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Vishal P. Rao
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# Posted: 6 Jun 2008 02:07 · Edited by: Vishal P. Rao
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Majority of the newbies into forum marketing make this mistake of being too assertive in their approach, often using explicit texts to coax readers into looking into their signature. I would like to stress on the fact that such an approach will hardly deliver any lasting results in the long run. You may make a sale here and there, but you'll miss the gold mine lying underneath.
If you truly want to get the maximum results from forums, spend some quality time here and share real information. Be real. Don't force yourself into making n posts every time you make a visit here. It doesn't matter how many posts you make but how many people that have benefited from reading your posts. The feedback you get will be far more heartening to read than seeing the posts counter below your member name. And these are the very people you'll most likely be doing business with.
Always remember this: People who visit you signature links after being impressed by the information you have posted, are far more likely to do long-term business with you than casual visitors, who visit you, being impressed by the text in your signature.
Haste never delivers. Anything that's built with love, care and patience will always deliver the most. Be it an ice-cream or a house. The longer the time you'll spend on them, the better they'll turn out to be. So don't rush and take it easy.
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opendomain
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# Posted: 6 Jun 2008 04:15
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well said Vishal.
People who tend to try to sell online usually end up doing more damage than good to their bottom line. People buy you not your product...that's something I picked up in car sales long ago and it's translated beautifully online.
be yourself, be helpful and your long term goals are more likely to take hold.
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# Posted: 6 Jun 2008 05:16
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One of the worst things you can do is say "checkout my signature link" because it says "I want you to buy from me". Every once in a while, it is ok to point out what is in your signature file, but the reality is, like Vishal said, if you offer VALUE in your posts, people will check out your signature link without you having to call attention to it.
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mountainmom5
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# Posted: 6 Jun 2008 08:25
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Vishal P. Rao: Haste never delivers. Anything that's built with love, care and patience will always deliver the most. Be it an ice-cream or a house. The longer the time you'll spend on them, the better they'll turn out to be. So don't rush and take it easy.
Well said Vishal - and I take this opportunity to thank you for what you do around here. We appreciate it!
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Hemjoe
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# Posted: 6 Jun 2008 11:22
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I would have to agree with "mountainmom5" this is a great forum
"Its quality not quantity that counts" just remember that
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million2
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# Posted: 6 Jun 2008 20:34
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I agree with what you said Vishal. I do believe quality content is very important and answering questions or giving good advise. You need to build a reputation first , so people could trust you and then they will be your loyal customer and friend.
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happywife
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# Posted: 7 Jun 2008 00:23
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A timely reminder Vishal.
Sometimes I visit the forum only to feel I don't have anything of 'real value' to add. Either the questions are not in my area of knowledge or the answers have been thoroughly given. I've been learning to just remain silent at those times. It was a process to get to that point in my thinking.
Other times I feel like maybe people will find my answers a bit 'one-sided' as relates to building niche sites. I try not to be too narrow in my thinking, but I can only really comment honestly on what I actually know.
Because my experience and knowledge is limited to what I have learned in my own quest toward building an online business, I feel my responses are somewhat limited as a result.
It helps, of course, that I truly believe and have confidence in the 'methods' that have worked for me, so my enthusiasm is genuine. But, at the same time, I do hope I don't come across as 'too assertive' and turn people away. It's something that must be balanced, I suppose.
At any rate, kudos Vishal, for a 'classy' forum that really can benefit all of us if we do as you suggest and build with love, care, and patience.
Blessings,
Angie
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jschuman
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# Posted: 7 Jun 2008 15:28
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Thanks Vishal. Good advice for everyone who does forum marketing!
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2008 07:48
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Hi Vishal,
I passionately agree with everything you've said and I'm glad that you've mentioned all of it.
opendomain: Well said and I'm with you. Be helpful.
Hemjoe: Good point - offer value.
happywife: I'm glad I'm not the only one. Some times when I sign in, I stop short of posting because it wouldn't add any value. When that happens, I log off without posting anything. Once in a while it happens twice in a single week.
Your sincerity shows every time you post. I don't feel that you push SBI too hard. You always add value with your helpful posts.
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cherie27
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2008 09:20
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Ok. I will take note of your advice
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2008 16:32 · Edited by: A8ch
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happywife: Other times I feel like maybe people will find my answers a bit 'one-sided' as relates to building niche sites. I try not to be too narrow in my thinking, but I can only really comment honestly on what I actually know.
It's natural for us to be our own worst critics, so I understand why you may sometimes think of your answers as one-sided. But, as you point out, you can only report on what you know, and what you know may be just the information someone is looking for at the moment.
Never mind how "one-sided" it may seem to you, to the people who find your post useful, it means the world to them.
Hermas
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happywife
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2008 19:51
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A8ch: It's natural for us to be our own worst critics
I suppose you are right on that one. I guess I'll just continue to try to be as helpful as I can and if I get too carried away Vishal can send me a gentle reminder to pull in the reigns a bit. 
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Vishal P. Rao
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# Posted: 20 Jun 2008 02:18
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happywife: if I get too carried away Vishal can send me a gentle reminder to pull in the reigns a bit.
I need to send a reminder to only those who are not aware of what I'm trying to convey here. Those who believe in what I'm trying to convey here, need not be sent reminders even if they get carried away because some time or the other they will soon realize what they should be actually doing
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LauraLicata
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 15:59
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Great advice Vishal. I love visiting forums and have learned probably more about marketing by this method than any other.
