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rappkim
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Joined: 10 Jul 2008
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# Posted: 10 Jul 2008 14:56
Beware all the hype of ASD Cash Generator. This is starting to look like a scam site. I signed up a week ago to a ASD website and now the site does not exist. They "switched " me to a new site that no longer has a phone number and the "support" section does not accept new registrations. After much search on Google, I found an ASD support number, but after many hours of being put on hold, I realized that there is NO intention of the "support" office to answer the phone. They just want you to send upgrade money so they can make payouts to other members. It appears to be a giant scheme about to collapse. DON'T GO THERE!
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freebird658
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Posts: 117
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2008 12:42
Hello Rappkim,
The site was down for hardware upgrades yesterday. You can keep up with the breaking news and get all the support phone #s here:
http://www.freewebs.com/dawnstowers/index.htm
Please don't get discouraged because of the website issues...ASD is growing by 1000 members a day and they are trying to keep up with the growth. 
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2008 12:56
There seems to be some Confusion among folks between:
1. Legality of ASD (SCAM/PONZI, etc)
2. Support Service of ASD (Website slowness, telephone, tickets, etc)
3. Financial Sustainability of ASD (Business Model, Financial Longevity, etc)
There are all Independent Issues.
ASD Could be Legal and yet have Sucky Support Services.
ASD Could be Illegal and have Great Support Services.
ASD Could be Legal and not have Financial Sustainability.
ASD Could have Great Support Services and not have Financial Sustainability.
ASD Could have Financial Sustainability and Sucky Support Services.
etc, etc, etc
Let's try not to get these separate issues confused folks...
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alasycia
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2008 15:43
They "switched " me to a new site that no longer has a phone number and the "support" section does not accept new registrations
I cant even begin to imagine what can have happened!!!
The only thing that makes sense is that you had a tough time getting through to customer support on telephone!! There is only one ASD Cash Generator site - although there are many links from member's advertising pages that lead to it.
www.asdcashgenerator.com
And I assure you that the bottlenecks in support are affecting payments made to purchase ad packs equally badly as the cash out payments. So they are not waiting for Pauls money to pay Peter!!
A scam is a fraud - lousy admin is lousy admin. Dont get the two mixed up.
I suggest you go to your site - the link is and look up the name of your sponsor and get in touch with them ask them for help
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dbmaxx
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Joined: 10 Jul 2008
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2008 22:28
what is this www.adsurfdaily.com ??
they have the same phone number and address as ASD?
The site is nicer and they have 150% rebates. Is anyone familiar with this?
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2008 00:36
I believe that was the former ASD site that Andy also owned before morphing it into the current asdcashGenerator site. The former site was "outgrowned" and members of the former site were given the option of getting their money out or transferring their money into asdCashGenerator.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2008 06:40
The link you have is in fact, as Iggy said, the old ASD site for the original programme before it was upgraded to ASD Cash Generator. The original site was shut down due to major script programmes which caused overpayment. When the New site was opened up 5% of our original ad packs and cash were transferred over and later in the year the rest was transferred as promised. And of course ASD now own their servers and have their own scripts written for them
Once we saw that our original purchases and cash were being returned to us -a lot of people, myself included, realised that this WAS the serious company is stated it was and got back working with them Many of us have regrets for having less faith in the company before. On reflection I personally dont - I may be a little behind the ASD millionaires in my earnings, but have always preferred facts to faith when it comes to business. They gave me facts and because of this, I realised that I could work with them and stay ethical!!
Nothing that has happened since, bottlenecks included, have given me any reason to change my mind.
By the way - until we receive notification the the old site has been complete shut down - it is still possible for original members to get their ad packs and cash balances transfered to ASD Cash Generator - but this will not be indefinate. I have successfuly helped all the people in my group transfer over their stuff.
Jenny
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dbmaxx
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2008 08:17
Thanks
I figured it was an old site but was looking for the story behind it
I appreciate your feedback as it is very helpful!!
