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Morelans
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2008 12:48
My phone rings.. I see it my mom calling. I answer:
Me � Hello
Mom- Shawn?
Me - Hello mom.. how are ya.
Mom - I sent you this money and I ever since I can not get on the site!
Me - Yea I know.. me either.. they are so busy and they are upgrading
Mom - So where is my money? How can I get paid if they are not runnin? Who is it helping to just pay me when they are down but no one gets to see the adds?
Me - Mom they are working on it - I am not happy either. Im sorry I got you in last week just before they went down for who knows how long. I had no idea.
Mom - You would think if they are making that much money they would at least have a computer that worked. Why don't you go there and fix it? Can you call them to help? 
Me - It is a tad deeper than that but I agree, something needs to be done soon. My other line is beeping mom.. I will call you back later tonight.
Mom - Ok but I hope they are back up soon.. if I have to tell your father about this you know what will happen! 
Me - Yea I know mom.. Im trying. I will give them a call and see if they will let me help.. love ya.. bye
Mom - You should call them.. tell them your mom is not happy! Love you too.. bye.
Click over to other line: It is my good friend I stayed with while in Miami so I could take him to the show to put his money in...
Me - Hey man.. hows it going.
Him � Come on man.. you know why I am calling. You said they would be back up by Tuesday?
Me - Oh boy.... insert excuses apologies and sucking up here.
Beep.. other line.. my other friend that joined in Miami. I give up.
Wake me when they finally come back online.
So glad I started with family and best friends first!! What an impression they have of me and my grand ideas now! 
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asdabq
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2008 13:10
Shawn,
Too bad they didn't invest in 26 new servers instead of 26 attorneys looking for slander!
But then, someone's got to pay the debt!
I understand lawsuits pay very well
Tom
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logicalusa
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2008 16:01
Hang in there Shawn. Besides, you didn't twist anyone's arm to join this company right?
Little people want this program to fail because they aren't involved and are searching for the misery in others to match their own.
How pathetic is it to go online to post negative stuff about a company they're not even involved with?
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Morelans
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2008 16:24
I agree. .I want to prove them all wrong as well.
After Miami I am more syked than ever to start spreading the word.. Just want the site to be up and running.
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vikingfan
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2008 16:45
Good news on the website front. My sponsor said Andy is not happy with how the website progress is going and he personally hired 12 of the best internet specialists in the world to help get it running. They are there RIGHT NOW! Tomorrow morning we will have some great surfing.
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kec
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2008 16:47
Hi...you know I have been trying to sign up for days. It 'apparently ' went thru today BUT I did not receive a confirm email to activate...so I have no member # and tick tock-there goes the 24 hour special...
any ideas on how to get to the next step to get a member # and get activated?
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luvtravel
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2008 17:12
vikingfan: Good news on the website front. My sponsor said Andy is not happy with how the website progress is going and he personally hired 12 of the best internet specialists in the world to help get it running. They are there RIGHT NOW! Tomorrow morning we will have some great surfing.
THANKS for the GOOD NEWS!!!
Now lets go count our $$$
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Morelans
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2008 17:16
Please do not tease me... I got my fingers crossed!@!
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Investigator
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 20:06
Site will be up next week per andy
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Louminous
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 23:49
vikingfan: he personally hired 12 of the best internet specialists in the world to help get it running.
I hate hearing this kind of stuff, I'm as optimistic as the next guy and would love for this to just run smooth, but when I continually hear things like this I think of other BS I've been introduced to and it irritates me more. Just say that you got some experinced tech guys working on it, not the top 12 in the world cuz thats BS, just say you bought a new building, why does it have to be the tallest in Quincy, why does it have to be a top law firm with offices all over the world who is going to sue everyone, just say you hired a great team of attorneys.
This kind of verbiage is what has me skeptical, be up front... when I sit in a business meeting I need facts not hype, simply name the law firm or tech company or say you bought a new building on such and such street and show a pic... let us do the research, all this hype stuff is sleazy old school salesman type ish...
Investigator I appreciate your input, you make valid points people should consider when getting involved in any company, I don't see you on here blasting the company.
Just my two cents
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Vaussie
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 00:21
kec: Hi...you know I have been trying to sign up for days. It 'apparently ' went thru today BUT I did not receive a confirm email to activate...so I have no member # and tick tock-there goes the 24 hour special... any ideas on how to get to the next step to get a member # and get activated?
