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wahm253
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 15:30 � Edited by: wahm253
I saw this article
Channel 10 News
Then I saw THIS SPECIFICALLY in the article:
Simoni purchased $1,000 worth of what is being called advertising with Krimm's business. All Simoni had to do was click on a few Web sites each day and at the end of 15 days, he had a 50 percent return on his money.
Noticed how people are saying the difference between a Ponzi and ASD is that they sell ad packs.
Well...guess what the company in that ARTICLE sold, eh?
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dbmaxx
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 15:36
Do you think you found something we have seen before with this?
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Jubie33
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 15:37
Well.....I was smart enough not to get involved with autosurfing scams. When I first read about it here in the forum, I couldn't believe people were getting involved with it. I hope other people bail out before they get robbed.
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dbmaxx
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 15:41
Jubie,
I am glad to hear you passed on the scams. I do not want you or any one else to be taken by dishonest operations. So why do you pass on ASD? If it is a scam --please enlighten me with your specific proof as I am not interested in opinion to support the claim that this company is a scam. Please reply with REAL, HONEST and FACTUAL proof to any claim that ASD is a scam.
Thanks
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Kinglions175
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 15:44
I was told the S.E.C. already went to investigate A.S.D. and sat down with Andy. The fact that they left without closing A.S.D. down made me feel a little more comfortable...
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easyasdcash
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 15:48
Hello,
This article has nothing to do with ASD, this is an entirely different company.
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Jubie33
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 15:58 � Edited by: Jubie33
easyasdcash: Hello, This article has nothing to do with ASD, this is an entirely different company. In my opinion it is a scam. I also heard about the Channel 10 News article and read it. I have always had doubts about this type of business. Yes A.S.D is a different company but arn't you doing the same exact thing to earn money?
If you are happy with this business then more power to you. I wish you luck and prosperity. Me? I'm going in a different direction with my wallet.
It's absolutely ok to feel skeptical or even "change your mind" about A.S.D. There are a couple of people in this forum that have gotten out of A.S.D. But hey, like I said, if you're happy with it, then the best of luck.
Bye!
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alasycia
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 16:07
Kinglions175: I was told the S.E.C. already went to investigate A.S.D. and sat down with Andy. The fact that they left without closing A.S.D. down made me feel a little more comfortable...
Well I dont know where you heard it from. But if it is true the only people who will be uncomfortable are our anonymous friends from the "other forums" who have come over here to make unproven accusations and scare people.
I am certainly totally unsurprised. ASD was structured in such a way that it will be sustainable and compliant and cannot be a ponzi.
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 16:10 � Edited by: easyasdcash
One thing that is different is that ASD has integrity, and they hold up to thier promises. If you understand exactly how the system works then you will have a clear understanding of how everyone that gets involved can benefit from it. If you just think it is a scam based on the fact of your bad experinces that you have had in the past then you have no right to criticize ASD without fully looking into them. I have been in the internet / marketing scene for over 10 years now. I have seen scams come and go time and time again, and I am here to tell you that this is no scam, If you don't want to try it out then don't, no one is forcing anyone to get involved. Why not start with $10 and see how things go over like a three month period.
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easyasdcash
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 16:11
Thank you alasycia for backing me up on this.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 16:25
Just one comment.
To our anonymous friend WAHM253.
Your title "Why I changed my Mind" is a little suspect. You have been posting insinuations about the legality and a few others things about ASD for some time know all over the internet. You might be a little more subtle that some, but we get the message.
So "changing your mind " doesnt really come into it as I have never seen a post of yours ever that indicates that you might have any interest in ASD apart from getting everyone to believe it is a ponzi or a scam. So it looks like you havent changed your mind at all. So I guess it is just one of your clever titles to get people to come and look.
Worked didn't it, but as you insist on posting anonymously and noone even knows what programmes you DO think are any good or who ayou are working with at present, your credentials are a little lacking..