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Morelans
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2008 17:42
What a shame.. that site does look better and I was able to surf the entire site.... unlike the new and improved.
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MrDoh
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2008 17:47
Morelans: was able to surf the entire site.... unlike the new and improved.
That could be because the old site probably had 1 or 2 people looking at it at the time, where the new site has potentially over 100,000 members looking and using it at any given time.
I understand the frustration, but don't think THAT part of your comparison was valid.
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dbass2
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Joined: 14 Jul 2008
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2008 23:58
Ive heard alot about ASD and I am actually a member. In fact almost everything I hear is good and rarely do I hear anything bad. But one thing I have yet to hear is if anyone has actually made any money above and beyond intial investment.
How about it.... Anyone actually made any $$$$$$$???????
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iggyigette
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Joined: 27 May 2008
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 00:42
dbass2: How about it.... Anyone actually made any $$$$$$$???????
Ask again by the end of August when I get my $$ back. Doing weekly Cash Outs now...
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Vaussie
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 00:47
I don't know if we are allowed to give $$ s in here or not... but I assure you my sponsor and dear friend started with his Government Rebate check and is now on track to match his 6 figure income by the end of the year!
He's done very very well!
125% of what you puchase in ad pkgs, 125% of company matches for both you and those you signup, commissions, rolling over, etc.
This is very real... I've seen the checks personally!
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Still a believer in ASD!
This post is either my opinion or my relative truth based on the information I have to this point in my journey!
Take what you like and leave the rest!
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Investigator
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Joined: 10 Jul 2008
Posts: 33
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 13:40
site is back online and SLOW!!!!
They have changed the terms of service and they no longer say that you must abide by the laws of Panama....
Damage Control....?????
They better read it over again cause they now say that you are purchasing advertising...
That means that they are selling a product and as such you the purchaser owe Florida Taxes on your purchase.
Florida Department of Revenue has been notified!
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 13:58
Investigator: That means that they are selling a product and as such you the purchaser owe Florida Taxes on your purchase. Florida Department of Revenue has been notified!
Investigator:
So you are saying that 100,000+ ASD members are going to have to pay Florida Taxes and that ASD is not informing the members of this Florida Tax Liability?
And you're going to Put your credibility online for this?
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Melvin4
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 17:13
I have 1 question about this asd stuff. Can you cash out at any point no matter what, without paying any outrageous fees. Also how long has this company been doing this for??
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Melvin4
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 17:23
I mean has anyone made more than their initial investment yet?
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luvtravel
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 17:31 · Edited by: luvtravel
Investigator: site is back online and SLOW!!!! They have changed the terms of service and they no longer say that you must abide by the laws of Panama....
The site is NOT back online
(false statement #1!)
How could you possibly read the TOS when the site is NOT back online
(false statement #2)
You people that post lies, mistatements or whatever you want to call it without backing it up with facts in black and white are less than credible and your posts should be IGNORED!
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logicalusa
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 17:43
Actually luvtravel
....people posting mistatements and lies consistently should be reported to the company.
This program is already changing my life and I will protect it as required.
First post by the way. I am frustrated by the site being down but I think the site is down not only to address the surfing speed issues(bandwidth) but to add new features(like advertising that someone mentioned) and ACH cash outs for example.
All I can say is be patient, stay positive and protect your company from the ones who want to do it harm.
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luvtravel
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 18:02
I really dont understand what or why the bashers are hitting every forum (note they come on every ASD thread and bash it you can tell them as they usually have ONE post)
Credible? (judge for yourselves)
One has to wonder what they hope to gain by bashing ASD
Why they are so jealous of ASD
Why they don't bash other advertising companies
Interesting phenomena this hatred of a program
that they usually know nothing about
Are they our saviours
OR just sour grapes????
There are a boatload of them it appears because sooner or later you will see them hitting every ASD thread posting mistatements and in some cases out and out LIES!!
Amazing!!
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advocate
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 18:42
I've been involved in many pay per view programs (still waiting for payment from DadNDave's) including all the way back to ymmss in 2002.
