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Gregory
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 12:31
The bashers and negative posters on this site DO NOT need to be tolerated. Much like Craigslist does with unallowed posts just delete them. Once we (the ASD members) continue to delete delete delete their posts they will go away and give up. If they wish to go start their own negative ASD forum more power to them. My suggestion is to have multiple moderators that will continuosly delete these posts. Bottom line is we make this forum,,,,,,, POSITIVE and nothing else. If you do not like...go away!!!!!
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smallmiracle
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 13:34
YIPPEE!!!!!!
YOU'VE MADE OUR DAY!!!!
THANK YOUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!
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Newbie Shield
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 14:48
getagrip: Have you thought about putting something else up for your avatar? No offense, but its not exactly the most pleasant thing to look at...
I request the same, thanx.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 14:55
Newbie Shield: I request the same, thanx.
Yoda looks better than the Eye??
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opendomain
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 15:49
I must admit I had mixed feelings about this ASD forum, if only because I started to get the impression it was becoming a cheerleading forum for ASD and wasn't really providing a good sense of what ASD was about, as both bashers and supporters often boiled threads down to bickering...BUT I must approve of the forum staying open for two reasons.
1. It has remained civil and in the spirit of fairness about 80% of the information I'm sure has been helpful to someone or people would have stopped coming to it.
2. Anything that is going to draw traffic to WAHF is a good thing.
I will say that the only qualm that does remain is that because of the amount of different posts in a day many of the posts that would be visited upon in the top 25, have of late, been ASD related and serve no function other than to say "ASD is Awesome" in some sense or another, and IMHO does not truly reflect the variety of programs represented in WAHF nor the vast resource that WAHF can truly be to the public in general when researching topics or seeking advice. I would ask the as the moderator Iggy you please use sound judgment in moving cheerleading threads into an "ASD is awesome" thread to limit the flooding of the top 25 board.
I mean if anyone wanted to, me included, they could tell their downline to simply flood a forum with pro posts or questions in order to keep their topic "hot". This is not something I have done (though it would be profitable for me) simply because it serves no one's purposes but my own. I have seen it done though and nothing annoys me more.
Best of luck to all you ASDers
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freebird658
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 17:45
I know I'm late getting in on this discussion, but I want to say thanks to Vishel for keeping this forum open. There has been some really good discussions here, both positive and negative but that is what keeps it interesting and informative and it does help many to find the answers they need. I think most people can distinguish what is truth and what is opinion but still can get what they came here to find to either make a decision or form their own opinion.
Also choosing Iggy as the mod was an excellent choice! I enjoy the information he shares and how he can remain unbiased at the same time. Not to mention the humor he brings along with him at times.
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Newbie Shield
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 18:57
iggyigette: Yoda looks better than the Eye??
Iggy: Yoda's nostril hair looks better than that eye 
Thanx for taking the avatar down.
Open: I agree, it has been little more than an aggressive advertising and recruiting campaign. I've seen it happen like this many times before with other programs on various forums.
It's disgusting and I agree that any of us could have set up a group to invade a forum as a gang and done the same for the sake of profit. But that's been one line we've had the courtesy and common sense not to cross.
I second the notion that seeing every other post in the top 25 as an ASD entry is getting old. Furthermore, it drowns out non ASD posts.
That's all for now.
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Caterina
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 22:00
Hey, NewbieShield and Opendomain.....you guys DO know that Vishal created this forum exclusively FOR ASD.......yes? That's why that's all you see on this particular page - posts about ASD.....it isn't a bunch of people flooding the forum to pump one program.....it's a bunch of people IN ASD (well, for the most part), discussing it.....
Or did I misunderstand your comments?
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EnjoyingItAll
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 22:18
First of all THANK YOU for keeping the forum open. Lovely info given here.
Second - Congrats to you Iggy for being the Master of All!! Keep us all informed.
No steak for me, thank you!
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Newbie Shield
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 22:21
Hi Caterina,
We understand how this forum works and we know why the ASD folder was created.
Yes, you did misunderstand the comments, but that's okay.
Among other things, we were referring to the home page where the latest 25 discussions (or so) reside and get cycled down as they are temporarily replaced by newer discussions. It it titled "Latest Discussions". Just below it there is a link to view the last 100 Discussions. That link is near the bottom of the page.
Is there anything else you'd like to know about this forum?
I disagree about your opinion regarding whether or not forum flooding is occurring.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 23:14
I dont think when people post of the ASD forum here that they really think about posting stats.
