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TJamMoneyMan
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#21 · Posted: 21 Mar 2008 11:44 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
FreeCashMan: Also beware that some people are quick to label a program a scam
U ain't kidding!!
I have been trying to give invitations out to join that 100% FREE TO JOIN Payment Processor, that is now giving away $25 to each person who signs up.
There is absolutely no obligation, and you don't even have to give up your bank info to get the $25 - they will mail you a check!
You can even cancel the account after you get paid!
I have gotten the $25 myself, and shown people emails of other folks I invited to receive $25, who took up the invitation and got PAID.
STILL people think it's a scam!!
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#22 · Posted: 21 Mar 2008 17:39
Homeboy: One thing that really is a scam is online gambling. As a programmer myself, I can promise you that those games are entirely rigged, and you WILL lose. You will NOT 'beat the house' using ANY super special secret system you happen to find on ebay, just trust me on this one.
You're right that online gambling is rigged to make you lose. That's
true of real casinos too. The odds are always stacked against you.
However, you're wrong saying that you can't "beat the house".
You see...what does it mean to "beat the house"?
If someone plays one hand and wins, then quit. Have they
not beaten the house?
The casino not only understand the mathematical odds involved but
also the psychological factors involved. People do win but most of
the time the lose it right back. People who lose will lose even more
trying to "win back".
But you're right, stay away from them casinos!
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#23 · Posted: 22 Mar 2008 03:35
040107: If someone plays one hand and wins, then quit. Have they not beaten the house?
Not unless the person is DEAD!!
For more than likely, they WILL return, sooner or later in life, to that casino or another, to gamble again, and eventually LOSE!
ODDS be like dat!!
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#24 · Posted: 22 Mar 2008 10:57
TJamMoneyMan: Not unless the person is DEAD!!
I guess I would have to wait till that day until I can say I've
"beaten" the casino...hehe. The casino will have a hard time getting
their money back since I'm not a gambling type.
However, I'm sure people would pay big bucks to hear my story though. 
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#25 · Posted: 1 Apr 2008 21:49
There are so many multilevel marketing companies now, that I think it is a mistake to be told to avoid them all. Even old established companies are now developing multilevel pay plans, which are legal and ethical.
The only ones who really get burned in multilevel pay plans, assuming the company is an honest and established one, are those who join and then quit before they ever give themselves a chance to get going. Certainly, they could never run a regular business like that, but something about the word multi-level seems to make people think that it is going to be an easy ride to wealth.
All businesses involve work to be successful. The multilevel aspect is just another way to reward you.
That said, I do myself avoid multi-level plans that are too gimmicky in my estimation--have so many people in one leg before 3 credit card sales, etc., etc.
But by and large, multilevel is a way of life now, especially with online marketing.
Jeremy
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#26 · Posted: 2 Apr 2008 05:15
Working the internet is a daily gamble!
Neil
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#27 · Posted: 4 Apr 2008 01:28 · Edited by: getagrip
jeremyfive: There are so many multilevel marketing companies now, that I think it is a mistake to be told to avoid them all.
I didn't say to avoid them all - I said that there are some legitimate ones. However, even some of the "legitimate" ones, however, seem scammy. For example, I know of one where people do make money with it, but the product cost about $50 for a months supply - and many of the sales reps claim it cures diseases.
In fact, I read one article where someone refused cancer treatment for a brain tumor because of her strong belief in the MLM product - and even after docters pointed out to her that the MLM product wasn't having any effect on the tumor, she still refused treatment because of her faith in the MLM product.
So...not only is she throwing away her money on this product, but if the tumor grows - the MLM product might actually KILL her since she is not getting the medical treatment she really needs. Sad story - and this MLM company makes something like $400 million a year. What a rip off! 
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#28 · Posted: 4 Apr 2008 02:05 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
getagrip: even after docters pointed out to her that the MLM product wasn't having any effect on the tumor, she still refused treatment because of her faith in the MLM product.
Typical MLM disease!!
They believe soooo strongly in their products!
They don't even recognize that THEY ARE NOT MAKING MONEY!
(not decent money anyway)
That's all you hear, how great their products are.
Fact is, all 'weight loss' products, MLM or not, are worthless scam-garbage.
Proof?
Weight loss products - BILLION dollar business.
America, - now at 60% overweight and climbing!
Now with more overweight children.
Overweight babies!
RAMPANT OBESITY.
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#29 · Posted: 4 Apr 2008 02:13
040107: The casino will have a hard time getting their money back since I'm not a gambling type.
doesn't matter.
Someone ELSE will give it to them!
Possibly someone who hears your story, and sez, hmmmm...
The house WINS!
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#30 · Posted: 4 Apr 2008 04:20
TJamMoneyMan: Fact is, all 'weight loss' products, MLM or not, are worthless scam-garbage. Proof? Weight loss products - BILLION dollar business. America, - now at 60% overweight and climbing! Now with more overweight children. Overweight babies! RAMPANT OBESITY.
I totally agree! Burn The Fat Feed The Muscle author Tom Venuto really opened my eyes to a lot of that. 
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#31 · Posted: 18 Apr 2008 00:47
Im a newbie, I think I need to learn more on this site
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#32 · Posted: 18 Apr 2008 01:57
Is web20mentor saying affiliate marketing is a scam?
I was a complete beginner in this field in late 2004, I hadn't got a clue about internet marketing in any sense - just a real desire to earn some cash online. I bought one ebook (google adwords 123) which described in detail how to become an affiliate, where & how to choose products and how to set up an adwords account etc. and within 3-4 months I was making a full-time living online (this month so far earnings are well over $4000). Yes it's true, it can be difficult (like starting any business) but it is entirely possible! you do need to select a reputable source for gaining the required information and knowledge (google perry marshall - excellent source of professional info).
Not everything is a scam nor is every 'paid for' product a scam - it's just difficult to sort the useful from the useless.
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#33 · Posted: 18 Apr 2008 12:26
None of these are scams if you make money from them. I personally have made money and been paid with paid surveys, mlm, and affiliate marketing. Get rich ads can be a scam, but if you actually do your due dilligence before joining or investing in anything you will not get scammed.
I would also ad that expect to work and learn skills if you want to make any money on the internet. If you are not willing to do that you are only scamming yourself.
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