009 22:56
CouponMom: I'm just curious if "in general" WAH opportunities are more solid when an investment is required up front, or if the opportunity is presented free. On one hand free offers always upsell somewhere in the backend, but yet offers which require an investment before you get started are almost always classified as scams, its like a paradox lol
To be totally honest, I haven't noticed a difference. I do one WAH that I had to pay about $100 up front for, and I've already made a lot of money off of it, but I have another where I have paid nothing outside of $2 for shipping and have made just about as much money.
They are two very different programs. The one that I paid up front for is a sales type of WAH program, and the one that I didn't pay anything up front for is nothing but posting links. Both have been great programs that have done a lot to improve my income. I graduated from college just under two years ago, and due to the economy I haven't been able to get anything that pays more than $12 per hour, which means that before I was doing these programs I had next to nothing. One of them is the link in my signature, which is a highly reccomended program. It's an up-front payment thing, but it's not too expensive.
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#277 · Posted: 9 Mar 2009 17:24
Thanks for the info! I just submitted my resume to ClickNWork. We shall see how it goes! Thanks!
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#278 · Posted: 12 Mar 2009 06:00
those are just great list... I would probably visit those websites... thanks for this great source of home jobs.. really aprreciated
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#279 · Posted: 12 Mar 2009 23:57
I have tried several online job opportunities and most of them are scams. I have been successful however trading on websites like anything4free.com. There are several similar trading websites but anything4free is the one that i personally use. These websites can seem very complicated to use at first but they are really very easy and straight foward if you know what your doing and how much money you make (you get paid through paypal) is directly dependent on how much time you spend working. In order to trade on a website like anything4free, I highly recommend doing it through projectpayday.com which is a site that very clearly explains step by step what you need to do to make money in three different methods, each more profitable and safe than the last. I would jump on project pay days site - projectpayday.com - and sign up because until march 13th you can sign up for free and make money without even having to get out your credit card, knock on wood. Try it out it really works and I am not an affiliate to any of the sites above so I am not profiting by sending you to them. They are legitamate sites that I have used personally to make several thousand dollars.
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#280 · Posted: 23 Mar 2009 04:00
People make up success stories to promote their products..
I have seen a lot, I even bought some products by fasinated their hype advertisments thing like $500 daily money just work 1hours day~~
There is nothing free, and nothing is easy to get.
Without an efforts, you will come up with empty..
Keep it in mind Internet Marteting is succeed by countless time of works
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