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matiasmommy
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#21 · Posted: 4 May 2007 23:13
and NO, the BOD doesn't endorse ANY groups save its own.. that is for both practical and marketing reasons...Never know when the wind might change, and why send business away? The BOD does their job, and very VERY well- I recognize that daily. Certainly, the BOD has proved themselves many times over. Why point the way towards another group that has improved upon the original wheel?
Jani Teeter
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goldmills
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#22 · Posted: 5 May 2007 10:38
Jani
if you talked with the BOD from Altlanta, that BOD always tells people that certain people and certain systems are always being investigated and makes it looks like there are problems with people and call centers in Coastal.
If it is who I think it is, I would not even worry about it. Al knows who we are, and loves the fact that Hoyt buys packages by the case load each week.
Jeff
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#23 · Posted: 5 May 2007 15:12
Hi Jeff..
So are you saying there is 2 BOD's?? That is something I had not heard of before. I thought they were all around the US?? What functions does each one have?
But I don't get it.. why would they say something like that then, exactly? If Al is happy with everything, why would the board be spreading rumours like that which would, in turn hurt the business in general and Al specifically?
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Jani Teeter
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CoastalToday
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#24 · Posted: 5 May 2007 15:54
Hi Jani,
There's only one BOD. Jeff is referring to one particular member of the BOD.
Why would that member do that? Because - as mentioned in several other posts by Jeff Mills and Maria Porter - the members of the BOD are human and are also Directors just like us, who want to gain sales.
So, if a member of the BOD is called by someone who is checking out one of the Centers, the temptation to make the Centers seem on shaky ground is too much to resist. After all, they're on the BOD, who wouldn't believe them?
Except that misleading a Coastal prospect is the wrong thing to do. Unfortunately, it does happen and quite frequently - not just with the centers, but by badmouthing other Directors as well.
In fact, I just had an individual call one of the members of the BOD to check out Coastal and that Board Member blatantly tried to recruit him away from me. This was despite the fact that he stated he was already working with someone and just wanted to check out Coastal's history.Not very ethical if you ask me.
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#25 · Posted: 6 May 2007 08:20
Anyone here with CoastalClosers Group?
Terri
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roger
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#26 · Posted: 6 May 2007 11:40 · Edited by: roger
Quoting: matiasmommy But I don't get it.. why would they say something like that then, exactly? If Al is happy with everything, why would the board be spreading rumours like that which would, in turn hurt the business in general and Al specifically?
It's no different from the rumored infighting and backstabbing going on at the CSG, this can also be destructive. You know as well as I Jani that sometimes, right or wrong, all is fair in love and war.
Quoting: CoastalToday that Board Member blatantly tried to recruit him away from me. This was despite the fact that he stated he was already working with someone and just wanted to check out Coastal's history.
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#27 · Posted: 6 May 2007 12:37
Quoting: roger It's no different from the rumored infighting and backstabbing going on at the CSG, this can also be destructive. You know as well as I Jani that sometimes, right or wrong, all is fair in love and war.
Really? I hadn't heard, why am I always the last to know?
Roger do tell....
Terri
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#28 · Posted: 7 May 2007 07:09
I know the subject has been brought up but I think it's wise to stay out of politics in this forum!
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matiasmommy
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#29 · Posted: 7 May 2007 08:16
hmmm
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#30 · Posted: 7 May 2007 08:38
opps! Glad to hear there is only one Board. My head was spinning there for a bit!! haha! I was going through my notes trying to figure that out.
I haven't heard of backstabbing and infighting in the CSG either, to be honest. Doesn't seem to make much sense with the group model or philosophy. Then again, what can you do with other peoples children. Terri, you aren't always the last to know! I have no idea what Roger is talking about either!
I would think that perhaps as the call centre models are not exactly within the BOD guidelines might explain BOD members behavior. I wasn't there, so I can't comment as to what exactly was said and how. But it does make total sense to me that the BOD can't rightly promote other groups, call centres or not. As for lambasting other directors- well truth be told no directors are perfect and some are a bit more then questionable. Roger, you are right- stay out of the rumour mill and only talk about facts you can VERIFY or your personal experiences.
Each to his own, I suppose.. but as to "all is fair in love and war" I don't at all subscribe to that philosophy. Pleanty enough business to go round, I don't see that it is necessary to cheat or play games. Everyone brings something to the table, and if you have to steal away business, it makes me wonder how focused you really are on HELPING others and not just your bottom line. That, to me is the real point and beauty of this business. Bottom line is, not every director is right for everyone! If someone is already happy with a director they choose, really- it should not make a difference what ANYONE says, BOD member or not anyhow. Its that relationship that is the glue and the foundation of success- and trust, respect for and belief in your director is absolutely critical.
It still doesn't really make sense to me... and yes, I do believe what the BOD members are saying to me. Seems to me, they are ON the board because of their ability, commitment to the business and ethics. If one can't believe what they are saying, what is the point of having a board in the first place that regulates, supports, promotes and monitors our business?? If there are board members who are not holding up those values, me thinks they should be voted off pronto!
Keep it clean, take the high road. Otherwise we ALL will suffer at the day's end!
Just MHO...
Jani Teeter
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#31 · Posted: 7 May 2007 09:11
It's wise to keep politics out of this forum and continue it's purpose which is to help people Jani!
