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#241 · Posted: 10 Nov 2008 11:13
Has the Coastal business model ever frustrated me? I have to say a resounding YES. For years many methods have been pushed with the focus being put on the systems that create wealth for those on the top while taking that wealth from those on the bottom. Talk about a redistribution of wealth.
For years we have had websites that cost anywhere from $30- $150 a month. We have been buying leads that cost upwards of $10 a piece. You have been told after you bought the websites and leads that you needed coaching that again took wealth from you. All this is truly frustrating to anyone. Well I have some uplifting news to share with you all.
Imagine creating a free or low cost ( one time payment in the range of $150 ) website. Then generating your own leads that are targeted for you only for practically nothing. Ive created ways to do exactly this. Ive even offered coaching at a fraction of the cost that many other coaches offer and am in the midst of putting together a free Youtube channel of all Coastal training.
I dont mention all of this to make you all want to sign up with me but more to open your minds that if you look in the internet and learn a few simple tricks of the trade and industry you can save yourself thousands by doing so. Now there will be those that dont want to take that time and I suggest that by talking to those with experience like myself you will get a ton of info on how to get started in Coastal with a much lower budget. My goal has always been to run my Coastal business for as close to free as I can and gain as much profit as I can. I will have to say that I can actually do that these days.
I have - FREE ADVERTISING
FREE WEBSITES
FREE LEADS
That means all my profit is exactly that...profit. I look forward to helping as many people get started as possible and saving them as much money as they can.
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#242 · Posted: 14 Nov 2008 16:48
Hello to The Readers of this Thread,
At first, this may not seem like much of a "tip" --- but as you really
think it through, without this one, you could have a MAP and A
PICTURE drawn for you and you will still remain frustrated and still
be missing the boat, mark and time for your success.
Two people said it .... T. Harv Eker and Tony Robbins so don't blame
me for the "tough love" it gives.
Tony was asked "What DON'T people have what they want and go
where they want and do what they want?"
His answer: "People don't get what they want out of live mostly
because of the STORIES THEY TELL THEMSELVES about why they
don't have out of life what they want."
He continued, "If they want more out of life ... they need to be
telling THEMSELVES a different story first!"
T. Harv weighs in with this thought, that really describes HOW
YOU KNOW what story you have been TELLING YOURSELF.
He said, "How you do ANYTHING is how you do EVERYTHING."
"When you are shown a way to go that CLEARLY leads to where
you want to be ... and YOU GO THE OTHER WAY ... pay attention
to HOW YOU DID THAT and WHY."
"Because I guarantee you ... how you TURNED OFF that good
thing for you .... is how you DO IT THE OTHER TIMES TOO."
"What did you say to yourself (the story you are telling yourself
now!) ... to make yourself NOT GET THE GOOD THING? Was it
I don't have the money? I don't have the TIME? I'm too far gone
for this to work for me? ---- Whatever it is ... is what you use all
the time."
"If you want to CHANGE THAT ... change the story."
That's your tip. Most likely --- you THINK you have been doing
all that you can do ... and you didn't start with making sure YOU
aren't the limiting factor FIRST.
Still not getting there and you know you really have cleared the
way within?
Holler ....
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#243 · Posted: 7 Dec 2008 19:42
Hello Again Readers!
"Tips" ---- here's a few. And the obligatory disclaimer that nothing in
this post is meant to be taken as "legal advice" or "accounting advice"
or meant to "diagnose or treat any diseases" --- got it?
1. If you want to maximize the new Tax Plan coming --- you MUST have
a business you do from HOME.
2. If you did happen to join Coastal Vacations --- that by itself MAY NOT
QUALIFY as a Home Business. Why? Because if you're not working
it to the degree that you can show "intent to profit" --- and because
Coastal DOES in fact offer people the ability to simply make a Retail
Purcahse --- then just joining Coastal isn't enough.
3. If you CAN prove intent to profit through continuous and sustained
and verifiable activities with your business, then you have a whole
list of what we call (keeping in mind my background includes 22
years as a financial planner and my wife the same number of years
as the bookkeeper and office manager of various businesses)
"A LIST" DEDUCTIONS.
What are those? Things you ALREADY HAVE TO PAY FOR, but until
now have NOT been able (or simply haven't known how) to take
these as a deduction.
Don't think it's worth it to figure this out?
