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wyntersheart269
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#1 · Posted: 15 Aug 2009 13:35


What are your top "warning signs" when investigating an online oppurtunity? What immediatly makes you go .."No way.?"


What is the information you look for to get a "geen light" for an online oppurtunity? What makes you think "I might give this a try?"

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#2 · Posted: 15 Aug 2009 14:47


Hi wyntersheart,

Some warning signs are:

- if it sounds too good to be true, stay away
- if it feels too urgent or pushy, stay away

Learn to listen to your gut more than your mind.

I usually look on forums that seem trustworthy to see what the quality members seem to prefer.

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#3 · Posted: 15 Aug 2009 16:14


One caveat on the "it sounds to good to be true" with the internet marketing means "it sounds to good to be true" doesn't always carry the same sentiment as it has been known for historically.

That being said, some of the best looking opportunities are a money scam, because people go to extremes these days. Recent demise of Regensis2x2 shows that.

One of the main things to look for on the positive side, could be, being able to make live contact. How much is a person making themselves accessible to help and support people to be successful in the biz opportunity. With the internet personalization has often taken a back seat, but a good opportunity will generally not find people hiding their full contact information, or willingness to share it.

Prosperity

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joanpeterson
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#4 · Posted: 17 Aug 2009 02:05


One thing that should definitely make someone go "No way!" is gifting programs. No matter what spin someone puts on them, they are all illegal.

Then there are ponzi scams like regenisis 2x2. There are hundreds of those out there. You will see their websites talk about how much you can make but don't show any actual product. One recently said it's marketing system was it's product. However, it was still a ponzi because nothing existed besides the marketing system to get people into the scam.

And HYIP's offering high percentages are also all ponzi's and are all illegal. I saw a good one the other day - promised something like 2500% in a couple of days. Oh - that those kind of returns would show up in one's 401k!

And another thing to steer away from are those that are so vague that you can never really figure out what they are about and what they sell.

And most things promoted on forums like asa and moneymaker group are scams. I would stay away from those places.

A great source of information in forums is here or at the warrior forum.

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#5 · Posted: 17 Aug 2009 03:55


Immediate red lights...
-No identifiable product
-Cash gifting
-Anything Matrix
-We do all the work, you make all the money
-No sales or recruiting required
-Claims of huge incomes (especially from people who look broke)
-Bad grammar or misspelling

These are some of my favorites.

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moneymaker1008
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#6 · Posted: 18 Aug 2009 01:28


Too many testimonials
Inflated claims
As seen on... (TV shows, etc)- not always a scam but usually

If it looks anything like this site (it's a scam-parody):
http://www.buymystupidebook.com

-Danielle

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#7 · Posted: 18 Aug 2009 06:27


moneymaker1008:
If it looks anything like this site (it's a scam-parody):
http://www.buymystupidebook.com

Hi Danielle,

That site always makes me laugh.

It's been around for years - since 2006 - and I never tire of peaking at it.

Thanx for the invitation to have yet another good laugh :)

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andygsmith
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#8 · Posted: 18 Aug 2009 07:51


Hi everyone, Im a newbie to this forum but thought id join in on this one!

Now you have an idea of what to avoid, I thought id offer something contructive on what to look for. From my experience the best thing to do is to find a number of products that are all relevant to the same target market and then set about building a list of opt-in subscribers.

As an example, if you are interested in pets then you could build a list for pet lovers and over time promote ebooks and products, such as pet grooming, or general pet care. There are loads of products out there in every niche, but owning your own list is important for long term success.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this? Overlapping products and opt-in lists, Autoresponders, etc?

Andy

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DaveWalters
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#9 · Posted: 18 Aug 2009 17:32


Alot of good advice here. I think it all comes down to common sense. Does the opportunity make sense, can you easily understand the purpose and what you will do? Is it easy to see the potential and how you will make money? If you are confused after investigating it, forget it and move on. Do your homework and trust your instincts.

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debbystewart
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#10 · Posted: 18 Aug 2009 23:23


For me, it is if they ask you to pay anything. You shouldn't have to pay for anything that you are supposed to get paid from.
Huge red flag.

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andygsmith
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#11 · Posted: 19 Aug 2009 03:54


Hi debby,

I appreciate that it can be difficult to find money to invest in a business when finances are tight but it is important to make a distinction here.

Most business opportunities will require some kind of initial investment. It is important to differentiate between a job (where you exchange your time for money) and a buisness where you build an asset that continues to pay into the future.

Even online marketing costs money (research, tools to make your promotions easier and more effective, site hosting, the list goes on), but sometimes it is worth spending a little if the potential is there to make more.

That said, if you are looking for a job rather than a business then you should not need to invest your own money

Andy

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#12 · Posted: 19 Aug 2009 22:54


For me, the big red flag is "quick and easy" sales pitches. There are a lot of websites which make you believe that making money online is easy - and they use these pictures of big fancy houses and nice cars as "proof" that what they have to sell you "works". Usually, these people have no clue what they are doing, and the only way they really know how to make money is to scam others.

I think the best programs are those that promise you that hard work and effort is the only way to earn money online. These products don't sell as well - unitl they have established a good reputation - but they are a lot more realistic about things, and offer a much better chance for you to succeed.

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Sam_Jones
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#13 · Posted: 20 Aug 2009 06:54


What should warn me are:

1. If they seem to be promising the impossible.
2. I conducted a search on the company and get too many complaints.

When the above has been proved, I know the best thing to do then.

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#14 · Posted: 20 Aug 2009 08:41


Interesting thread here...

I do mostly affiliate marketing now, but I did spend oodoo bucks on network marketing stuff in the past....and learned a lot from it.

There is definitely a difference in what to look for when you are looking for a business, versus more of an online 'job' if you want to call it that.

It is still kinda like your own business, even if you are doing affiliate marketing as you are your own boss and the only way you will get paid is if you get the work done.


Most of my red flags have been mentioned here already but anyone that spends over ten grand in home business opportunities, like I did, probably did not heed all the red flags anyways.....

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#15 · Posted: 20 Aug 2009 11:06


i usually avoid product that says can make money in 10 minutes or in 24 hours. It can be if you have been in the field for quite some time. but if you're newbie 10 minutes or 24 hours you can make money sound ridiculous

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#16 · Posted: 20 Aug 2009 11:28


There is a common saying & I wish it were'nt true, or we probably would'nt be having this conversation "If it sounds to good to be true, then it usually is".

Always remember this when purchasing something that seem's a bit far fetched & why is the guy/girl selling it for $39 & bombarding your inbox with emails, when he/she is making $1000 - $2000 a day - you do the maths !

I wish i did'nt have to advertise & type so much & link up my website(s) as much, but that is the reality of this & nearly every other business out there & WAH is no different to any other business.

Be wary of the get rich quick screenshots (you know the one's) , although there are still genuine folk out there, who want people to progress steadily & give a realistic outlook to this business.

Mark

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Shannon1ford
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#17 · Posted: 22 Aug 2009 09:37


After losing a few hundred on a couple fake opportunities The best advice I can give is to email or phone the company selling it and ask for a demo or proof.
Most scams you will find that getting info or real proof out of them is nigh on impossible.

Thankyou moneymaker for posting buymystupidebook i lost it was the funniest thing I have seen in ages.

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