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bluedog24
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# Posted: 7 Jul 2008 23:06
Why doesn't ASD have it set up, so people can put money in through credit card right now?
I mean, I was talking to some refferals, and possible refferals, and the fact that you have to wait a couple of weeks for it to show up is frustrating...
What do you think the plans ASD has to make this more convinient and easier for people?
By the way, what does STP stand for? Is that the same thing as wiring money, or something else, I don't understand what it is.
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westfam11
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# Posted: 7 Jul 2008 23:23
bluedog24,
STP stands for SolidTrustPay which is a payment processor like AlertPay.
I can't answer the ASD question about the credit card though.
Becky
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 7 Jul 2008 23:27
Does Solidtrustpay charge a fee and how long does it generally take to go through, and can you do do it by credit card?
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 7 Jul 2008 23:39
Blue,
Credit Cards will be allowed at the Upcoming Miami Rally...so my guess is that it is heading in that direction...
The Other Solution to established ASD Members is the Upcoming Debit Card...
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 00:14
Thanks for the info guys!! So, how does solidpay trust work? I dont see a link on the website on how to get money to the company, and normally about how long will it be until the money will show up?
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alasycia
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 03:52
Solid Trust Pay - https://solidtrustpay.com/
This is a payprocessor, like Alert Pay or Pay Pal (which cannot be used by ASD as it is against their TAU - like most surf sites)
STP can be funded from the bank in the US and by credit card internationally - but this second option is a little expensive!
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 07:35
So I can tell people they can use their credit card through this? I'm still confused.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 08:47
No not yet.
Wait until we are told and then the procedures will also be set up.
It is not available yet.
Cash out by Alert Pay will still continue - but AFTER 31ST JULy we cannot pay using Alert pay.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 09:31
There are rumors that the Debit Card will be available in the next few weeks...oh oh I am starting another rumor...
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alasycia
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 09:33
Hi Iggy - the rumour started from an ASD call, so I think you can take it as a SERIOUS RUMOR!!!LOL
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 16:53
Okay, so let me get this straight...
As of today, and until July 31st, the only 2 ways to put cash in are by wiring money from a bank(which has like a 15 dollar fee along with it), and alertpay(which I'm guessing is not done by credit card, maybe you can fill me in on that).
The reason I ask, is because I have someone that wants to put in money before the rally this Saturday, to see how it all works, and wants it to be there ASAP. Is there any form of pay that could make the money arrive in that short amount of time?
Please be clear here, it's really important to me...
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 17:27
You coul mail in the Cashiers Check but that will take a few weeks to get credited.
In the past, Wiring the money in will get the account credited the next day ASSUMING ASD receives the FAX information that goes along with it.
These days...you can pray your fax gets through to them so there is no guarantee that the money will get credited unless you have a successful fax
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alasycia
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 19:55
A money order and a fax sent with the recipt and confirmation that it has been signd for - from the onine tracker firmly copy pasted to the fax also seems to work -
But write clearly please. and put your ASD number and name etc
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 20:03
Beleive it or not, I'm still not clear...
Please just tell me the available paying options that are being offered...
And if possible, can credit cards be used along any of these paying options?
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 20:13
Credit Cards CANNOT be used.
The reason Credit Cards cannot be used was that people would buy Ad Packages with their credit cards, then have Buyer's Remorse then call their Credit Card the next day to Put a Stop on the Purchase...which screws up ASD's paperwork requiring more time to reverse stuff...
At the Miami Rally I think they are allowing Credit Card purchases with a Consent Form that needs to be signed by the Credit Card User stating ALL PURCHASES ARE FINAL. NO REFUNDS.
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freebird658
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 22:08 · Edited by: freebird658
I don't understand. How is going from Alertpay to Solid Trust Pay going to be any different? Most people have an Alertpay account and now of course ASD is phasing them out instead of fixing the issues which seems to me should not be that hard to do. I use them as a payprocessor on my sites and am paid instantly and vice versa when I use them to pay on other websites as well. ASD is the only program I have seen that this doesn't happen. So if they can't automate Alertpay with ASD how are they going to be able to automate Solid Trust Pay? Plus hardly anyone has even heard of STP until recently, so their can't be too many people that has an account with them or even may want one for that matter.