I signed up for ASD and tried to wire funds-----they gave the wrong routing number on the web site. The next day, the site was down and under renovation. Has anyone been with them for awhile to assure me they are not about to implode? Had a lot of bad luck with many programs, like many of you.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 19:18
advocate: -----they gave the wrong routing number on the web site.
Unless they Changed their routing number since May, I was successful in wiring in money in May.
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Joy122
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 20:11
Everyone jumps to conclusions, it's because they are doing upgrades so surfing would go faster and get paid faster.
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DSS900
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Joined: 16 Jul 2008
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# Posted: 16 Jul 2008 07:07
luvtravel: Investigator: site is back online and SLOW!!!! They have changed the terms of service and they no longer say that you must abide by the laws of Panama.... The site is NOT back online (false statement #1!) How could you possibly read the TOS when the site is NOT back online (false statement #2) You people that post lies, mistatements or whatever you want to call it without backing it up with facts in black and white are less than credible and your posts should be IGNORED!
Calm down Folks. The site was actually up for a few minutes yesterday. I know because I too was anxiously trying to access my account and do some surfing. So there was no lie.
For those who want to know if ASD has paid out according to their stated 125%, I can only tell you that we received more than 3 times what our initial purchase was. We now have it sitting in Solid Trust Pay. Unfortunately, STP, because they are so tightly linked with ASD, is also doing upgrades to coincide with ASD.
While I'm highly disappointed that ASD and STP are not working smoothly at this time, I would rather they get their programming done right right and get the bugs worked out now because there will be millions joining this program as they open the Chinese site.
The ASD concept is well thought through and simply needs our patience. It will works guys.
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luvtravel
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# Posted: 16 Jul 2008 08:18
I was able to surf last night after the webinar, Andy was quite determined to take care of the bashers on forums, he said that the majority of the bashers are "jealous competitors".
Site is down again this morning, gets frustrating to have the site down like this.
They need to stop recruiting new people till the site is up and running permanently for us current members.
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MrDoh
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# Posted: 16 Jul 2008 08:42
DSS900: get the bugs worked out now because there will be millions joining this program as they open the Chinese site.
For the record, I believe ASD is NOT GoldenPanda and GoldenPanda is not ASD.
They are not the same company and different people run GoldenPanda. Their offices aren't even in the same state.
ASD needs to put out news on their official involvement, if any at this point, with GoldenPanda.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2008 16:37
I was looking round the forums today and found one honest comment from someone. They said that a new site ASD was on the internet scene that was affecting other programmes and losing them business.
He wouldnt call it a scam , he said he was "watching" but was honest - he said it was hitting some other programmes badly.
Given the suprising lack of ethics or accountability in many online companies - go figure!
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tucker137
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 18:35
MrDoh: ASD needs to put out news on their official involvement, if any at this point, with GoldenPanda.
Well, Andy just 'resigned' as president of the golden panda site, so there's no need for it: but they were involved.
The CEO is Clarence Busby - and he has a strike against him with the SEC
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frankcseke
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Joined: 20 Jul 2008
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# Posted: 20 Jul 2008 20:37
Whether you are for or against ASD you have some kind of bias. However, at least stick to the facts and be as objective as you can. I have seen post after post from both sides and to be honest the public viewing these will just be confused.
ASD, Inc. has gone public enough to beg the question why anyone would risk the allegations made against the company. And to the critics, all they do is spin information and ask rhetorical questions. They never post hard cold facts, just opinion, conjecture, and speculation. Those who like the company or promote it at least give some factual information even though they promote it. There are the "cheerleaders" out there, but most of the posts I see come from someone who at least will back the company with their personal info. The bashers remain anonymous and so they should as half the time they are committing civil wrongs or breaking the law. Do your due diligence with a licensed expert, like a CPA or Attorney. Don't do it through some online forum or message board.
I like ASD and it is legitimate in my estimation but do your own research.
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LordAlan
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 03:23
is the panda up and running and is it as good as ASD?
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