People just become involved in it and come here because it is a comfortable place to hold a discussion.
Jenny
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Caterina
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 23:55 � Edited by: Caterina
Newbie Shield: Hi Caterina, We understand how this forum works and we know why the ASD folder was created. Yes, you did misunderstand the comments, but that's okay. Among other things, we were referring to the home page where the latest 25 discussions (or so) reside and get cycled down as they are temporarily replaced by newer discussions. It it titled "Latest Discussions". Just below it there is a link to view the last 100 Discussions. That link is near the bottom of the page. Is there anything else you'd like to know about this forum? I disagree about your opinion regarding whether or not forum flooding is occurring. ~Newbie Shield~
AlllllllllRIGHTIE, then.......understood that I misunderstood.....
I went and looked at the home page (something I've never done thoroughly) and clearly see, now, what you're talking about....but I can't see that that's anyone's "fault" who posts in this forum.....hell, I didn't even KNOW these posts show up on the home page....I can see where that would be annoying to someone wanting to look at ALL the options out there.....is it possible to have our own subheading, I wonder?
I'm not saying devious things such as "flooding" don't happen......but it sure seems to me like most of the people who participate here are doing the same thing I am....learning, teaching, exchanging, understanding, fretting, complaining, whatever.....I haven't seen ANY useless posts......including Iggy's tequila-laced thoughts (because I see THEM as directly relating to how one approaches a program like ASD).....
Anyhow - didn't mean to offend you.....
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040107
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# Posted: 29 Jul 2008 00:29
Newbie Shield,
I think your concern about the "recent discussions" feature mainly
affects the older members here who know how this forum works and
are aware of such. Otherwise, ASD members probably view this site
as mainly a ASD site because of the dominance of its presence on the
top 25 recent discussions. That's why they weren't aware of it.
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getagrip
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# Posted: 29 Jul 2008 00:52
Gregory: The bashers and negative posters on this site DO NOT need to be tolerated. Much like Craigslist does with unallowed posts just delete them. Once we (the ASD members) continue to delete delete delete their posts they will go away and give up. If they wish to go start their own negative ASD forum more power to them. My suggestion is to have multiple moderators that will continuosly delete these posts. Bottom line is we make this forum,,,,,,, POSITIVE and nothing else. If you do not like...go away!!!!!
I think people should be allowed to post their opinions - positive or negative. It is the only way you are going to get an unbiased discussion going.
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Vishal P. Rao
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# Posted: 29 Jul 2008 01:29
Gregory: The bashers and negative posters on this site DO NOT need to be tolerated. Much like Craigslist does with unallowed posts just delete them. Once we (the ASD members) continue to delete delete delete their posts they will go away and give up. If they wish to go start their own negative ASD forum more power to them. My suggestion is to have multiple moderators that will continuosly delete these posts. Bottom line is we make this forum,,,,,,, POSITIVE and nothing else. If you do not like...go away!!!!!
How can you expect to have only positive posts? If you believe in the business you are in, you shouldn't be bit worried about these posts. In fact it should give you more opportunity to prove yourself. Forums are not made by the way you are suggesting.
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Vishal P. Rao
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# Posted: 29 Jul 2008 01:46
I wish I was not an forum owner  Seriously, I wouldn't have imagined it would be so tough dealing with issues like this!
Now that I have let ASD forum to be as it is, I have to make an exception though. I'll be limiting posts from ASD forum being showing up on the main page. This will not effect the functionality of the forum in any way as such.
I know many may perceive this a step-motherly treatment but please try to understand my situation. I have to listen to all my members.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 29 Jul 2008 07:58
Sounds fair enough to me!
We can be found if anyone looks for ASD or AdSurfDaily
I agree with you about leaving discussion open BUT I dont believe any responsible forum owner should allow continuous abusive posts especially when the back office shows clearly that that poster has joined specifically for that reason and is posting on no other forum.
That applies to any business, not just to ASD. But I guess you are on top of that one anyway. It is unusual however that the attacks on ASD on the various internet marketing forums have been exceptionally virulent and all seem to come from similar sources!
The rest of the people who are genuinly looking for answers dont cause any problems.
Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown lol
(Henry IV Part II. W Shakespeare)
Dont worry - you are appreciated by us all here.