Its unbelievable how many successful people out there who are willing to share their knowledge and I have always been so appreciative of that.
Take care,
Laura
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 23:40
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You make excellent points. This forum is different than alot of them in that there are all kinds here looking at many different types of home business' and many ways to advertise. It takes a while to read through everything here, but is well worth the time.
Also, once you find your passion for your home business you really do not worry that much if you get that one more sign up - you know you have quality and you stop sweating the small stuff and work to build it over time, not to jump in and out of the next newest thing.
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# Posted: 4 Jul 2008 02:56
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Thanks for the advice
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2008 01:32
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I find alot of people simply don't know a regular forum's acceptable behavior and thus when trying to advertise commit even more faux pas than they would if they knew the expected behavior. Lots of people feel that by reading a thread they need to show they did and agree or disagree. It takes time to understand you can read alot and comment a little.
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2008 00:29
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Thank you for the post. So well said!
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 20:08
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Being my first post as a member on the Work at Home Forum, I want to say that I agree with Vishal and hope to learn as well share my experiences, failures and successes.
Thanks for the advice.
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# Posted: 27 Jul 2008 15:40
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Hi everyone. This is soooo new to me and I am excited to be here. This is my first home-based business forum. I look forward to learning (I need to learn SO MUCH!) and sharing what I learn. Prosperity to you all.
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2008 11:23
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Great post Vishal!
I have learned more from forums than I have from any system I've signed up for.
I agree with Happywife in feeling like I'm being one-sided sometimes, it can be hard to stay unbias when your passinate about what you do.
It's nice to have a reminder now and then to try and keep things on a level playground!
Thanks again for the post.
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# Posted: 31 Jul 2008 09:03
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Hi Vishal
Thanks for a great post. I couldn't agree with you more that we're building longterm relationships and this takes time. But they're also the lasting kind - keep that in mind. If you plan on doing this for years to come, make sure you've got a solid, "friendly" foundation.
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# Posted: 31 Jul 2008 20:21
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Don't you all think that this is part of the lesson of forum marketing? 
Thanks Vishal, I will remember your advices.
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# Posted: 6 Aug 2008 21:49
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Thanks Vishal for your words of wisdom. I am hoping to get an education out of this forum and others as well. As to what I may be able to contribute, I only hope it will help at least one person.
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Vishal P. Rao
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# Posted: 7 Aug 2008 00:55
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hischicklet: As to what I may be able to contribute, I only hope it will help at least one person.
Cheers 
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# Posted: 7 Aug 2008 09:40
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justlikethat: Great post Vishal! I have learned more from forums than I have from any system I've signed up for. I agree with Happywife in feeling like I'm being one-sided sometimes, it can be hard to stay unbias when your passinate about what you do. It's nice to have a reminder now and then to try and keep things on a level playground! Thanks again for the post.
I agree that at times we do have to try and stay unbiased when we are passionate about what we do. Hearing more than one opinion is good and can make us more thoroughly examine things. I have also learned over the last couple of years that one should not take things personally when someone may have factual points to make or a fact based opinion.
That being said, when there are clearly verifiable facts stated about a company or program, forum members should not assume they are being stated for that person's personal benefit, but that they are strictly facts. I find that a few people get too possesive at times of threads thinking that others cannot post verifiable facts and assume there is some type of personal motive invovled when there is not.
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# Posted: 7 Aug 2008 14:24
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It all comes down to value, right?
If we have something valuable to add to the conversation, we should absolutely post and add to the shared knowledge.
If we have nothing valuable to add...our best bet is to remain silent through not posting.
Now to heed my own advice!
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# Posted: 7 Aug 2008 17:49
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Thanks Vishal... Well said. When I first started my network marketing business, I was so hesitant and apprehensive about the idea of always "selling". Turns out the best part has been learning that the real deal is simply, genuinely, connecting with people. When that is first, the business takes care of itself, and life becomes a natural joy!
Karen
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# Posted: 10 Aug 2008 09:09
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You are so right, Dorsey. Ironically, once people have found a home business they are truly happy with, you do not feel that need to force anything, because you know over time your business will always grow and there is no point in ever trying to drag people into it.
I've built my reputation as being helpful to others and one of the greatest things about assisting others learn the business you are involved in is that you can make some life long friends in the process. I value that tremendously. The other thing that is great about trying to be helpful, is you learn your business inside out LOL!
To assist others you want to make sure you are training them correctly and factually. I see some that just rush to get sign ups and have no real idea what the business they are promoting is about and in the process they can unintentionally give out incorrect information that could be passed on to others incorrectly as well.
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# Posted: 14 Aug 2008 16:27
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hi vishal,
I think what you said is great and its unprofessional doing that,i myself started doing that in forums because most newbies in online think that this is the way to get noticed while in the long run a customer is looking for a way to solve or benefit from a problem he or she is facing.
In fact most customers tend to research first what is going on especially online and if a customer sees that you are forcing him or her into your site,he or she thinks that you are a scam,trying to get into his wallet.
So if you are a newbie just use the forums for what they are intended to,and that is educating ourselves and sharing our experiences.
With that said,thanks Vishal,this is a great forum,i have learnt a lot.
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