How much do you spend on up to 1/4 of your square footage of
the place you live if you rent? ANSWER: take your rent, divide by
4 and multiply by 12. Example: $800 rent / 4 = $200 X 12 = $2400
per YEAR that could be a write off.
How about that phone bill? The electricity? Garbage? Internet?
Do you have kids between the ages of 5 and 18?
Ok ... here is the "catch" to it all. If you just joined Coastal .. you
may or may NOT be able to PROVE that Intent we talked about.
If you joined a CALL CENTER FOR COASTAL ... the PROOF IS AUTOMATIC.
Why? Because a Call Center is NOT A RETAIL PURCHASE. It is 100%
a business expense and 100% makes you eligible to call your Coastal
business ---- A BUSINESS with intent to profit.
Just one tip to work on.
What's that worth to you today?
If you have a "Day Job" where they are taking out taxes (and by the
way ... if you think you're not paying taxes because you get a "refund" at the end of the year .. THINK AGAIN! Look at how much
they take out for the year. DID YOU GET IT ALL BACK or just the
part they say you over paid ie: the refund) --- you can go to the
person who does Payroll and change your EXEMPTIONS.
What if instead of them taking $200 or $300 or $500 per week
out of your check --- it was ZERO? Or 1/2 of what they have been
taking?
How can you do that? Because you're going to TAKE THE "A LIST"
deductions from now on!
But you have to be able to prove your business has the INTENT to
profit. Notice ... that doesn't mean you MUST PROFIT. People think
"you have to SHOW a profit in X years out of 5" --- and you don't.
That is a myth. Look how long the car makers have LOST MONEY!
There is no "law" that you have to make or show a profit. Just that
you TRIED to make one and can PROVE YOU TRIED.
That's where a Call Center comes in. They SHOW that intent.
And naturally ... if you are in the right one, you will make money.
And that's the ultimate name of the game!
I have spoken to people who have actually said, "It's ok ... if I made
more money it would just put me in a HIGHER TAX BRACKET so it's
ok that I'm not making money."
OH PLEAAAASE!
If you are used to making $50,000 now and you end up making
$150,000 and have to pay "Uncle" $35,000 of that (almost as much
as you used to make!) --- do you really expect us to believe you are
feeling bad about the $115,000 YOU GOT TO KEEP?
So ... let's talk and see if you can end some of the frustration by
getting some TAX BREAKS coming your way.
NOW if the time to start because ....
A. You can actually do a "look back" and recover some of the
money spent THIS YEAR for the tax year 2008.
B. You can be READY AND PREPARED FOR 2009!
Have a great week .....
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#244 · Posted: 8 Dec 2008 11:37
When I started Coastal we were taught to buy leads and then 'smiling and dialing'. It was really hard and not for the thin skinned.
I like the Direct Mail approach. Everyone understands a postcard and it gets noticed. The only thing is that you would want to follow the leaders in your group and learn to personalize your website. This way when prospects visit your website they will Want To opt in. Most of the time people who are doing well are not using the generic company website. They have a personalized landing page that sells themselves. Look at a guy like Jeff Mills--he has done it really well.
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#245 · Posted: 12 Dec 2008 01:06
Charlene, you got the branding going on big time on your gifting site, way cool.
Video marketing big time.
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#246 · Posted: 12 Dec 2008 01:36
The Year Is Ending!
Looking back on 2008, have you achieved your goals?
If you're in Coastal, there is plenty of "room" in the sale
process to have achieved your goals. Meaning with a
profit margin of a thousand dollars to SEVERAL thousand
dollars --- why didn't you make the mark, if you didn't?
Unlike some "programs" where there is NO product or
service and just money is being passed from person to
person (so, yes there can be resistance to that both
morally, ethically and legally), no such issues exist with
Coastal Vacations.
So, what would be the thing stopping someone from
achieving the financial objectives here?
Selling. Marketing. Follow up. Service. Time. Money.
Leads. Websites. Expenses.
Take your pick.
What if NONE of those were issues? Or at least none
were an issue that had to stop you.
Isn't what you want, worth exploring the options?
Have a great weekend.
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#247 · Posted: 13 Dec 2008 03:59 · Edited by: ateamfuntimer
The holidays approach and many begin to look back at the previous year and reflect. Did you accomplish what you desired for the year? If not what can you do to ensure the next year is better. These are questions many of us ask ourselves. Here is my tips for the new year.
