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changemylife
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# Posted: 2 Nov 2007 22:31
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Greetings Internet Gurus!
I am trying to get a true feel for how effective FREE advertising has been for your business.
Please be honest...
Any dishonesty will skew the results and mislead readers.
Essential Question: What percentage of your advertising budget is FREE?
I make $9,000 a week and FREE forms of advertising makes up about 70% of my advertising budget.
My 30% paid advertising ratio consists of Traffic Generators (10%), Leads (10%) and Solo E-Zines Ads (10%).
As you see, pay-per-click (PPC) advertising is not on my list. Word to the wise, be very careful when adding PPC advertising to your income arsenal. You could end up $30,000 in DEBT!
Thanks In Advance!
"You can be the person of your dream!" - God Bless
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# Posted: 3 Nov 2007 08:17 · Edited by: Newbie Shield
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Quoting: changemylife Greetings Internet Gurus! I am trying to get a true feel for how effective FREE advertising has been for your business. Please be honest... Any dishonesty will skew the results and mislead readers. Essential Question: What percentage of your advertising budget is FREE? I make $9,000 a week and FREE forms of advertising makes up about 70% of my advertising budget. My 30% paid advertising ratio consists of Traffic Generators (10%), Leads (10%) and Solo E-Zines Ads (10%). As you see, pay-per-click (PPC) advertising is not on my list. Word to the wise, be very careful when adding PPC advertising to your income arsenal. You could end up $30,000 in DEBT! Thanks In Advance! "You can be the person of your dream!" - God Bless
$9,000 a week, eh? That's an impressive claim. So you make almost a $400,000 a year?
Okay, aside from your impressive claim, I don't spend much on advertising. Most of my advertising is free. I'd say that over 90% of it is free advertising.
If you don't mind my asking, how much daily or monthly traffic do you average? Do you have more than one site?
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Success100
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2007 11:46
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Sheesh! $9,000 dollars a week? Please enlighten us with how you are doing so. In response to your post, the vast majority of my advertising is free, i.e. blogging, article submittal, etc. I have yet to try paid methods yet because the ways I use to advertise work just fine. Good luck to you!
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getagrip
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2007 15:31
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If you "really" made $9,000 a week, I doubt if you'd be even bother to post in this forum to recruit new members...
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pcwork
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# Posted: 5 Nov 2007 19:53
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Most of my advertising is free. What product or service do you sell?
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changemylife
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2007 12:09
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Hello GetAGrip,
I deal with naysayer all day! Go to my website and see for yourself. I do not do screen shots and other things that can be altered.
http://www.howifiredmyboss.net
By the way, the reason I can make $6,000 to $9,000 a week is because I do things that people don't. When you are sleeping I am marketing, building my list.
Here is a quote from an unknown source, "You have to do the things that people won't to have the things that people don't!" - Unknown
I manage roughly 7,000 to 8,000 leads DAILY! Over 250,000 leads per month. If you can't believe $9,000 a week you certainly can't believe what other people are making on my team.
By the way, I am far from the top earner! I am not even close!
If I may take a moment to bring your attention back to the Essential Question: What percentage of your advertising budget is FREE?
Where do I post:
Free Advertising - Craig's List (1000 post per day), Backpage.com (Paid repost Top Sponsor Ads), Gumtree (Diamond in the rough), AdlandPro (My secret weapon, the trick here is how you post. You must post on certain days.) and TrafficSwarm (Excellent traffic generator!)
Paid Advertising- Sorry guys that info is for paid team member only!