I didn't get my money in within 24 hours, but I still got the 25% match... not to fret... if you are doing the right thing, I believe they will do the right thing by you!
This is ground floor... and with that comes some teething pains.
Regarding the site updates... I have been credited for the days we couldn't surf... and my check I sent with my sponsor was showing up in my ad packages a couple of days ago... the daily surfing did credit me including the add'l pkgs purchased in Miami.
However, my Visa purchases in Miami have not shown up as yet. They're still catching up... but it sure is great to see progress!
I've almost recouped my initial investment... now that's exciting!!!
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alasycia
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 10:12
kec: Hi...you know I have been trying to sign up for days. It 'apparently ' went thru today BUT I did not receive a confirm email to activate...so I have no member # and tick tock-there goes the 24 hour special... any ideas on how to get to the next step to get a member # and get activated?
If you have gone to the "Join Now" button and filled in all the details, including the sponsor who introduced you to the programme, you should be able to bring the site up and log in with your user name and password and you will see your member number on the page.
It should work - although you will have to wait until the site is up to do it! LOL
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logicalusa
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 13:20 � Edited by: logicalusa
Louminous: Investigator I appreciate your input, you make valid points people should consider when getting involved in any company, I don't see you on here blasting the company.
Well then you obviously missed this from Investigator aka The Grand Old Geezer:
"All my questions have been answered!!!! SCAM!!!"
http://www.work-at-home-forum.com/41_9128_0.html
If you want objectivity and impartiality, I wouldn't go with Investigator/The Grand Old Geezer or andrewh.
You should read their posts here and in other forums....
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alasycia
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 14:45
Hey you dont want to read them - unless you like bad TV soaps! They might put you off your cereals LOL.
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Investigator
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 15:19 � Edited by: Investigator
Let me say that everything that has been posted concerning Andy has been from Public Info and when a forum allows us to post the documents and the links to this public info we have done just that. Many of you claim to be stanch supporters of ASD and yet you have been unable to produce any documentation (just like Andy) to support all your spill concerning his many claims. The truth hurts!
I have even posted my name address and phone numbers and not one of Andy's 10,000 Attorney's has even made an effort to contact me. Why? Because they know that they can not show any proof to the contrary and if they are any type of Attorney I am sure they have told him that he does not have a leg to stand on more a less two.
Every question that has been asked with proof to back it up and yet we get no response other than the Cheerleaders with their Andy said he is going to sue. BULL! Andy is going to do nothing. So you continue with your Andy is God routine. We have accomplished what we have set out to do and that was to get people to use common sense. In the past week we can only guess as to the number of people that have walked away from this program and those that have joined in this past week are bigger fools than those that are already in the program and can not see the writing on the wall.
You all can not consider that you have been fooled and mislead. Sorry! It saddens me to think of all the friends and family that people are going to lose when this thing goes belly up and when a real program does come along they will laugh in your face.
Jack Arons
10088 Blue Waters Road
Tallahassee, Florida 32305
H: 850-421-5791
C: 850-933-6787
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LauraLicata
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 15:28
I wanted to add that I understand how some people can be disillusioned and have a bad taste for what has happened. Frankly, I have seen it before in other companies who have gone through a trial period and disappointed people along the way.
We all have a right to our opinions and if someone is frustrated and venting...then so be it.
I personally have a good feeling about ASD (maybe its intuition or a "gut" instinct) but I can also see the other side. It depends upon our experiences and obviously not everyone has had positive experiences with online ventures. For that matter, some people who are completely new to this can be scared away by the people who are only proponents and not showing (in some cases) the others who are concerned their due respect.
This is just an observation.
Take care,
Laura
This is just how I am observing the threads and I don't think it hurts to look at both sides or views.
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logicalusa
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 15:30
Investigator: Let me say that everything that has been posted concerning Andy has been from Public Info and when a forum allows us to post the documents and the links to this public info we have done just that. Many of you claim to be stanch supporters of ASD and yet you have been unable to produce any documentation (just like Andy) to support all your spill concerning his many claims. The truth hurts! I have even posted my name address and phone numbers and not one of Andy's 10,000 Attorney's has even made an effort to contact me. Why? Because they know that they can not show any proof to the contrary and if they are any type of Attorney I am sure they have told him that he does not have a leg to stand on more a less two. Every question that has been asked with proof to back it up and yet we get no response other than the Cheerleaders with their Andy said he is going to sue. BULL! Andy is going to do nothing. So you continue with your Andy is God routine. We have accomplished what we have set out to do and that was to get people to use common sense. In the past week we can only guess as to the number of people that have walked away from this program and those that have joined in this past week are bigger fools than those that are already in the program and can not see the writing on the wall. You all can not consider that you have been fooled and mislead. Sorry! It saddens me to think of all the friends and family that people are going to lose when this thing goes belly up and when a real program does come along they will laugh in your face. Jack Arons 10088 Blue Waters Road Tallahassee, Florida 32305 H: 850-421-5791 C: 850-933-6787
Who is "we" by the way? Go away and go get a life in the process.