1- SIMPLIFY YOUR OPERATION
This business is simple. It works like this. Get the opportunity in front of as many people as possible to create a large pool of potential partners. Follow up , follow up, follow up. Did I mention follow up. Then ABC. Always be closing. By this I mean that you should always be asking closing questions.
AUTOMATION IS KING
Create websites that give all the information. Use as many WEB 2.0 features such as video as possible. If a picture is worth 1000 words then how much is a video worth? As we all strive to open up more time in our schedules its important to have websites that do alot of the telling and selling for us. Most of the prospects that go through my sites have more than enough info to make a decision on getting started way before I even talk to them. My expertise is in sales and Ive been told I could sell ice to an eskimo but I cant do this 24/7. My websites fortunately can.
3- CREATE FREE LEADS AND TRAFFIC
Leads are the lifeblood of your business. Learn to create free and low cost leads for your business. In the past I have posted all through the Coastal thread as well as the thread Adam's Advantage on this subject. There are many options on doing this. There are traffic exchanges, forums, social networks and various other ways to do this online. In addition you can create leads offline very easily. I suggest cusomer appreciation days with local businesses. They are easy to conduct and in the past I have done very well with them. Again leads are your bread and butter so treat it as such.
4- GET TRAINED
The internet is a wealth of info. In the past years I have learned to create websites , generate free leads, partner with companies and barter my service and diversify my operations. I also had the opportunity to be trained by some of the best industry leaders. Ive done this through my associations with some of the top Coastal organizations as well as many free trainings ive gotten online. I encourage everyone to get trained. I even offer free trainings on my YOUTUBE channel ( currently being updated with loads of training) as well as my low cost one on one training. The more you know the better.
I hope that something I have said helps you in your Coastal journey. As always my door is open to anyone needing guidance. I look forward to working with anyone that needs that little extra to jumpstart their business.
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#248 · Posted: 27 Dec 2008 12:37
Here We Are .....
The last weekend of 2008.
What will 2009 bring? Will be be "more of the same" for those of you
who are in Coastal and "frustrated" that your Coastal business isn't
going like you hoped?
Not if you take the steps to find out what can be different!
All the things you've read ... "Get Trained" and "Simplify" and use
"Automation" are great ideas. My first suggestion would be, if you
haven't looked into those things, do so.
Then ask yourself, "And apply these things to WHAT?"
Ever heard the old saying, "No matter where you go ... YOU will
be there too."
What does that mean?
Simply this. Maybe it isn't the "system" or "simplification" or even
"training" that is the entire issue. Maybe it's YOU!
There are other alternatives to having it all be on YOU.
Maybe 2009 is the time to learn what is available.
You already know there is "no free lunch" so if that is what you
have been searching for (the FREE way into Coastal and the FREE
way to have sales made for you) .... stop looking. FREE doesn't
pay the bills for you or "them" (the people offering FREE).
But if you're looking for REASONABLE, FAIR, BETTER than FAIR and
a way that can work --- you can find that too. And that works.
Here's to a MASSIVE 2009!
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#249 · Posted: 31 Jan 2009 23:40
I have heard about some reps moving from Coastal to Global Resorts Network. Anyone know a reason? The pay plan? The service? I'm not sure why but I looked into GRN and it is paying off already.
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#250 · Posted: 3 Feb 2009 03:51
Good question as to "why" --- there is no level in GRN that will pay
you any where near what Coastal can and with new options in
Coastal to start with as little as $259.95 now, how could someone
not be able to work it?
There are some folks addicted to "change" or "new" and there are
people who simply have the "P.O.O.R." syndrome ... passing over
opportunity repeatedly.
Others simply lack the discipline to keep from the "greener pastures"
thinking.
But if someone is after real success ... the most powerful statement
that can be made when it comes to recruiting is when someone
asks you "So ... you still doing that thing you joined???"
And your answer is, "Yes."
Have a great week!
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#251 · Posted: 23 Feb 2009 12:22
The thing I love about free enterprise is that competition is good for the consumer as well as the business owner. In the past Coastal Vacations used to be the only kid on the block. This has changed. There are many travel opportunities on the market these days. For that reason many entrepreneurs learn one opt and become successful and then branch out a bit.
This is what has happened with all the opportunities in travel that have popped up. I encourage all entrepreneurs to branch out. Diversifying is a good thing. I do discourage the ones that just jump from opt to opt without learning the skills that can make you successful. You can be successful at any of the opportunities on the market. Ive done just that. Its because I understand a few simple points.
