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ateamfuntimer
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#221 · Posted: 20 Apr 2008 10:36 · Edited by: ateamfuntimer
Many people look at the Coastal Opportunity and see the great potential but shy away for various reasons. For some its the higher start-up cost. Most home based businesses offer you an opportunity to get started for a few hundred dollars while at level one the start-up fee is anywhere from $1295 ( level one ) for traditional Coastal to $1995 ( level one ) with the Coastal Closing center. Another thing that deters many is that you don't make money right away. After making the investment for the package to get started, setting up websites, and advertising making money right away is a much needed factor.
So what to do? Id say join the Coastal Closing Center. Now when a statement like that made it needs to be backed up. So here are the reasons I believe you should.
1- Lower start-up cost
You can get started for as low as $69.95. At this price even those that want to "test" the waters can afford to get started. At this price you don't have the closers at the call center kick in until you make at least one sales but if you up your investment to $720 the call center starts making calls for you. In addition at the $720 mark you have no website fees ( at the $69.95 level your site is $49.95 a month). Most of the groups offer websites on average at about $50 a month ( some more than that). If you look at your yearly cost that amounts to $600 so getting started at the $720 is an attractive option especially when you factor in having a group making calls for you.
2- You make money right away
As a new associate most are concerned with making back the money that they have invested to get started. With the Coastal Closing Center you make commission on your first sales. Yes right from your first sale you can make money. What could be better than that? We are all in business to make money and this gives a new person the opportunity to do just that. In addition the system is a 1up so its more conducive to becoming profitable faster. I see this as a truly innovative system
3- This system maximizes your time
Duplication is the key in most MLM's , direct sales and home based business opportunities. For many creating this duplications is a challenge. With most people that are looking to get started having prior obligations such as families and multiple jobs finding the time to make calls can be a challenge. With a call center you have a staff dedicated to making calls for you as well as your teammates. Now of course you can still make calls yourself and close deals on your own. Its like creating multiple profit centers.
4- I believe in this system
For the past 3 years I have been working the Coastal business opportunity. I have seen many systems and tried a bunch of them. My experience as a leader in this industry and the interaction I have had with the various other leaders has given me a nice perspective on how this business works. In my opinion to be successful you need to have a good lead source ( prospects to talk to ), a good way to deliver the info to those prospects ( making calls or sending emails ) and a method to follow up. The call center option in conjunction with working the business on your own does all of this. For this reason I believe in this system.
So for new people looking at Coastal Vacations I encourage you to be at least open to investigating this option. Is it for everyone? Probably not. But it does create some amazing opportunities to become profitable faster, get started at less of an investment and create faster duplication. None of us can tell you what to do but I know that if I had known of this option when I first looked at Coastal it would have been a no-brainer to join it. You see in my first 7 weeks of starting in Coastal we made over 10k. Now this was the traditional way where we had to do two sales at level one then 2 at level two then 2 at level three to be level three qualified. I look back at the people we gave up on the way and understand if I had those people in my call center option it would be a windfall. So if you have questions you can air them here or contact me directly. But again I encourage you to take a look at this option.
Adam Frederick
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#222 · Posted: 22 Apr 2008 23:24
ateamfuntimer: In addition the system is a 1up so its more conducive to becoming profitable faster
Hi Adam,
I was under the impression that Coastal Vacations required 2up. Can you elaborate?
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#223 · Posted: 23 Apr 2008 00:34 · Edited by: mountainmom5
ateamfuntimer: In addition the system is a 1up so its more conducive to becoming profitable faster. I see this as a truly innovative system
Hey Adam - so how do you fill out their directors releases with only 1up? There are 2 spaces on the documents for the 2 training sales...
If a person gets started at Platinum or Level 3 do you still require them to pass up 2 training sales at each level, or do they only have to pass up 1 sale at Platinum?
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#224 · Posted: 27 Apr 2008 19:28
Thanks for the replies and I apologize for the slow response. For the past few weeks I have been involved in some great projects that will improve the way I can help anyone getting started in Coastal. So let me address a few questions.
For years many of the groups have created specials to get people qualified and profitable. I remember Nitsa Nakos running a promotion where she made I believe it was over 30k in a matter of days by waiving a training sale and letting people get qualified with one sale. Now im not saying this is how the 1up system works but saying that the precedent has been set by many groups that have been extremely profitable in the past. In the past I have seen directors get associates qualified by using retail sales they have made and basically giving those names to the associate to qualify them. Another issue that has arise is a privacy issue. I for one dont want my information on a form that is distributed around the world and people having access to that info. Identity theft is a real issue.
