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linkmetro
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#141 · Posted: 2 Nov 2007 20:09 · Edited by: linkmetro
Hello Jeff,
Quoting: goldmills I have gone to a single focused and duplicatable system that teaches ONE WAY
We not just teach, but set-up the system providing FREE LEADS and tools for newcomers. Anyone can do it. No need to purchase countless ebooks and training materials. Plug into a proven system. I think most of the people who join try to re-invent the wheel.
I joined my group because I hate to make cold or warm calls or buying and paying for leads. This way my prospects calling me if they have interest or question. I'm in control.
Win-win for everybody.
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#142 · Posted: 2 Nov 2007 20:57
Link - are you talking about Coastal?
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#143 · Posted: 2 Nov 2007 21:29 · Edited by: linkmetro
Hello Bob,
Yes, what else??? Coastal Vacations fastest growing group.
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#144 · Posted: 2 Nov 2007 22:00
Quoting: linkmetro I joined my group because I hate to make cold or warm calls or buying and paying for leads. This way my prospects calling me if they have interest or question. I'm in control. Win-win for everybody.
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Link - you are making this sound to good to be true that it would obviously be BS in most peoples eyes - please reread what you wrote. If in fact that is what you meant - I think maybe an explanation would be good - and good for your cause as well.
No calling anyone? Free leads? Free leads - but who calls them? See what I mean - just sounds like the old to good to be true - so why bother looking into it - been there done that etc.
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#145 · Posted: 2 Nov 2007 22:47 · Edited by: linkmetro
Bob,
lol, go back and read my earlier posts.
"No calling anyone? Free leads? Free leads - but who calls them?"
Yep, NO CALLING Anyone. We do everything over the net. (but of course you are allowed to also apply additional marketing, in that case we can suggest many successful avenues and approaches if you wish.) But again: we cover all lead generation for you at no additional cost to you till you are released Level 3 director!
The only marketing cost on your end is the $19.95 per month. This fee gets paid to the auto-responder company that is responsible for sending out all your personalized and preloaded messages for you on a daily basis. Please remember, we also cover your entire business setup with includes uploading your personalized auto responder letters and also uploading your leads (on a 2-day basis) which we continuously produce for you till you are released Level 3 director.
What's more, we provide your people also with FREE Leads until they reach Level 3 status...Bob, this is REAL marketing with REAL support from group leader.
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#146 · Posted: 3 Nov 2007 12:03
Link, I'm going to have to agree with Bob on this.
What your stating sounds WAY too good to be true. I've been around this industry for 20 years now...I'm celebrating my 37th birthday in a few days and I can tell you that $20 per month will get you no where with Coastal or ANY company.
Sure a website, an autoresponder, a tool or two....BUT when it comes to business people want a Proven System - That's why Franchises sell so well. When you walk into McDonalds the fryer is always on the....Left! LOL...I even tested this at an upscale McDonalds in Orlando...Yep, right there on International Street - They've got some REALLY unusual menu items. BUT..THE FRYER IS ON THE LEFT!!!
When you consider the actions of top performers, many miss out on the WHY behind those actions. Many will see something and think "That's a good idea" and without knowing why it's being done or the budget to support it....they'll jump right in with both feet.
Many DO try to recreate the wheel, but WHY? Sometimes it's what the group is teaching and promoting. The CSG is heavily promoting B2B and Fundraising - Why? Because they want you to buy their tools and products.
You can be successful in this business with the RIGHT tools and the RIGHT systems in place. I prefer the Official System because it's the system with the MOST integrity. It's the system that calls the shots for ALL OTHERS! The Official Coastal Events are the events EVERYONE connects with to learn about new tools and new vacations in our membership.
When I listened to Jeff Mills make his announcement about moving away from the call center...wow, that did ALOT for his integrity and showed alot of compassion for his team which he brought to the call center. I'm not a fan of the call center, but the ad copy is well writen and attracts people to it. So, the WHY behind the change must be an eye opener.
In my opinion, he comes from the same place that I do. I want to see MORE people successful with Coastal. That's why I donate my time to different projects with Coastal. I get TONS of calls from directors looking for help in their business that they are not getting or they CAN'T get from their director.