1- Offer a good product
2- Be honest and knowledgeable
3- Learn to adapt as the times do
I would encourage anyone that is involved in Coastal to learn as much as you can and apply it to any business you become involved in.
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#252 · Posted: 25 Feb 2009 15:16
Hi,
Is it possible to sell my package, I've not activate it and I don't want to continue with coastal.
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#253 · Posted: 26 Feb 2009 14:06
I would suggest getting in touch with the person you bought your package from and see if they have a return policy. But id like to ask you a question as well. Why not use the package and enjoy the travel deal. If you are in another home based business why not use the vacations in this package as incentives to promote your other business. The investment you made in the Coastal Package has tons of advantages so use them if you can.
Id love to go over how you can use your package and if you read many of the threads in this Coastal area you will see ideas on how to use your package. I hope this helps.
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#254 · Posted: 5 Mar 2009 11:41
If you would liek to turn around you Coastal business I have a few tips for you.
1- Learn to generate your own leads
Generating your own leads can be simple. You might create a newsletter prospects can subscribe to. What about using landing or squeeze pages. I recommend http://instantsqueezepagegenerator.com If you like it be sure to contact me for my affiliate #. You can join for free or upgrade and create sites very easily. Be sure to also join http://www.emailmeform.com ( again contact me for affiliate details ) so you can add a capture form to your squeeze page.
Another way to generate leads is to write articles if you can. You can do this in various forums or by submitting articles. This is something I truly enjoy. If you like writing why not have it make you money in your business.
Stay tuned for more options and details on how to generate your own leads in the upcoming post.
 ADAM
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#255 · Posted: 6 Apr 2009 01:10
Hi, I am not familiar with this system..
So far I have red through this forum about program.
It seems really good to start business with.
I hope people give more detail about system.
Keep it up, I wish everybody make good $$$^^
Happy day~^^
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#256 · Posted: 6 Apr 2009 14:39
How best to describe the Coastal Vacations business opportunity and product is something I think about all the time. As someone that does most of his advertising on the internet its important I do this correctly. Here is my stab at it.
The Coastal Vacations product can be described as like buying a membership from BJ's or Costco. You buy the membership and now get a ton of vacations at incredibly discounted prices. From a financial saving aspect it makes perfect sense. As a business owner you make from $1000- $9705 on each sale.
So now that you have a good product how do you translate it to a business. This is where the fun starts. As travel is a product that sells itself you have carte blanche on marketing Coastal. There are various successful groups with tools in place for you to use . They come with various price tags and on a whole are rather cost effective when you look at your profit margin.
My system is a combination of many of the systems on the market. I learned to create website in this WEB 2.0 era that I can put all of the info I need to market my program . In addition I generate my own leads using the internet to market. This is soemthing I learned from a leader in this industry. You see if you are resourseful and can take a bit of direction you can run this business with any budget. It was my plan B when I looked at the economy and job market and its going great for us as well as many other Coastal Directors in the various groups.
I suggest looking at the details and asking your questions after you have done some research. Then jump onboard. Id love to help you if I can so if you need to contact me and we can talk.
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#257 · Posted: 10 Apr 2009 09:16 · Edited by: DCollier
Over the years many have come and gone on this Coastal Forum
the ones left are the die hards. post after post by the same 2 people left. HINT , HINT......
Coastal has become a dud
just my experience after being sold a "genuine home based business"and attending seminars . spending over 15K , with NO results based on a company that had many renigade marketers with outlandish claims to grandeur.
There are better travel deals without spending money on a membership with lowlevel travel destinations.
These days it is very easy to get deals with out a member paying program. This renders Coastal members a tough sell over the phone (50 calls a day) and If you love rejection this is the place for you.
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#258 · Posted: 10 Apr 2009 14:37
Everyone has there own experience with different business. While some haven't had the success they wanted others have. In my opinion it comes down to adapting to the market and growing as a marketer.
When I first started in Coastal I was on the leadership of what was then one of the major groups. As a leader I was asked to perform various tasks. These tasks have helped me immensely in continuing to grow my business. As a leader we had to plan ahead for many different scenarios.
Here is how I adapted and used what I learned to keep my business healthy.