Now to address the other question. In the Coastal Closing Center when you get started at level 3 you are qualified at the lower levels ( level 2 + level 1). So its an incentive to come in higher. The same goes for coming in level 2. You start at level 2 and you are level 1 qualified.
The goal is to get profitable. How many of you have had people QUIT because after buying the package, paying for leads and websites and waiting to get their 2 sales they are broke. Make people profitable quicker and they stick around. You build a stronger larger team and everyone wins.
Adam Frederick
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#225 · Posted: 27 Apr 2008 20:24
Thanks Adam - I know we can basically work our business whichever way we prefer but wasn't sure how you could get by with only one name on the release.
Another way to help them is by helping them work their leads for awhile. You can do that in various ways as well.
There are so many ways to run a Coastal business. That is just one of the beautiful things about it!
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#226 · Posted: 29 Apr 2008 18:08
Hi All,
Here is the answer to a couple of questions about the "Up Sales"
and the Directors Release.
When someone joins us at any Director Level, you are empowered
through the Center immediately to receive your Release with the
simple purchase of your Director Level Entry with us.
That is with our without the package by the way. So you could use
the wholesale cost of the package(s) for marketing, etc. unless you
really needed the package now.
Your release says "Call For Details" on both the training sale lines
on the release. Why? Because it did not take long for people to
realize they did NOT want their name plastered all over the world
as a "training sale" with their phone number on releases.
So .. that works just fine.
Then, in the Center, we no longer require "Pass Up" sales without
pay. That just doesn't work today, when people need to make money
and be earning NOW.
So, we implemented an instant income system where sales are now
split between the Director and new person.
You can attend one of our web casts to have it all explained.
Have a great week, all!
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#227 · Posted: 19 May 2008 06:24
Wow this Coastal vacations forum sure has changed since I was posting here last year.
The obvious hype and sales pitches that are seen in this thread was never allowed before.
Jim, yes I tried to sell Coastal packages, I used WCYS (NOTHING, NADA,ZERO!) to "close my sales" I paid a fee plus a monthly fee and they would not call my hot prospects the prospects had to call them, no one ever called them.
I HAD my own site plus joined a few of the groups. Joining a group will not really sell more packages for you.
With all the closing centers and groups the monthly fee is what made me quit. AND to have to pay a substantial fee up front is also unacceptable!
I am also with GRN and now WCYS people are pitching GRN to "close their sales" huge setup fee and again huge monthly...
again UNACCEPTABLE!
So whats your speel Jim? Do you charge the exhorbitant setup fee plus a monthly? (anything over commission only is a exhorbitant fee!!!)
And my friend Adam, see you are still hanging in there.
Used to be if you offered the packages for less including and not limited to a 1up you were all but thrown out as a "traitor 
hmmmmm things they are a'changin....
So the BOD is what MIA??
Very interesting guys.... good to see you all again 
Terri
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#228 · Posted: 19 May 2008 06:27 · Edited by: luvtravel
closerjim: GRN as well as a couple other "we really sell travel like it should be and we're hot because of it" companies have had major major (did I say Major?) issues with their marketing approach .. meaning they have had trouble staying in business because of the legal issues they face.
Hey Jim, I am with GRN what exactly do you mean by "legal issues we face" When making a claim like that I demand explanation of exactly what you mean!!
Be extremely specific about the "legal issues GRN is facing.
GRN is a travel membership and none of us (unless we really are travel agents) represent ourselves as a travel agent, unless they are also selling YTB or traverus, PLUS Coastal gives you the opp to be a "TA" !
Terri
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#229 · Posted: 22 May 2008 15:21
Hi Terri,
It's not unusual for the Distributors of a company to be unaware of
issues going on with a company. It's not on their agenda to broadcast
any issues like that to anyone.
A source that was supplying leads to them told me of their issues and
that's as far as I'm taking it.
I appreciate your "demand" to know more. This is as "specific" as I
will be as I'm not here to spend time talking about them beyond what
I already said.
WCYS ... of course they would not call your hot prospects. They don't
do outbound calls. We do.
No, we don't charge a monthly fee for the sites we give and tools.
Yes, we charge a 1 time Sign Up Fee to pay the staff. Since we don't
take commissions from Member Sales .. the staff have refused to
work for free ... so there had to be a fee to pay them. Go figure.
You're invited to attend one of our weekly Webcasts tues through
thursday if you care to learn more. You can get set up by going to
http://moreinfo.thecoastalclosers.com where you will see the dates
times and how to download the web interface for the conf. room.