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maricel
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2007 13:19
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Hi,
Pretty impressive stats!, whether or not poeple believe you is not really an issue, you alone know the truth. What does interest me is why you are so against ppc. I know that there are many books claiming to beat the system but for me google is tops, where else can you create 20 differant ads using whatever keyword combination that you can think of and test them. All you need to do is set a modest budget of say $20 - $30 per month, the value is in studying your stats in the back office. I run google for my GRN business and have ad variations at an upper limit of approx 15c per click. Over time you can see how many clicks you get per impressions and this gives you a very good idea of which wording in your ads hits the spot. Keep refining the ads with slightly differant variations and in the end you get to the point where you know which lines work, the beauty is that you have to be creative because of the charactar number constraints. Once refined the successful wording can form the basis of your other advertising free or paid. $30 a month supplies world class market research.
BTW I do not have shares in Google 
Maricel
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2bwahm
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# Posted: 11 Nov 2007 19:18
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Just started with Craigslist thanks to all of you!
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changemylife
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# Posted: 11 Nov 2007 22:47
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Hi 2bwahm,
Congrats on your decision to jump in!
Here is a nugget.....
When posting to craigslist you must be creative. There must be something that separates your ads from the rest of the boring ads.
Here is an example:
If I am posting to New York or New Jersey my ad title may say something like: Bada Bing I Made $9,000 Last Week!
Do not use this ad title! WHY? If everyone uses the same ad title it will be FLAGGED and REMOVED!
This is just an example!
I take it to the next level and show my team members how to dominate Craigslist and post 1000 ads daily!
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mikepressnell
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2007 20:23
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OK, I know that my post has nothing to do with advertising...but then again, maybe it does.
What I want to know is why do people list works like free, money, etc. like this FRE*E and mon.ey? Why the extra characters? I think I know why, but I don't want to show my ignorance by being wrong.
Thanks,
Mike
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changemylife
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2007 21:31 · Edited by: changemylife
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Hello Mike Pressnell,
This is a really good question. Once you learn this concept you can beat (get through) any SPAM filter.
Question: Why do Internet Marketers add additional characters to certain words like free and money?
Answer: All Internet Service Providers (ISP) to include corporate environments utilize a SMTP gateway with SPAM filtering. There are many types of SPAM filters, but what you need to know is how they flag an email as SPAM or a regular email.
The two primary ways SPAM filters flag emails are by running the email against a database or from heuristic learning.
SPAM databases are compiled from words or phrases that are generally found in most unsolicited emails. Some words are FREE, MONEY, GET RICH, MAKE MONEY, MAKE MONEY NOW etc.
Heuristic SPAM filters are learning SPAM filters. They flag emails based on what is deemed as normal and usual email behavior.
Most ISP and corporate environments utilize a SPAM database, because heuristic SPAM filters are known to log false positives. A false positive is a legit email that was flagged as SPAM.
Now... if most SPAM databases look for key words like FREE and MONEY. All I have to do is add an additional character like a ( . ) or a ( * ) and I have a whole new word that is not likely to be flagged by the SPAM filter. Here is an example: FREE ----> FRE*E or MONEY ----> M0N3Y.
I use this concept to ensure delivery of 98% of my emails during an email campaign.
I hope this helps!
Good Luck!
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SQ625
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2007 21:43
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My ratio averages about 50% free/50% paid. People shouldn't hesitate to use PPC, but you really should take some type of adwords course so that you know what you're doing (or you could end up wasting a lot of advertising money).
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netprosperity
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# Posted: 13 Nov 2007 13:17
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Great believer in free advertising approx 85% of my business comes from free advertising using a mixture of blogs, article submission and social networking
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mikepressnell
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# Posted: 16 Nov 2007 23:30
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Muchas Gracia, changemylife.
Now that explains why a lot of my legal emails have not been seen by my contacts.
I really do appreciate the info.
Mike Pressnell
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mycats
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# Posted: 27 Nov 2007 13:51
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I use mostly free advertising, article submission, social networking, exchanges, credit based safelist, just looking at craigslist now.
Thank you changemylife for that info on spam filters, never understood why I got emails with characters in the words.
