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JTMx29
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# Posted: 3 Apr 2008 21:36
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I have seen and used happywife's SBI search tools etc. and they work ok. But I was particularly looking for some free good ways to really look into a niche? So what do you do before picking a niche to build a site on.
Thanks,
Taylor
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Mark_Worthen
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2008 00:29 · Edited by: Mark_Worthen
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JTMx29: I have seen and used happywife's SBI search tools etc. and they work ok. But I was particularly looking for some free good ways to really look into a niche? So what do you do before picking a niche to build a site on. Thanks, Taylor
The most cost-effective method is to buy a SiteBuildIt license for $399 and build your site using SBI. During the site building process you will have access to sophisticated niche research tools. These tools go more in-depth than the public tools that happywife told you about.
A lot of people exclaim, "$399 is too much to build a web site!"
If all you want to do is build a brochure site, kind of like an online business card, than you can do that with a free site builder.
But if you want to make money with your web site you have two options:
1) Buy all the tools you need a la carte. Buy a Wordtracker subscription; an SEO site analysis tool; an HTML editor; a hosting account (but make sure to choose a good one--a lot of them are lousy); a site template; a newsletter publisher and autoresponder; an in-depth, high quality Internet marketing course; a tracking program; software to create a site blog; web site submission software (or do it manually); software to facilitate visitor-created content; and probably a few more I'm forgetting.
You will also need to learn HTML; learn how to FTP your site to your server; perhaps learn CSS if you want a more sophisticated design; learn how to install a template and use it correctly--or learn how to design your own site using a graphics program, HTML, and CSS--you'll probably want to buy Dreamweaver and take a course to learn how to use it effectively; learn how to write effective copy for your website, including headlines, what font to use, how to use color, images, video, audio, etc.; how to write an autoresponder campaign and/or newsletter; and more.
2) Or use SiteBuildIt.
The choice is yours.
Mark
P.S. Note that nowhere in this post or in my signature is there an affiliate link for SBI.
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happywife
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2008 01:40
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JTMx29: I have seen and used happywife's SBI search tools etc. and they work ok. But I was particularly looking for some free good ways to really look into a niche? So what do you do before picking a niche to build a site on.
Yes, the free version I sent you is a bit limited although still helpful for some tasks, you don't have access to the paid version or the SBI brainstorming tools unless you are actually an SBI owner.
As Mark metioned, you really will need to pay if you want quality tools. You can sign up for a free wordtracker trial if you like and/or use Google's Adwords Keyword tool, but it is still going to be limited.
Mark_Worthen: The most cost-effective method is to buy a SiteBuildIt license for $399 and build your site using SBI.
Just to clarify, it's actually only $299 for the year.  The $399 was the special they were running a few weeks ago where you got an extra site for an extra $100 - a good deal they offer every few months.
Someone else may know of some good quality free tools, but I haven't heard of any others that were completely free.
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# Posted: 4 Apr 2008 01:41
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JTMx29: I have seen and used happywife's SBI search tools etc. and they work ok. But I was particularly looking for some free good ways to really look into a niche? So what do you do before picking a niche to build a site on.
Yes, the free version I sent you is a bit limited although still helpful for some tasks, you don't have access to the paid version or the SBI brainstorming tools unless you are actually an SBI owner.
As Mark metioned, you really will need to pay if you want quality tools. You can sign up for a free wordtracker trial if you like and/or use Google's Adwords Keyword tool, but it is still going to be limited.
Mark_Worthen: The most cost-effective method is to buy a SiteBuildIt license for $399 and build your site using SBI.
Just to clarify, it's actually only $299 for the year. The $399 was the special they were running a few weeks ago where you got an extra site for an extra $100 - a good deal they offer every few months.
Someone else may know of some good quality free tools, but I haven't heard of any others that were completely free.
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tidbits
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2008 07:39 · Edited by: tidbits
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I'm not familiar with SBI. I guess I started all of my websites with a budget of $0 and still operate on a similar budget even though I've earned money from the websites.
Here's a niche finder that I've used: www.nichebotclassic.com
Give it a try. It may not be as comprehensive as the ones listed in this post, but it is free.
While you're at it, here's another link that might be helpful. It's www.spyfu.com. It's a free tool that tells you how much advertisers are paying for the niche words.
Hope it helps.
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davidsharp
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2008 11:42
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I really like the free browser based resource at http://tools.seobook.com/general/keyword. I use this extensively for keyword based article marketing. I think you will find it very useful, especially if you are running firefox, if you run across a good idea, see if it is profitable as long as there are over 2,000 searches for the keyword you researching, and less than 10,000 results in google in a quotation search. Let me know what you think of it.
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VictoriaNTC
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2008 12:12
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I use NicheBot.
They have a great video tour, and I believe a discounted trial period.
I hope this helps!
Victoria
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Homeboy
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2008 14:11
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Here's a fun lil one you could have a look at...
http://www.vretoolbar.com/nichegenerator/
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Abbi
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2008 09:06
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I would say diversify first. Make a long list of niches that you know people make money with and then shorten the list to your preferences or probability of making you an income.
Then you could study existing websites in those niches and start building your own websites and promoting them.
After a while you'll see which ones work out and which don't. There are plenty of low cost or free tools out there and there are affiliate programs that will help you with design of your sites.
Research is kinda boring but pays out in the end. Just give yourself some time to look around for all the options that you have.
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gailita
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2008 11:07
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Can Someone tell me what happens if you purchase a Niche Store( say for instance on perfume) but then decide you want to promote something else, are you allowed to change to a different store or do you have to purchase another niche store? I'm new to this. Sorry for seeming like an idiot 
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Rory
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# Posted: 10 Apr 2008 20:17
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An interesting niche finding tool I came across recently is MicroNicheFinder:
http://www.micronichetool.com/profitstreams.html
Great product with a handful of additional aids built in to help you find niches, build pages for them, including grabbing content for quick article generation.
If this is fundamental to your online approach, could be worth the $67.
Note: I have given the direct URL for you to check out this site yourself. No affiliate link has been used. No financial gain for me.
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Marktech
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# Posted: 11 Apr 2008 11:44
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I use Keyword Buzz. It's a free search tool I got from one of these IM givaways. you put in a keyword and click "gather data" and it comes back with 100 variations on the keyword and gives the number of searches for each. then you click "gather data* and it comes back with the number of websites with that phrase in the title of the website from google, yahoo and msn. I can't afford a pay tool but this one works for me.
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Rory
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# Posted: 11 Apr 2008 17:34
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Marktech
Thanks for the info about KeywordBuzz, it's very handy and free.
Do you know if the 3 competition columns are all sites that come up for that keyword, or are they restricted to allintitle sites for that keyword?
It can make a difference to how you want to assess the high search to low comp figures.
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