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easyasdcash
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 16:31
Hi alasycia,
The thing that I find funny is that wahm253 just joined on the 17th of July and has only one post, that one post is a link to an article that bashing ASD just becasue they assume is related to ASD. That goes to show how credible they are "NOT". Maybe they should read articles before they post them so they can get thier information right.
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wahm253
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 16:53 � Edited by: wahm253
easyasdcash: This article has nothing to do with ASD, this is an entirely different company.
Well, It's more about how THAT company is similar to ASD. Just by going on that alone, has caused me to be doubtful.
At first I was seriously considering ASD, until I did my research, even the SEC site gave hints as to what to what signs to look out for when coming across autosurf sites.
Sometimes you have to go with your gut on some things, listen to the little man inside you.
If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck....well...it's a duck. <shrug>
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wahm253
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 16:59 � Edited by: wahm253
alasycia: So "changing your mind " doesnt really come into it as I have never seen a post of yours ever that indicates that you might have any interest in ASD apart from getting everyone to believe it is a ponzi or a scam. So it looks like you havent changed your mind at all. So I guess it is just one of your clever titles to get people to come and look.
Just because I didn't make a post about me considering ASD, does not mean I did not consider it.
Posting Anon.? I thought everyone had a goofy screen name out there, don't they? lol
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logicalusa
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 17:18 � Edited by: logicalusa
Hey wahm253...your posts all over the internets are funny.
Looking forward to your next post with a different screen name soon.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 17:27
Having a screen name and hiding behind it are two different things!
Most of us here have signature links, and maybe names or emails on our profiles. We are easy to locate and people know who we work with. It makes sense, we are involved in some kind of business on the internet or off.
I guess that means that someone without any of this is (a) keeping quiet about their identity or (b) hasnt a clue about the internet and is not really involved in it at all.
You might have "considered" ASD, but we are not clear in what light you considered it. Clever, but not good enough.
So according to your thorough and publically published research - if it walks like a legitimate, sustainable and successful company and talks like a legitimate, sustainable and successful company it is ......?
Well according to you - it must be a legitimate sustainable and successful company!! Which is what the people who have really done their research know it to be.
And be careful about those "gut instincts". I had a friend who wrecked a very successful and long marketing career trusting his gut and ended up penniless and networkless, after investing his all in what was as a total scam, run by professional (and known) scammers. Because he trusted his gut! LOL
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jgiesbrecht
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 18:00 � Edited by: jgiesbrecht
"I was told the S.E.C. already went to investigate A.S.D. and sat down with Andy. The fact that they left without closing A.S.D. down made me feel a little more comfortable... "
The statement is made by Kinglions175. Would be interested to know if this is actually true or not. Don't know how someone could actually confirm that.
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Vaussie
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 18:37
What is true is that Andy has hired a Law Firm that specializes in SEC issues to ensure ASD remains completely compliant with all SEC regulations!!!
That was from the Miami convention - the company is in Miami with offices all over the US!
Andy is hiring the creme de la creme to ensure ASD is a success! In my book, that goes a long way towards building credibility!
I'm now choosing to ignore the nay-sayers. Like Iggy said... it's not about positive thinking... it's about your whole belief and outlook! I put a wall between myself and the negativity! If I respond with anger (or any variation thereof), I'm subconsciously buying into it!
Cheers! Brenda
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This post is either my opinion or my relative truth based on the information I have to this point in my journey!
Take what you like and leave the rest!
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wahm253
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 20:16 � Edited by: wahm253
Vaussie: I'm now choosing to ignore the nay-sayers. Like Iggy said... it's not about positive thinking... it's about your whole belief and outlook! I put a wall between myself and the negativity! If I respond with anger (or any variation thereof), I'm subconsciously buying into it!
Well, I'm not being negative. I just have my my doubts, that's all. I am skeptical. I am just researching the SEC, the news article on Channel 10, and forming my own opinion about it.
There's a difference being "negative" vs. just being cautious.