In the end, this is a Fantastic business. You simply have to plug into the systems in place for you. IF WHAT YOUR DOING ISN'T WORKING....get with your director to change that. If they can't help you....We have an Official System in place to get your results.
One thing I'll also point out is how many Expect to simply make 5-10 calls, Place 1 classified ad, put up a simple website and expect the clouds to open and money to start pouring down. It doesn't work that way and YOU are the ONLY person who cares about your business. Because, at the end of the day....YOU pay your house payment, car payments, electric bill and the like.
Jay NaPier
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#147 · Posted: 3 Nov 2007 12:53
Quoting: jnapier I'm not a fan of the call center, but the ad copy is well writen and attracts people to it
Jay thats no surprise that you are not a fan of the Call Center, you make that point at every opportunity, yet you state that the copy is well written and attracts people to it. Some people call that effective marketing.
People join the call center for 2 reasons. The 1st is a choice, let the Call Center answer the phone, present the product, the business model, answer questions, take payment, drop ship the membership information and send the member the commission. The 2nd reason is because some new members initially ARE NOT COMFORTABLE ASKING FOR MONEY, they like the product but are not good at sales. After a period of time their comfort level increases and they get on the phone and before they know it they are on the phone doing the selling. Keep in mind that they too can offer to their new prospects the availability of the Call Center. Something that YOU can not offer.
Wether you are a member of the Call Center or not we still recommend our members to listen in on the Official Coastal Calls. Let me repeat that you can be a member of the Call Center and still be involved the the Official Systems, we do because it is a choice we made. We offer the best of both worlds, use the Call Center and use the Official Tools and Training.
You can continue to let everyone know that you are not a fan of the call center, thats great. I will continue to let people know that it is a tremendous tool to offer prospective members who might otherwise pass on the Coastal opportunity.
Jeff may have moved on to another model, but lets not overlook the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS he earned because the Call Center closed sales for him.
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#148 · Posted: 3 Nov 2007 13:17
Jay,
Quoting: jnapier IF WHAT YOUR DOING ISN'T WORKING....get with your director to change that.
I hope you're NOT talking about me...Our system is working just fine.
But I have a simple question for you:
With the official Coastal system how can I get leads?Quoting: jnapier What your stating sounds WAY too good to be true.
Like you go to Disney for 3-7 days, we go to Europe for 5 weeks. But I'm not brag about it.
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#149 · Posted: 3 Nov 2007 17:19
Very well said, Bill. People change and sometimes need changes. Jeff made the change because he thought it was best for his team. I am a personal team member of his and DID NOT switch because I feel the call center is best for me and the people I have and want on my team. If I was at home during the day and didn't work a fulltime job I would make calls just like you guys but I know A LOT of people who think that calling leads is not a duplicatable system because it requires so much time. Most people that join this business work a fulltime job and want to be able to be successful but it takes time and some just don't have the time to make calls like you guys do.
Jeff leaving is not saying bad things about the call center. If you listened to his "farewell" call you heard him praise the call center and the people in leadership there. Ask Jeff right now if the call center is a good system and he will say yes. He felt it was time to make change and he offered that change to his team. Dani Johnson is a major part of his decision, also. I really like Dani and her training. I just started listening to her training when Jeff announced his move to DFI. It's great and can be applied to ANY TEAM AND SYSTEM. I am already applying it to my personal Coastal business. I'm happy for Jeff and his decision and I wish him great success with DFI. I also want to say that the callcenter system WORKS and WORKS WONDERFULLY. Ask a new member of this forum, Matt Willis, or "Victorious" as he is known here on the board if the call center is working for him. Ask Dean Marino if he is happy with the call center. Go to my site and listen to the testimonials of people making money with the call center. The call center works and again, we have the option to do Coastal both ways, with or without the call center. Having this option to offer new members is something that is invaluable to me and my team.