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SovereignWealth
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# Posted: 27 Nov 2007 14:04
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Quoting: changemylife Hello Mike Pressnell, This is a really good question. Once you learn this concept you can beat (get through) any SPAM filter. Question: Why do Internet Marketers add additional characters to certain words like free and money? Answer: All Internet Service Providers (ISP) to include corporate environments utilize a SMTP gateway with SPAM filtering. There are many types of SPAM filters, but what you need to know is how they flag an email as SPAM or a regular email. The two primary ways SPAM filters flag emails are by running the email against a database or from heuristic learning. SPAM databases are compiled from words or phrases that are generally found in most unsolicited emails. Some words are FREE, MONEY, GET RICH, MAKE MONEY, MAKE MONEY NOW etc. Heuristic SPAM filters are learning SPAM filters. They flag emails based on what is deemed as normal and usual email behavior. Most ISP and corporate environments utilize a SPAM database, because heuristic SPAM filters are known to log false positives. A false positive is a legit email that was flagged as SPAM. Now... if most SPAM databases look for key words like FREE and MONEY. All I have to do is add an additional character like a ( . ) or a ( * ) and I have a whole new word that is not likely to be flagged by the SPAM filter. Here is an example: FREE ----> FRE*E or MONEY ----> M0N3Y. I use this concept to ensure delivery of 98% of my emails during an email campaign. I hope this helps! Good Luck!
Great response to Mikes question!
This is why I like these forums: helpful, and friendly community.
Michael
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aplina
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# Posted: 27 Nov 2007 14:33
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$9000. a week. on free adversting!
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changemylife
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 12:34
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Aplina,
All my sales did not come from free advertising. It was the result of paid advertising, free advertising and me teaching my team how to do what I do. Although many of their initial sales do come from free forms of advertising.
I liken free advertising to fishing. You may know how to fish, but do you know where to fish? Many Internet Marketers are casting their lines in the wrong place.
Craig's List is a excellent free site. Although, if you do not know where and how to post on Craig's List it will not yield the desired results.
Right before the Thanksgiving holiday I sat down and posted ads for a hour or so on Craig's List. I was able to generate 12 optins in that small amount of time and it did not cost me anything, nothing but my time.
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southbank63
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 16:44
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Free Free Free.. refuse to pay for anything
Maybe bit more effort... but I like the fact that I am not paying out... although I do accept that to get things moving a bit faster.. may need to look into some paid ads.. ( or prune juice maybe? )
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changemylife
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 17:02
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MyCats,
You are on it! Link Exchanges are an excellent way to increase your position in the organic searches of the Search Engines.
I am an avid user of Craig's List. If you are just getting started I recommend you take it slow. Over the last couple of months Craig's List has really stepped up their SPAM ad filtering.
Many people have become extremely frustrated because their ads are getting flagged and removed. When you are more familiar with Craig's List I would encourage you step up to an ad poster to get more ads out there.
In the mean time take it slow, monitor your ads and if they are flagged record what you did and don't did it again
One last thing, you should never post your primary domain to Craig's List. You should always use subdomains or PURLS to redirect to your primary domain. You do not want Craig's List to block your domain name.
Example: 123money.com -------- > yourdomainname.com
If you have a GoDaddy account you can easily create subdomains. Also, you can create PURLS just as easy!
Go here: http://purl.oclc.org/
-God Bless
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changemylife
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# Posted: 28 Nov 2007 17:08
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SouthBank63,
If free is working for you, do what works. My advertising strategy is very straight forward when people join my team. I tell them to use free advertising until they get there qualifying sales.
Once they are in profit; take half of their initial earnings and put it in their pocket and the other half back into advertising. This immediately kicks their sales into over-drive!
Something to consider...
-God Bless
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stacy
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 17:10
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Changedmylife,
You may not want to share this info with me, but I am curious how you post multiple ads on Craig's List? I am just getting started, but I though their policy states that you cannot post in multiple categories or multiple areas. Do you use 1000 different email addresses when advertising? Just curious how you get around that. I've posted an ad with each of my websites, but no traffic yet.