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#32 · Posted: 12 May 2007 08:15
Jani you exemplify, through your posts, that which Coastal ought to strive to be: straight, caring, excellence in your work, etc. and I salute you.
Coastal's future depends on those qualities.
The fact that it's open to all, the good and the dubious is OK, we all deserve a chance.
But unless the members, themselves, keep their work to the high standars that a solid and successful group has to adhere... well, you all know what'll happen in time.
Coastal success depends entirely on its members good working ethics more so than on what it sells. There have been many others with cheaper and perhaps better products...but where are they now?
Coastal Board of Directors is the only body that the members have to back them up, to keep Coastal going, to make changes for the benefit of all, they invest their time, energy, their good will, etc. ..
The idea of organize Coastal the way it is, is brilliant. Members should be happy to be a part of such an organization. They (BOD), like all members, are not perfect.
Members have to be careful not to stain the good name of this great deal. It is a pretty good thing going on here. This laissez- faire should be something to make the organization better and better in every way. Members are talented and free to use that acumen, however in a positive way.
The "All is fair in love and war" has been used as an excuse, to commit unfair and malicious acts (just look at today's or yesterda's, etc. papers).
I, like any member am not "Holier Than Thou" but in the case of Coastal I dare to summit a very down to earth and practical saying: "DON'T ROCK THE BOAT"...THERE IS A GOOD THING GOING ON HERE!...
Bless all!
Joe
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#33 · Posted: 12 May 2007 13:03 · Edited by: roger
You're right Joe as members we are not perfect, we can all make errors in judgement and we live by our actions. There have been previous posts made by some � and defended by others - who unnecessarily put down other groups which we all know isn't right but it is a reality and it is regrettable to know it will likely happen again. It's a deficiency in human nature.
Your connection with my statement of "All is fair in love and war" and me committing unfair and malicious acts is presumptuous at best and I resent your offensive comments. After making your statement then concluding your post with "Bless all" reflects a holier than thou attitude, something you claim you do not have. As you say, we are not perfect.
As you may be aware, I have been with Coastal for almost a year full time and there are enough Directors and team members in this forum alone who will attest to my giving nature when I have nothing to gain from helping them.
I get many calls from people, including you Joe, who are looking into the Coastal opportunity. I don't shower prospects with unfair, malicious or ridiculous claims nor do I try to manipulate them into joining. It's in our best interests to keep our own, and the Association's, integrity intact. I will tell it like it is and that is with some consistent effort you can make a great living with Coastal which I believe to be the best home business out there.
While we all have a right to post our opinions it concerns me when new members assume too much, too quickly. Having said this, if you have just joined Coastal, welcome aboard. I know you have had success in a previous life Joe so I'm sure that will continue.
Roger
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#34 · Posted: 12 May 2007 13:49
Hi Roger,
I don't think Joe was referring to you at all - I believe he was saying that the statement "All is fair..." has been used in many instances *outside of Coastal* to justify bad behavior. That's why he mentioned the newspapers.
We all know that you're one of the most pleasant and helpful members of the forum, Roger!
Tonya
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#35 · Posted: 12 May 2007 16:21
Whoa Roger, Whoa!...hold your horses there and re-read my previous post my friend!
You have been, and still are, a writer. Any reader can misconstrue as you know,any piece. Please re-read so that we can be friends again!
And thanks for your good wishes.
Joe.
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#36 · Posted: 12 May 2007 16:21
If that's the case very well then, thanks Tonya. I've read your posts you're quite helpful too.
Roger
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#37 · Posted: 12 May 2007 19:51
Hi Joe,
I did as you suggested and re-read your post and I have to admit I come to the same conclusion but it doesn't matter 'cause it's not worth anymore energy, let's be friends.
Roger
NB - isn't it interesting we made our last posts at exactly the same time??
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#38 · Posted: 13 May 2007 07:21
Quoting: joesosa Jani you exemplify, through your posts, that which Coastal ought to strive to be: straight, caring, excellence in your work, etc. and I salute you. Coastal's future depends on those qualities
Thank-you Joe. You did not have to do that, and I appreciate it very much.
I completely agree with you- it is best to be mindful of not only our future but the long term best interests of ALL concerned. You are bang on- its a GREAT deal- not only amazing sales on travel but a life changing opportunity, literally- in SO many ways!
I'm not the only one here who can honestly say they have been blessed. I'm grateful for what every good intended person here contributes to the community of the whole.
Happy Mothers Day Everyone!
Jani Teeter
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#39 · Posted: 13 May 2007 17:00 · Edited by: luvtravel
Quoting: roger As you may be aware, I have been with Coastal for almost a year full time and there are enough Directors and team members in this forum alone who will attest to my giving nature when I have nothing to gain from helping them.
I will definitely attest to that!!
Roger is fantastic, not a selfish person, he doesn't seek publicity for his good acts.
Thanks Roger for being a part of this forum, and part of Coastal, he is the kind of people we welcome in the Coastal family!!
(hope I didn't embarass you Roger but I speak the truth)
Terri
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#40 · Posted: 15 May 2007 09:26 · Edited by: roger
Hi Terri,
You forgot to mention my Congressional medal of honor I received in '93 for my brave work in the Galapogos Islands. How come you didn't say anything about my heroic feats during the NASA expedition to Mars? That's okay we won't talk about that......thanks for the nice words, you sure you and my mum aren't related? Um, that's not to say you are the same age as my mum, ok I'll shut up now.
Roger
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