The call center is growing and changing. We are offering new ways to advertise and new ways to make our members money. Let me give an example of how we cover all the bases of recruiting new members. Last week our monday night training call was all about..... CALLING LEADS!!! Yes, that's right. We even talk about calling leads. Why would the call center want to spend time teaching it's members about calling leads? Because we want our team to have all the options and skills to make money with Coastal. Members requested training on how to call leads and talk to them and the call center gave it to them. We are a very well rounded team and offer our members the "Best of BOTH WORLDS" as Bill said above. Again, ask Jeff if the call center works. He went to Hawaii on vacation and made $25,000 while he was gone without talking to a soul because the call center did what it says it will do.
People change teams ALL OF THE TIME, for one reason or another. Jeff Mills made a decison that he feels was best for him and his team. I felt it wasn't the best choice for me and that's why I stayed. I encourage everyone who has questions about the call center to ask members of the call center like Bill, Dawn, Susan, Matt, or Myself or any of the current members. We will be glad to answer any questions. I am still proud to say that Jeff Mills is my director and that the techniques he taught me has made me THOUSANDS of dollars with Coastal Vacations and the We Close Your Sales Call Center. God Bless you, Jeff, and all of your team who moved to DFI. And also thank God for the call center. He lead me to it and I'm glad he did.
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#150 · Posted: 4 Nov 2007 09:21
Quoting: linkmetro With the official Coastal system how can I get leads?
It's very simple. The leads are sent to you by email. Or, you have them call your telecenter.
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#151 · Posted: 4 Nov 2007 09:44
Quoting: linkmetro Like you go to Disney for 3-7 days, we go to Europe for 5 weeks. But I'm not brag about it.
Yea, I'm right there with you. I've got a 9 year old daughter so we don't get to take many long trips. I did take 21 days of Vacations back in September. Orlando, Ft. Myers, Ft. Lauderdale, Miami- Cruised Carnival Elation to St. Thomas, San Juan, Half Moon Cay and one other port....I just keep forgetting.
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#152 · Posted: 4 Nov 2007 10:07
Wow what a thread. People are truly speaking their mind. This is the beauty of Coastal. Choice. I love it. Im not one to down any group anymore. Each and every group has its merits. As a member you have to pick what works for your situation. Thats the great thing we are all part of. Its your own business, treat it as such. The constant back and forth about which group is better is so unproductive. The truth of the matter is Coastal is amazing.
Now I promote that you use all the resources that the Coastal BOD have made available. Why you ask? First off the information is great. Second its free. It wouldnt make sense not to use a free great tool. Imagine putting together a bench and there is a new power drill sitting right there. Would you use it? Of course. Well use the Coastal tools.
As I have been around this business for almost 3 years now ive learned that its good to mix and match the tools. Alot of the highly successful directors have their own websites in addition to the duplicated ones out there. Why? Because it sets them apart. Thats a great idea.
Lets all give the proper resect to all the teams out there and stop the whose is better syndrome. All of the systems are great and have their merits. I think that Coastal is the right place to be at the right time.
Adam Frederick
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MONEY IS NEVER THE ISSUE! IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT COASTAL AND ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE START-UP FEE THEN CONTACT ME TO LEARN ABOUT OUR BRAND NEW A-TEAM COASTAL VACATIONS APPRENTICE PROGRAM.
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#153 · Posted: 4 Nov 2007 10:17
I don't see this on the site.
So you saying I don't have to promote none of the 4 websites comes w/package??
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#154 · Posted: 7 Nov 2007 21:02
Hey LM,
The program is not on the website. Its something ive created myself for new people looking into Coastal. As not to make this blatant promoting of myself I leave it to the new people to contact me for the details. Much has been said about people having agendas in the forum so I dont want to add to that. Im just like everyone else. Looking to bring new members into my team.
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Now for any frustrated directors my advise is to retail if you can. Most frustration ive experienced in this business has been directly proportional to my getting to attached to the people ive brought in Coastal. The fact of the matter is the majority of the people we bring in wont do anything at all in this business. Not because the business isnt good or because they arent capable but rather just because most people dont have what it takes to be successful in business ( the drive).