""I was told the S.E.C. already went to investigate A.S.D. and sat down with Andy. The fact that they left without closing A.S.D. down made me feel a little more comfortable... "
Yeah, and they say I SAY amusing and funny things.
"I was told...."
You were told "by whom". Heck, at least I got a link going somewhere. LOL!
The worst thing to do, when citing a source is by starting off with "I was told...."
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Kinglions175
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 21:04
wahm253, I'm not trying hard to make you believe what I said about what "I was told". You can believe it.. or not.. I don't care. My sponsor is someone I personally know and he doesn't just go around telling lies. So, when he also told me he and his wife had dinner with the attorney for A.S.D... I believed that as well. Of course you don't have to if you don't want to.
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Caterina
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 21:36
wahm253: Sometimes you have to go with your gut on some things, listen to the little man inside you. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck....well...it's a duck. <shrug>
And if it comes onto a forum, spewing unsubstantiated crap.....what's it called?
The little woman inside me tells me you're here for reasons that are NOT to benefit anyone but yourself.....<shrug>
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dbass2
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 22:05
I have posted on this forum before and some of the stuff I said was negative. And I have even been accused of being a whiner! My intent was not too bash ASD, I was just a little nervous about investing in something such as ASD, since this is really the first time Ive invested in something other than stocks, mutual funds, IRA, etc... Ive been doing some thinking and Ive realized that the internet can be a powerful tool and regardless of what topic, subject, etc... you research, there is always going to be bad things said about any topic on the internet. At this point forward, I will still keep a pulse of whats being said about ASD on the web, however, I will keep an open mind and not take anything I read or hear as gospel. After all, anyone can post anything they want on the internet, that doesnt make it true. For now, my decisons will be based upon results with me and my own account. And so far, everything I have been promised has been fulfilled... eventually. Lately things take a long time to happen and I am still not happy with customer servive, website performance, but I usually get paid at some point anyway. And due to the poor service, I have 0 referrals and don't expect to get any in the near future until I can prove to people that I have recouped some of my initial investment back and show them a functional website. And I also just want to make a comment, that the ups and downs of this opportunity is really turning out to very exciting for me. And I really am having a lot of fun with this opportunity and I am hoping for the best and to make lots of money. I just requested my first check today. Even though its a small check, it'll give me some reassurance about this program.
Until I start making money above and (way) beyond my initial investment, I am just going to hang on and enjoy the ride!
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Caterina
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# Posted: 21 Jul 2008 22:54
dbass2: I have posted on this forum before and some of the stuff I said was negative. And I have even been accused of being a whiner! My intent was not too bash ASD, I was just a little nervous about investing in something such as ASD, since this is really the first time Ive invested in something other than stocks, mutual funds, IRA, etc...
I don't think there's anything wrong with someone posting about their negative experience....I betcha we've all had at least one......LOL.....and when someone posts about a specific problem or frustration, I'm guessing more than a few can relate. The replies that come - the information, the suggestions for fixing, the encouragement - help a LOT more people than just the one who has posted.....imo.....so a "negative" post has value.
I don't see the value in posts made by people who come to this forum with NO experience with ASD, but yet claim to know it to be a fraudulent endeavor.....trying with all their might to cast doubt and suspicion.....man, is that sad or WHAT??!!
Happens on every forum I've ever frequented....
Anyhow, dbass.....how great that you're sharing your fun experiences, now.....and smart of you, imo, to request a small cashout, just to see how all that works!!
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asd is rolling
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# Posted: 22 Jul 2008 01:44
Well now, that attitude sounds alot better. Quite the improvement. You finally got paid the global credits that they said they were going to pay and now you're a believer! Most of us never doubted the company. My group has received cashout checks in as little as 10 days last week, so they are getting caught up.
I do think it helps to have good communication with your upline, they have been in longer, have been paid when they cashed out and know that the company always follows through. When you hear these things from your sponsor, you are less nervous and sleep better at night. You are more excited and you can share that excitement with prospects.
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