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Aspire
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# Posted: 27 Aug 2008 09:31 · Edited by: Aspire
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dmitch31: Two glass bottles held upside down, filled with water, the mouths of the bottles under the water so the vacuum doesn't let the water evacuate the bottles. There's an electrode in each bottle. You press the button that applies the battery current to the electrodes. Gas bubbles appear on each of the electrodes and float upwards within each bottle
Hey!!! Here's some exciting info....
From the research I have been doing, if the 12v dc current is pulsed at different frequencies, the bubbles actually form half way between the electrodes as a mix of HHO... And get this.... You use 1/3rd the required current (amps)
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whiteeagle
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2008 18:09
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[b][/b]yes i instaled this on my 2001 mazda b2200 pickup i was getting 21 mpg now im gettin 36 mpg that a total of 71% increase
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2008 19:49
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If the really worked. then why is there not a big company out there investing in this, and making the product????
I think it is a buch of crap myself. If it worked there would be a car out their all over the news using this method..
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Aspire
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2008 16:20 · Edited by: Aspire
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NWA: If it worked there would be a car out their all over the news using this method..
That is what I thought before starting to research HHO. The media loves to identify scams and grandstand on them. I think they shy away from showing reports on the effectiveness of HHO because that would be like them endorsing the product. The more I looked into this, the easier it was for me to understand why companies are not jumping up and down about this.
Firstly, understand that HHO generators do not replace your fuel, they simply help the fuel you use to be burned more completely. I have already posted test results showing vehicle emissions with nearly all the unburned Hydrocarbons being eliminated in the exhaust - This means the unburned fuel previously is now being used in the cylinder to give more power requiring less fuel.
Here in Australia, the government makes around $10 Billion per year from taxing the sale of fuel - Do you think that this or any Government anywhere is going to promote the development of HHO on a commercial scale??? No way! - They would have to replace their lost revenue by increasing taxes elsewhere, and if they were to do this they would be voted immediately out of Government - Life is already too expensive on everything else.
Companies are starting to emerge offering HHO in a more professional manner, sifting through the CxxP on the internet is frustrating and sometimes quite embarrasing when trying to find ethical well set up companies to supply. I found one HERE if you are curious.
I know the problem here is everyone is scared to spend a big chunk of money on the internet to buy something that may not work. As soon as there are more ethical and effective companies than scammers, the use momentum will pick up.
I have been talking with an electronics guy who started a company to supply the O2 & Map sensors for HHO and he has been running a controled field test on HHO. What started as a part time hobby now has him working 12 hours a day to supply the request for his products.
So far he has recorded results from using 65 tanks of fuel and is nearing the end of his test program. When I get the results I will post them here.
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jastans
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2008 13:19
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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE TEMP DROPS BELOW FREEZING. Would the tubing and any other part of the system that contains water need to expand to prevent damage. Is there a way to prevent the freezing that would not effect the systems daily use?
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2008 15:24
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I have tried 3 of the hydrogen generator programs. The first 2 were ridiculously over complicated,and for minimal results. The 3rd was unbelievably simple and effective. The one I am using is the waterfuelexpert. It comes from 2 brothers in Australia and once you have the parts can be working in an hour or so.
I am running a 1 litre unit on a 30amp fuse installed on a 02 chevy siverado V8 automatic and on the freeway using cruise control have experienced as much as 36% increase in mileage. A very worthwhile improvement.
The side benefits alone made the cost and effort wothwhile, I am a mechanic for 35 years,{primarily engine builder} and can tell you the benefits of h2o in the combustion chamber is awesome.
The system is very cost effective and requires minimal mechanical inclination. I strongly recommend it.
hopes this helps
Danny
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Aspire
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# Posted: 16 Oct 2008 16:18 · Edited by: Aspire
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jastans: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE TEMP DROPS BELOW FREEZING
Your cell containment area needs to be strong enough to withstand the expansion of your water/electrolyte mix when it turns to ice. If you use an anti-freeze, you will inhibit the electrolyte mixture and decrease the cell efficiency.
If you are worried about pipes bursting - use piping that will expand. A guy on YouTube did an experiment with a totally frozen cell and when the power is applied it defrosted and started working again. With power applied the cell defrosted, but if you have a bubbler away from the cell, it would not defrost. I think having anti-freeze in the bubbler is ok. Check this out http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=D2ElkP8YNqM
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