First I had to lower my advertising cost. In the beginning we bought leads from the various lead vendors. We at times spent over $500 a month on these leads. So this expense had to be cut. To do this I began to write on forums like this. You can call it article marketing. The leads I get have already read something about me and have a link to my website. Many have emailed or called me asking questions. Another thing I did was do a Google search for FREE LEADS and see what came about. I was able to find some great sources.
Another thing I did to grow and expand my horizons was begin to use a few different traffic exchanges. I've found a couple I like and created a page to capture leads for myself. I offered all the people that signed up free leads (as I had found the sources to do so). Now most of the people that signed up are already business owners but it created a great place for referrals and joint ventures.
Joint ventures are great with Coastal as you have an unlimited supply of complimentary vacations. Ill partner up with another business owner and let him use my vacations as an incentive for someone to buy his products. I get travel leads they sell more products. Good deal.
This brings me to another way we learned to adapt our business and lower our cost. In this day and time of technology it is easy to get a group of people together (whether in person, on the phone or on the internet) and present the Coastal Opportunity. I love this method as doing a home show is something that has made a few of the first home based businesses huge successes. We used to laugh at Amway years ago but now they have TV commercials in prime time as well as the owners own the Orlando Magic basketball team.
The days of banging out phone calls can be a thing of the past but I like the telephone. First off I don't feel rejection in this business. I have went on the vacations and got the great deals. I have made money. I know this works. So when I get on the phone I feel great. And actually as so many people are getting laid off I find more people receptive to at least looking.
This business isn't for everyone and I will say that many that get started fail. But I looked at it this way when we got started. The level one package is $1295 and gives you a bunch of discount cards that get you great deals on travel, 5 cruises and a bunch of bonus vacations. My wife had just paid $1000 for one cruise. So I did the math and said at the very least ill save money on the travel im going to do anyway. Think about it if Exxon said hey pay us $1295 and ill give you discounts on gas for the rest of your life. Most of us would jump on this deal. Imagine if they said sell this idea to others and make $1000 on that same sale. That's the business idea. It works and its simple.
I encourage new prospects to really take a look at this gem of a business. It not hard to market. You ask someone if they like vacation. 90% of the time they say yes so you ask them if they could go at discounts of up to 80% off of regular rates for the rest of their life for $1295 would they do it? You can say this or present it in many ways. Its all about being a good business person and using good business practices.
While many don't post on this forum as much as in the past (their used to be alot of infighting going on) many do read it. I get calls and emails all the time from people that found me here. So if you are looking at Coastal and want to get another opinion on it then contact me or any of the other directors on this from and get your questions answered. I wish you luck and success in all your ventures.
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#259 · Posted: 15 Apr 2009 15:13
Big News ....
I have sold The Coastal Closers to my U.S. Sales Manager.
After 8 years with Coastal and over 4 years owning the
call center, it was time to move forward with other things
that have called to Vickie and I.
Our best wishes to all ... !
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#260 · Posted: 20 Apr 2009 15:07
Has your business changed since you started? Mine definitely has. To keep up to date with the market it is important to adapt as time goes on. As I continue to grow in my understanding of how the internet works it became obvious to me that I had to use that knowledge to change the way I do business. Generating my own leads became the first priority in my adapted business policy.
There are many ways to generate your own leads. I find the best way is create relationships with other business owners. You can do this by offering products and tools that all business owners need. If you look at alot of the top marketers on the net you will notice that many of them are promoting systems that let you promote your own business. This is a good strategy. As you use their systems and they work you are more apt to do more business with these marketers. They have created a win-win relationship with you.
In addition think about it. We market travel which is a great product. As internet marketers all we need is the internet and a phone to run our business it stands to reason that we can travel and still run our business. Why wouldn't they want that travel at discounted prices? So market this idea to other business owners. Don't try so hard to make them become business builders but rather let them use the product. The ones that are keen business people will see the business applications and want to get started as they see the great potential.
The next way I changed the way I did business was to create my own websites. Replicated websites are great but don't brand me in any manner and aren't very friendly to search engines. I'd rather stand out than sit in the crowd. Also you can add more things to your own website so you can advertise more than one product. On your site you can promote your primary business as well as all the tools you need to run that business. I for one am a fan of blogger.com as it doesn't take alot of HTML knowledge to make a good site. Now I'm adept at HTML but not all my prospects or teammates will be so duplicate is easier with blogger.com for me.
I hope that the info that you are reading is helpful to Coastal directors trying to change things in their businesses. I will say that adapting has been the best thing I could do.
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