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logicalusa
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 15:37
Investigator: I have even posted my name address and phone numbers and not one of Andy's 10,000 Attorney's has even made an effort to contact me. Why? Because they know that they can not show any proof to the contrary and if they are any type of Attorney I am sure they have told him that he does not have a leg to stand on more a less two.
Exactly proof of what from the company or Andy are you searching for The Grand Old Geezer/Investigator/whatever other screen names you use?
This should be good.
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LauraLicata
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 15:39
Are you really serious? I was just making a point of letting other people vent.
I have seen many people on this forum back up ASD and others disrespect the company.
People will make their own decisions based on everything they read.
Your reply is just substantiating what I just said.
The "get a life" thing was creative though...
Take care,
Laura
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LauraLicata
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 15:44 � Edited by: LauraLicata
I am responding here to logicalusa's post as to who I am...in particular, if I am going on as another screen name. I am not.
My name is Laura Licata and I am a member of ASD with a positive attitude about the company. I just don't believe in people who put others down for their concerns...even if they are not worded in the way some would like.
I'm a teacher, marketer and someone who is constantly interested in learning more about something I would invest in. I teach math but I also try to show respect and how to deal with people who are not always on the same page as you.
That's all it is.
Laura
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logicalusa
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 15:54 � Edited by: logicalusa
My post wasn't addressed to you Laura. This person is not "venting". He posts under different screen names in different forums. He has stated he will be filing a federal lawsuit: "I will be filing this paper along with my Federal lawsuit against Uncle Andy and Robert Foolish Gardner". Link here: http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=540675&postcount=162
Did you notice he's calling an ASD atty. foolish?
He's just admitted he has an agenda ("We have accomplished what we have set out to do") and yet you have a problem with my post?
Oook.
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Vaussie
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 15:58
If you have $100k in ad packages and don't believe you will receive your rebates from that... and then you do... you will be due for one big retraction!
Just in case you happen to be the one that's wrong!?
If I make just 1/2 of what the numbers suggest, I will be a winner! And I'm ok with that! I have no desire to be a millionaire! I'm happy to make some extra money so I don't have to worry about the price of freaking gas everytime my tank gets half empty!
If I happen to be one of the first 100,000 millionaires produced from this program... then that will be a beautiful thing!
What I am saying, I don't have to be a millionaire to be successful with this business!
I'm a winner by virtue of the fact that I did my due diligence, I overcame my fears and I have 90% of my initial purchase available to me!
I know the checks go out, I've seen my sponsor's checks laying on the table waiting to be opened! My sponsor is my friend whom I trust to be ethical and intelligent. I went to Miami and saw the interest, heard the information from the platform, and I've concluded their word is spoken with the truest of intent! If they are standing up there lying, then karma will ensure all is perfectly balanced... somewhere down the road!
I have nothing to lose but a bit of savings, and everything to gain!
I think it's important to weigh in both sides!
Investigator... may I suggest you withhold your feelings of sadness for those who lose when (and if) this goes belly up until such time as that happens? You are projecting a great deal of negativity... express your concerns... but save your judgements.
Just my take... not intended to be catty or anything! I just see your posts as opinions spoken as facts. Even if there is a liteny of previous negative history, it does not mean this is following suit (granted it is a warning sign.)
If you have so much in ad packages, I can't beleive you aren't reaping enough cash out to be satisfied.
So I can only assume that you are cashing out every time you get on the site and waiting until your cycle(s) end(s). Then you can go away and leave the rest of us to enjoy our "scam" without your negative spewings.
Perspective and Objectivity are beautiful things!
PS. I do not and will not dietize Andy in any way! I do however respect what appears to be a very good reputation!
Cheers!
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LauraLicata
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 16:04
If that is the case Logicalusa then I apologize. It came minutes after mine and I saw that you mentioned that someone may be using another screen name and I want to make sure that I even use a full name because I am who I am. No pretenses.