The big focus is that we do not require the "Pass Up Sale with no Pay"
any longer. There is a better way and in today's economy, putting
money in your pocket FASTER (get paid on your first sale not third)
is a great way to do that.
Have a super weekend everyone ...
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#230 · Posted: 22 May 2008 22:22
Just for clarification,
WCYS will call leads if you ask them to and they have been qualified which means they have said they do have start-up funds. I have also had them call opt ins just out of the blue without me asking them to do so.
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#231 · Posted: 22 May 2008 22:35
closerjim: It's not unusual for the Distributors of a company to be unaware of issues going on with a company. It's not on their agenda to broadcast any issues like that to anyone. A source that was supplying leads to them told me of their issues and that's as far as I'm taking it. I appreciate your "demand" to know more. This is as "specific" as I will be as I'm not here to spend time talking about them beyond what I already said.
Jim,
I too am a member of GRN and would really like to know what you are talking about. I would think it was strange for a person selling leads to have inside info on a company they are doing business with and noone else actually in the company knows about it. I do know that GRN has lawyers that have to approve EVERY MOVE they make as far as promotion, pay plan, and systems and anything else they do. They are above board on ALL counts. The WCYS team had to go through a MAJOR pain-staking process to get their version of the call center up and running for GRN. It had to be approved by GRN cooporate and their lawyers and that was not an easy process. They are very particular about what happens with their company and strive to make sure that it is legal and fair to all.
Some may ask why a staunch Coastal person like me is also in GRN. It's because I want to offer my people options. Coastal is VERY different than GRN. GRN is completely online and has NO voucher system. I personally like the vouchers in CV and have used them before. They are great for fundraising and promoting your CV business or any other business. But for people who just want to go online and book a stay, GRN is great. Both companies are totally different and should be promoted that way. I was reluctan to even post anything about GRN in here since this is the Coastal area but since it was brought up in this negative way I felt I needed to post this. Jim, please produce your evidence if you actually have any.
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#232 · Posted: 23 May 2008 05:30
Hi Harold,
I appreciate your post and questions.
First, with GRN, the lead provider shared with me that GRN hit a
"snag" (layman's term for legal issues) over Distributors representing
themselves as "Travel Agents" to the vendors of the vacations GRN
offers.
How he came to be informed, was because of direct dealings with
the affected individuals.
What many people are not aware of, is "sharing" or being a "sub-
agent" is NOT viewed as a bona fide Travel Agent by many providers
of vacation destinations. And ... they aren't. They didn't go through
the training, have not booked the travel required to earn the min.
amount of travel commissions and those providers got their back
up about it, causing actions against GRN.
Clearly, that's not what GRN wanted and they have since taken
measures to clear it up. Which would include educating their
Distributor force as carefully as possible, without causing issues
over it.
I own a company (The Coastal Closers) and I've been with
companies holding leadership positions... and no, they do NOT make
announcements of this sort of thing to their distributor force.
I do appreciate the "just go online and book it" approach. We have
had that available through The Coastal Closers FREE OF CHARGE
through our own online Travel Agency and those that want to be
in the pay stream, can do so for $400 and $49 a month.
You share in the travel commissions, people get awesome deals
and it goes well with our Coastal sales.
Our product expert pointed out GRN is basically using one of the
Level III Coastal Package components ... ie: the travel agency that
does the online booking for the L3 package and are simply reselling
that under the GRN Marketing name. That's fine too. We just chose
to use a different booking house for that service as it was easier
and less expensive.
Coastal has a huge advantage and is one of the last of their type
in this one regard. By maintaining their way of doing business, as
a supplier of product to Directors, rather than having the "Distributor"
relationship with people ... they remain insulated from issues that
a Distributor can bring on a company.
Meaning, if you have been around for awhile, all it takes is one
person saying or acting the wrong way and they can cause an
entire company to be shut down while it's "sorted out" and fixed.
Coastal doesn't have that problem because we are not Distributors
with a contract with a company. I appreciate that myself.
If you have had WCYS call leads for you on an outbound basis, you
can count yourself as fortunate. We have many former WCYS people
who have not enjoyed such treatment and they don't post that
they will do this in any text I've seen.
With that ... let's have a super weekend!
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#233 · Posted: 23 May 2008 10:12
closerjim: First, with GRN, the lead provider shared with me that GRN hit a "snag" (layman's term for legal issues) over Distributors representing themselves as "Travel Agents" to the vendors of the vacations GRN offers. How he came to be informed, was because of direct dealings with the affected individuals. What many people are not aware of, is "sharing" or being a "sub- agent" is NOT viewed as a bona fide Travel Agent by many providers of vacation destinations. And ... they aren't. They didn't go through the training, have not booked the travel required to earn the min. amount of travel commissions and those providers got their back up about it, causing actions against GRN.