Jenny
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# Posted: 29 Jul 2008 10:14
Caterina: AlllllllllRIGHTIE, then.......understood that I misunderstood..... I went and looked at the home page (something I've never done thoroughly) and clearly see, now, what you're talking about....but I can't see that that's anyone's "fault" who posts in this forum.....hell, I didn't even KNOW these posts show up on the home page....I can see where that would be annoying to someone wanting to look at ALL the options out there.....is it possible to have our own subheading, I wonder? I'm not saying devious things such as "flooding" don't happen......but it sure seems to me like most of the people who participate here are doing the same thing I am....learning, teaching, exchanging, understanding, fretting, complaining, whatever.....I haven't seen ANY useless posts......including Iggy's tequila-laced thoughts (because I see THEM as directly relating to how one approaches a program like ASD)..... Anyhow - didn't mean to offend you.....
Caterina: No offense taken. I agree with you that several ASD folks are genuinely interested in learning. However, it seems that at least a small handful of ASD folks did in fact come here as a group with the express purpose of hyping up ASD. I'm not the only one that recognized this and those who have consider it a foul tactic.
In any case, one of my main concerns is that the massive number of ASD posts (many of which seem to be artificial hype) was unnecessarily drowning out non ASD posts in the "Latest Discussions" area.
Vishal came up with an excellent resolution - keeping the ASD posts out of the Latest Discussions area. I am sure that the regulars - including myself - will find a lot of relief with this solution.
I'm glad that you understand what I meant. The situation is now significantly improved.
Vishal: Thanx a lot for removing the ASD posts from the Latest Discussions area. That is a big help.
Alasycia: I agree that abusive posts shouldn't be allowed. Try to understand that the aggressive and overwhelming nature of the ASD presence on this forum is also percieved as abusive.
Is there a chance that you and the other ASD folks might tone down the hype and focus more on informing those who ask questions? Believing in a program and getting excited about it is normal. But when the hype side of it receives too much focus, it can really disrupt an atmosphere that was previously well balanced.
Now that everyone knows how great you ASD folks feel the biz op is, perhaps you could focus more on significantly contributing to the general community by replacing some of the hype with answering questions.
Does that sound reasonable?
Thanx for your consideration,
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mrich87
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# Posted: 29 Jul 2008 13:05
Thank you!
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logicalusa
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# Posted: 29 Jul 2008 13:55
getagrip: I think people should be allowed to post their opinions - positive or negative. It is the only way you are going to get an unbiased discussion going.
That's what forums are for. However Forums shouldn't be for posting falsehoods and lies either. That is a disservice to everyone involved and brings nothing to the discussion.
There are people here with an anti-ASD agenda which is clear for all to see. They're the same people doing the exact same thing on other forums. A very small group of sad people with a lot of time on their hands.
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LauraLicata
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# Posted: 30 Jul 2008 18:17
Very nice post Newbie Shield! You are a class act and your Squidoo lens is one of the best and most informative I have seen.
I keep going back to learn more!
Take care,
Laura
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# Posted: 30 Jul 2008 18:47
LauraLicata: Very nice post Newbie Shield! You are a class act and your Squidoo lens is one of the best and most informative I have seen. I keep going back to learn more! Take care, Laura
Hi Laura,
Thank you for the compliments. I'm glad that you find my lens to be helpful.
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edenmarie
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# Posted: 31 Jul 2008 15:22
Please Please dont! i found this forum while investigating ASD and found it to be very balanced. It was a really valuable tool for me as someone not affiliated with ASD.
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cory
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2008 10:37 � Edited by: cory
There are some asd forum I've search from google but this one for me has the best set up because I can see all the topics in one page and click whatever topic i want to read. sO THANKS FOR NOT CLOSING IT. But frankly speaking, others who talks about steak and etc. , please topics like these, just mail it to their rspective PM.
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Vaussie
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2008 14:16
So when I got home late last night and went straight to my ASD site, and saw the message... I IMMEDIATELY went to this forum... of which I always go directly to the ASD section. But when I couldn't get in here... I panicked a little!
This is the place that gives me patience, allows me to express concerns and/or allows me to encourage others!!
The people in this forum are as much a part of my ASD Family as those who are above and below me!!
I was very much relieved to find this site up and running today and to have the links to the conference calls that I had missed!!
Thanks Vishal for continuing to give us this medium to keep informed - particularly given the current situation with our much loved company!!
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luvtravel
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# Posted: 3 Aug 2008 18:38
Vishal, I'm beginning to wonder if maybe this thread should have been shut down
With all the rumors and vitroil going on it isn't serving any positive purpose anymore.
The troublemakers are making everyone's lives miserable
they are all obsessed with Andy for some strange reason.
Your decision , my friend!!
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