I am certainly not here to offend at all.
Take care,
Laura
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logicalusa
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 16:04
Vaussie: If you have $100k in ad packages and don't believe you will receive your rebates from that... and then you do... you will be due for one big retraction!
Has he said he has $100k in Ad packages?
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logicalusa
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 16:08
LauraLicata: If that is the case Logicalusa then I apologize. It came minutes after mine and I saw that you mentioned that someone may be using another screen name and I want to make sure that I even use a full name because I am who I am. No pretenses.
Geez Laura. I quoted the person I was addressing my post to. I don't see how you would assume it was addressed to you.
No worries though.
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LauraLicata
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 16:18
Sorry...I made a mistake!
Take care,
Laura
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Louminous
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 20:28
logicalusa: Well then you obviously missed this from Investigator aka The Grand Old Geezer: "All my questions have been answered!!!! SCAM!!!" http://www.work-at-home-forum.com/41_9128_0.htmlIf you want objectivity and impartiality, I wouldn't go with Investigator/The Grand Old Geezer or andrewh. You should read their posts here and in other forums....
Look, I'm not agreeing with anyone on here whether it is positive or negative... The pros and cons of any opportunity are valid to me whether they are proven facts or just opinions... you have to look at everything objectively in life. Now maybe I did miss the "SCAM" comment which is unnecessary, but Investigator still makes some very valid points, ultimately you make your own decision.
I think we just have a wide range of business experience on here which causes us to look at things differently, some people are gullible others are critical, some people believe the hype of a good salesman, I personally can't stand that, I like a good business model which I think we have here. However I can also agree with alot of the critical info, I see alot of things that need to be addressed in a more precise and professional manner.
On another note, I just got back from the Chicago rally... which didn't really change the way that I look at this opportunity. I'm still optimistic but objectively concerned, the next few months will be interesting to watch.
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logicalusa
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 20:49
Louminous: The pros and cons of any opportunity are valid to me whether they are proven facts or just opinions... you have to look at everything objectively in life. Now maybe I did miss the "SCAM" comment which is unnecessary, but Investigator still makes some very valid points, ultimately you make your own decision.
I have nothing against objectivity, but objectivity doesn't mean posting misleading information, false accusations, threats to sue(like that will make him credible)and insulting people associated with the company. Didn't you just post in his thread about there being no medal/award given to Andy B.? How is starting a thread like that objective?
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Louminous
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 22:33
logicalusa: Didn't you just post in his thread about there being no medal/award given to Andy B.? How is starting a thread like that objective?
Yeah I did post in his thread and if you read it you would of saw what I posted, let me repeat it for you and others... I was at the Chicago rally and I saw the Award it was in a frame which included a letter, a certificate, and a gold medal (ie. like the Olympic medals). Now one could be a skeptic and say it was all fake or one could believe it was the real deal.
Simply put... some of his points are valid some are not, some of the ASD hype men on here have valid points some is simply fluff. Some people came out of the rally today inspired, some were looking for more...
Investigator brings up alot of questions someone may ask you, if your in lala land and never thought of those things you won't have a rebuttal. So look at it as a learning tool to keep you on your toes, you can take good out of any situation. Iron sharpens Iron.
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logicalusa
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 23:05 � Edited by: logicalusa
Louminous: I was at the Chicago rally and I saw the Award it was in a frame which included a letter, a certificate, and a gold medal (ie. like the Olympic medals). Now one could be a skeptic and say it was all fake or one could believe it was the real deal.
No kidding. Skeptic? I doubt anyone would be dumb enough to create a fake physical award, a fake letter and a certificate (with respective seals?)for thousands to see in person after posting the news about the award on a website with a reach of over 120,000 people. Not like it was the Quincy Girl Scouts award or something you know?
So Investigator/The Great Old Geezer starts a thread basically saying that there is no medal. Claims to have been told by the White House that there was only one given in June and there is no record of Andy Bowdoin ever receiving that distinction.
Claims to have contacted the "Republican Party" and claims to have been told "they did not have any record indicating that they have ever given the award to Andy Bowdoin."
Before you showed up in that thread someone who attended Chicago said he saw it in person.
You posted you attended Chicago and saw it as well.
Thread over. BS exposed.
Tell me again how that is being "objective"?
Maybe you have a different definition of objectivity. Most of that guy's posts, starting with that thread, sure aren't.
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