Jim,
GRN makes it VERY CLEAR that any of their affiliates are NOT travel agents. The membership we sell is associated with a travel agency who does all of the booking for us and has the website that we do online booking with.
You mentioned "vendors of the vacations GRN
offers." GRN doesn't offer "Vacations" so to speak like Coastal does. We do not have "Vendors" of vacations. We have the one travel agency that we use for everything. You choose an area of the world you want to go to and then look at the resorts that are available in that location. If you want it you book it or you let them book it for you.
The travel agent requirements don't apply to us simply because we aren't travel agents and don't pretend to be. At least not the people I'm associated with. There is no reason to be because we are not booking trips for others. It sounds like you are getting your info from an unreliable source that doesn't know what he or she is talking about. It's always good practice to verify rumors before posting them in a public forum.
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#234 · Posted: 23 May 2008 11:54
closerjim: Our product expert pointed out GRN is basically using one of the Level III Coastal Package components ... ie: the travel agency that does the online booking for the L3 package and are simply reselling that under the GRN Marketing name.
Jim,
I know for a fact that Coastal does not use the same "Booking agent" for the level 3 package. GRN has EXCLUSIVE rights to this company in the USA so your info is wrong there, too. If anyone has any questions to the validity of this statement please message me or email me and I will gladly tell you who GRN represents. It's always best to get your info from someone in the program and I am in both Coastal and GRN and can tell you about both. Both have GREAT points and i like to exploit those points for my members.
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#235 · Posted: 27 May 2008 09:55 · Edited by: luvtravel
closerjim: Our product expert pointed out GRN is basically using one of the Level III Coastal Package components ... ie: the travel agency that does the online booking for the L3 package and are simply reselling that under the GRN Marketing name. That's fine too. We just chose to use a different booking house for that service as it was easier and less expensive.
WHAT???
WHO is using a "booking agent" and reselling it under GRN?
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Terri
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#236 · Posted: 27 May 2008 10:03
ateamfuntimer: Lower start-up cost You can get started for as low as $69.95. At this price even those that want to "test" the waters can afford to get started. At this price you don't have the closers at the call center kick in until you make at least one sales but if you up your investment to $720 the call center starts making calls for you. In addition at the $720 mark you have no website fees ( at the $69.95 level your site is $49.95 a month). Most of the groups offer websites on average at about $50 a month ( some more than that). If you look at your yearly cost that amounts to $600 so getting started at the $720 is an attractive option especially when you factor in having a group making calls for you.
The $720 version is NOT COASTAL vacations!
Terri
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#237 · Posted: 27 May 2008 10:45
Good Morning To All Readers,
Hope everyone had a great Memorial Day Weekend.
$720 is NOT Coastal Vacations ... that's very true. What it is, is the
lowest entry level for The Coastal Closers.
At that level, a person can start who doesn't have the funds to start
with the Level 1 Package and wants to get the wheels of commerce
turning ... with their own built in Sales Team.
We make it as easy as possible to get going and start earning.
Since this isn't the GRN board, I won't respond further to the chatter
on it here. The source I heard my info from was reliable. GRN has
handled the issues that had come up from what I can see (since you
are still in business) and that's a good thing, as it doesn't help the
industry at all when "bad things happen to good companies" as the
say.
There's a lot of ways to go. The best way is the one that works for
you and that's what we're all about here.
Success is a journey ... with the destination bringing a moment of
reflection before we realize, we miss the journey.
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#238 · Posted: 2 Jun 2008 14:31
Hi Adam,
I have been trying to contact you for awhile. I will be joining at the middle of this month and signed up for info on your website. Please email me any info in relation to getting started with Coastal Closers. Thank you.
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#239 · Posted: 9 Jun 2008 18:15
Hello "Nestea"....
When you're ready, please holler at me via the private message
or send me a message so I know who you actually are and see
that you're helped.
Adam has had family issues come up (moved, etc) and has been
out of pocket for a bit.
The great news? That's why we are here!
BIG BIG NEWS ... we have just adapted Funtime Vacations (who is
a major part of the Coastal Vacations Level I Package) as our primary
lead provider (they specialize in a great lead program) for our Member.
More on that when we visit.
Thanks ... looking forward to working with you!
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#240 · Posted: 9 Jun 2008 18:18
Hi Again Nestea,
I just found your Profile here, Vanessa ... will post a note in your
record on our end to have you contacted late this week.
They will be able to walk you through getting started.
Thanks ..
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