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 22:14
I agree freebird...
By the way, still waiting for the list of available paying options from you guys...
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freebird658
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 22:46 · Edited by: freebird658
As far as I can see (someone correct me if I'm wrong) the only available options is going to be cash balance, wire transfer and STP until they get the debit card. They no longer accept checks and they are phasing out the direct deposit and Alertpay July 31. I would think if you have a valid credit card on your STP account, how would ASD know if you funded your STP account with it to pay ASD?
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rippinrod
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2008 22:51
Bluedog,
Just got this info from another ASD forum and remembered your requests.
"Overnight delivery is the Fastest way you can get your money into ASD for ad package purchases...Mail your cashier's check or money order along with ALL needed info for a speedy transaction: your name, email, phone number, member ID., instructions of which account you want your money in (Spanish or English) and your sponsor information (member ID., name email etc). Your order will get processed there and then when they open your mail...all they have to do is open your account to put it directly in."
Not my words, theirs.
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lacy_amy
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# Posted: 9 Jul 2008 13:56
Also keep in mind that STP (solid trust pay) does charge a fee. So if you are looking to deposit money and don't want to pay a fee your only option really would be a money order or cashiers check. It take longer than paying with STP but atleast you would not have to pay a fee.....
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dbmaxx
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2008 21:23
Can't they do PAYPAL?
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teydean
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2008 22:39
NO PAYPAL!!
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westfam11
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2008 23:15 · Edited by: westfam11
Prohibited Activities
This is in the Paypal terms of agreement:
You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:
3. Relate to transactions that (a) show the personal information of third parties in violation of applicable law, (b) support pyramid or ponzi schemes, matrix programs, other "get rich quick" schemes or certain multi-level marketing programs, (c) are associated with purchases of annuities or lottery contracts, lay-away systems, off-shore banking or transactions to finance or refinance debts funded by a credit card, (d) are for the sale of certain items before the seller has control or possession of the item, (e) are by payment processors to collect payments on behalf of merchants, (f), are associated with the sale of traveler's checks or money orders, (h) involve currency exchanges or check cashing businesses, or (i) provide certain credit repair or debt settlement services.
Since ASD pays on two levels that would be considered MLM by paypal.
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dbmaxx
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2008 08:23
Gotcha -- thanks for the info
I find it funny that paypal prohibits "ponzi scheme payments: - as if a ponzi scheme is going to characterize itself as such
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Caterina
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2008 09:50
freebird658: I don't understand. How is going from Alertpay to Solid Trust Pay going to be any different?
My understanding is that it has to do with the accompanying information sent by Alert Pay (and by B of A when it comes to direct deposits). There isn't enough information to know WHO sent the money. I'm assuming, therefore, that Solid Pay must have a better system for informing ASD who sent the money......??
I'm counting on someone to correct me if I'm wrong.....
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alasycia
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2008 10:00
We do not know the full story behind the ASD reasons for giving up on Alert Pay, but they are stopping using for puchases so speculation is now irrelevant.
STP is a US based payment processor and only available with a large credit card transaction fee outside the US (10%)
We will have to wait until they tell us how we are going to be able to fund out accounts outside the US apart from Bank Wires!
Hopefully we will know more after the Miami rally!
Jenny
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freebird658
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2008 22:44
Caterina: My understanding is that it has to do with the accompanying information sent by Alert Pay (and by B of A when it comes to direct deposits). There isn't enough information to know WHO sent the money. I'm assuming, therefore, that Solid Pay must have a better system for informing ASD who sent the money......??
It just seems to me that if the information given is the problem, why can't they just add a field in the members profile for their Alertpay email address like a lot of other membership sites do, so they could easily identify the paying member.
Other membership scripts has the capability to do it and it accurately credits the correct member instantly too. I would think that any qualified programmer should be able to add this capability to the script if it isn't already there.
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