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changemylife
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 20:27
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Hi Stacy!
Unfortunately, that info is what I teach my team. Although I will say posting through the Craig's List web interface is not it. You can do it; but it is not an effective use of your time.
Also, the web interface limits your posting flexibility.
Craig's List has tried many things to prevent people from posting in multiple cities. Once they change one thing; we figure out a way around it. Free forms of advertising are great. I encourage people to use a combination of free and paid. What is your line of business? You cannot advertise here, but you can tell me the industry.
The most important thing to remember, "Cast your hook in active waters?" What do I mean?" Lets say, you have a travel business and am fishing for travel clients or new team members. You would not post a travel ad in an automotive forum.
This dramatically decreases your chances of a sale, because the ad does not fit. You get where I am going.
Here is a gold nugget: If you generate at least 40 to 50 optins a day! You will earn a minium of 6 figures a year. I do not care if you market lotions, potions, vitamins or travel. Internet marketing is all about traffic and relationships. To build the relationships you must have the traffic.
There is a direct parallel between optins and your bank account.
GO BIG or GO HOME!
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wendykrick
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# Posted: 22 Jan 2008 14:12
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100% of my budget is free. I do social networking sites, blogs and articles.
~Wendy
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formvals
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2008 15:48
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Have tried many forms of free advertising without much luck, would be interested in which ones you have had success with. Have a great website, but need marketing help.
Thanks
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2008 18:27
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I love free advertising. There is nothing to lose at all. The internet has made it possible to do alot of things we couldnt in the past and it has changed the way people market. I see forums such as this as a great way to advertise. I get many people that contact me for the content I place here.
Forums are loved by the search engines. If you do a google search for Adam Frederick + Coastal Vacations or A-Team + Coastal Vacations many of my post on this very forum come up. What even better is you get to meet and network with a large group of people. Another forum I use alot is Ryze.
It also helps to have something free to offer. People will join a free program or download a free product and thats a great way to build a list. People buy from people they like so give good advice and add content to the forums.
Writing articles is a great way to advertise for free. Being an expert will bring you leads. In addition I place ads everywhere I can for free. Do a google search to find some.
Now if you are looking to advertise be sure to have a good signature line. I always click on peoples links before I contact them. I always want to know what they are involved in so we have something to talk about when I contact them. If they have a good site it might be something ill join.
Take a look at my links and give me your feedback.
Adam Frederick
Coastal Level III Director
Founder of A-Team CV FREE Apprentice Program
302 327 6263
[email protected]
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# Posted: 18 Apr 2008 13:35
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I have done very well with Viral ads also free
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2009 01:28 · Edited by: yourgain2
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Yes Free advertising is good, but I am sick to death of my inbox's being full then spending hours clicking on ads just to earn credits to be able to mail to the same kind of person on the otherside of the computer!!! Doesn't everyone agree? Very frustrating!!!
Found another one today though, that is FREE advertsing and seems to be living up to it's hype. Will keep you posted
Happy to let any of you know about it out there
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# Posted: 16 Apr 2009 14:33
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I AM NEW AND NOT SURE HOW TO EVEN BEGN TO ADVERTISE THE OFFERS i am able to provide NOT VERY BUSINESS MINDED BUT I AM very willing to learn due to im TIRED OF DAILY GRIND OF GOING IN TO WORK TO DO WHAT OTHERS WANT SO THEY CAN GET THE PROFITS I BRING IN AND I GET THE MINIMUM THEY THINK I DESERVE can any one help show me the way
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# Posted: 16 Apr 2009 17:34
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Always be careful before purchase any programs
Hi, I have been internet business for a while.
For several years, many of internet business programs,and scams
were established, and spread out through internet.
Be sure, most of programs will make money to seller of programs,
not you or buyer!
You can always go to forums and free boards, and ask first before
you purchase them even though those are reliable programs and,
you really want~
Thank you
Good luck to all of you~
Happy day~^^
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