When you look at all the tools we have in place I find it hard that everyone doesnt succeed. That has been my biggest frustration. The way ive gotten over it is to retail. You get a fresh on the business. You meet new people and you dont have to long bond. I know so many say you have to be there for everything the client needs. I say different. I teach my client how to really use the package. This gives me some closure and allows me to not get frustrated.
This might be something some of you can use if you have frustration in your businss. I know it always works for me.
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#155 · Posted: 7 Nov 2007 22:23 · Edited by: jnapier
Quoting: ateamfuntimer When you look at all the tools we have in place I find it hard that everyone doesnt succeed. That has been my biggest frustration.
One of the things I took away from Jeffery combs Breakthroughs event was key to eliminating my frustration in this area. I noticed on the list of attendees was a husband and wife team who were on my team, but had quit Coastal. I'd never met them face to face, so I called them to chat.
At the event, there are alot of Breakthroughs. My breakthrough was courtesy of this husband and wife team. I learned that the emotional baggage they brough with them is what was keeping them from success in Coastal. They went onto a weight lose company, but that baggage went right along with them.
When you look at putting in a good days work, some are not able to do it as there's no boss and no timeclock. Others don't do what's required. Some just don't do enough work. There are 101+ reasons that people become frustrated, but the best of us overcome the frustration by challenging ourselves to be more.
Jay NaPier
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#156 · Posted: 8 Nov 2007 13:09
Hi everybody! I'm new in Coastal, I would like you to help me to answer this question related with a past post.
How is the process as a Director to help a new member to sell the first 2 packs? In which concrete things consists this help?
I mean, if the new member have to say to the prospects that he is new in the business and that he's doing his 2 training sales (so he will sell the pack but after that his/her Director will be another person)? I think it would be a bit confusing for the prospects, and then, difficult to do this 2 first sales. Or what's the way to do it then? I don't understand this well, I hope you could answer me!
Thanks for all! And congratulations for this great place full of tips and information to help Coastal people!
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#157 · Posted: 8 Nov 2007 21:58
Hi Spain,
Welcome to Coastal Vacations. 1) It's not something you'll bring up and if asked, you'll simply let the person know that your working with a ____________ ( Description provided by your director) and it's generally not an issue.
There are several ways to do this, so there's no 1 answer to the question. I ALSO have a program where my team member uses my tools to build their business and the recorded introduction specifically says "The person who sent you to this introduction...."
Jay NaPier
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#158 · Posted: 9 Nov 2007 01:28
Coastal Vacations can help you overcome any frustration. Its about plugging into the power we have as a group. If you are frustrated then get around the people. Get on a live call, attend a training call, get on your team forums, go to a live event or even come to a forum such as this.
The learning process is what keeps me from being frustrated. I see Coastal as an opportunity to continue my learning about business. I come in here just about everyday to see what the buzz is about. I come to see who is sharing what. I come to add my thoughts an opinions as well. I come to advertise the knowledge I can share. I come to help.
When you are feeling down the best thing to do is to do something for someone else. Giving is the best feeling in the world. Plus when you give you receive. Its not always about the financial aspect. In fact to me it's never about the financial aspect when it comes to sharing. As I give of myself im always blessed financially. Its a simple principle. If you want something to grow then sow a seed.
I make it my business to sow as many seeds as possible and the blessings overflow. Im rarely frustrated as im always giving which leads to always receiving. Its a constant cycle.
So if you are frustrated in Coastal just begin to give back. Talk about the situation that got you frustrated and what you have learned from it. Believe it when I say you sharing that story might save another person months of time as well as ton's of money.
Adam Frederick
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#159 · Posted: 9 Nov 2007 01:39
To Harold,
Thanks for being teachable and moldable. You took great notes and applied the tips and made money with it. I am very proud of you and want to extend a thank you to you for all the nice things you said about me.
I love seeing people grow and develop into success. I want more and more of my team to catch on, apply and do and I know more and more will see profits in their Coastal Vacations Club business no matter what system they use.
I am off to Dani Johnson's First Steps to Success Seminar Friday. If you are there, gimme a holla, I'll have a red ribbon on my name tag.
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#160 · Posted: 9 Nov 2007 07:31
Have a great time in Dallas Jeff.
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