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Drew
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Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 12
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2006 06:37
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Hi there,
Has anyone noticed that the majority of "Work From Home" do not provide a means of contact, they may have a "Contact Us" tab but this will usually mean you submitting further details to them to ask a question.
I have learnt that most sites sheidl themselves by remaining annonymous and maybe even using a dummy name as the Host.
I mean what have they got to hide?
Are they expecting many complaints or maybe even spam?
Even if there was just an email address which was genuine that would make all the difference in developing a sense of trust with different sites.
What do you think?
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mcbsconsulting
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Joined: 15 Oct 2005
Posts: 179
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2006 09:53
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Hey Drew,
I think that any site that has a contact, but no real info is just another way to get YOUR E-Mail address.
Have you noticed a lot of Spam in your e-mail that says you visited their site and so they thought you would be interested in something they found?
It took forever to get rid of the Spam (still ongoing) after responding to only 2 of these type sites for more info.
Beware of Any site that doesn't have Good Contact Info.
Good Luck,
Joe
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piggybanker
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Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2006 19:58
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Quoting: Drew Hi there,
Has anyone noticed that the majority of "Work From Home" do not provide a means of contact, they may have a "Contact Us" tab but this will usually mean you submitting further details to them to ask a question.
I have learnt that most sites sheidl themselves by remaining annonymous and maybe even using a dummy name as the Host.
I mean what have they got to hide?
Are they expecting many complaints or maybe even spam?
Even if there was just an email address which was genuine that would make all the difference in developing a sense of trust with different sites.
What do you think?
I don't know what the pros do, but I don't leave my email addys out. Leaving an email leaves you open to every spammer out there. I keep two yahoo accounts for spam because I have left my email addy's out before. Most forums allow a place to add them or they offer PM or private messaging.......I like that.
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WhitePhoenix
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Joined: 3 Jan 2006
Posts: 257
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2006 23:33
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I have heard there is a way to 'bounce back' spam mail to the sender. Give them a taste of their own medicine. I have been deluged with spam, and there is no link to click on to 'unsubscribe'! But unfortunately, I don't know what you have to do to 'bounce' back this unwanted mail, so I have to go through them on a daily basis and delete. Sigh.
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Vishal P. Rao
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Joined: 23 Jun 2005
Posts: 491
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2006 23:40
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Quoting: Drew Even if there was just an email address which was genuine that would make all the difference in developing a sense of trust with different sites.
Because of spam, it's usually smart to hide your email addresses. Spam bots are quick to harvest any exposed email addresses from websites. On other hand, just listing an email address does not mean the company is genuine.
The important thing to look for is to see if a genuine contact address and telephone no. is listed. You may also want to cross check by doing a whois on the domain. Most scam sites have fake US addresses listed on their website as their contact info but the registrant contact info in the domain is of some other country.
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A8ch
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Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2006 18:44 � Edited by: A8ch
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Quoting: piggybanker I don't know what the pros do, but I don't leave my email addys out. Leaving an email leaves you open to every spammer out there.
PiggyBanker,
Your statement echoes the frustration felt by hundreds of thousands of legitimate Internet users who need to display an email address, but feel helpless to combat the flood of spam that follows.
Where spam is concerned, there are only two realities:
1. To avoid spam completely, simply don't go online!
2. The very best you can hope for is to limit the amount of spam you get.
Today's reliance on the Internet makes the first suggestion impractical, so the second is where we have to focus our attention.
Here are some helpful solutions that require no more than a little common sense, a smattering of HTML markup, programming and some graphic skill.
(a) Never use an email address in the traditional way on your site.
e.g. [email protected]
Among other methods, spammers use robots - tiny computer applications - to search the Internet gobbling up email address from Web sites. These robots can only read text, and they are designed to look for the @ symbol that is part of every email address.
By substituting in the HTML source code the @ symbol for the HTML number code & # 6 4 ; (no spaces) the address displays the same way to the viewer, but is indecipherable to the robots. (I imagine some robots may be programmed to look for the HTML number code as well.)
(b) Avoid using the HTML mailto attribute
A quick and simple way to add email convenience to your Web site is via the mailto attribute.
Example: Your site's HTML source code reads...
<a href="mailto:[email protected]">Email me!</a>
On the site it's displayed as a link that says Email me! When clicked it automatically launches the viewer's email client. This can be easily abused. A safer and much more sophitcated and professional approach would be to...
(c) Use forms on your Web site
Forms require knowledge of server-side scripting, and although not foolproof, they make it more challenging for spammers and will dramatically reduce the incidents of spam you encounter.
(d) Display your address as an image
Open your favorite graphics program and custom make an image of your email address. Adjust your source code accordingly and upload the image. The address image will be clearly visible to viewers but safe from spam robots, since they can only read text.
But let's face it. Regardless of the safeguards, as long as your email address can be viewed by a human being, it can be copied, pasted or typed into an email client and delivered.
Spam, like pollution, is something we live with at the moment, while we do our best to cut down on it in the future.
Hermas
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Vishal P. Rao
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Joined: 23 Jun 2005
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# Posted: 16 Jan 2006 00:47 � Edited by: Vishal P. Rao
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Great suggestions Hermas!
Quoting: A8ch (c) Use forms on your Web site
Forms require knowledge of server-side scripting, and although not foolproof, they make it more challenging for spammers and will dramatically reduce the incidents of spam you encounter.
You might be surprised to know that spammers can hijack regular forms too! I used to have a form script like the popular FormMail and on one instance I got an email from my web host that a spammer had hijacked my form to send spam. I was later told to use a more sophisticated form mailing alternative called cgiemail. Most webhosts have it installed and it's easy to configure too.
Quoting: A8ch By substituting in the HTML source code the @ symbol for the HTML number code & # 6 4 ; (no spaces) the address displays the same way to the viewer, but is indecipherable to the robots. (I imagine some robots may be programmed to look for the HTML number code as well.)
You can also use different ways to represent @ like [at] or (at) - name(at)domain.com. Many websites implement them and it's not hard to grasp for visitors.
I feel using an image is best alternative as suggested by Hermas.
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piggybanker
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Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 83
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# Posted: 16 Jan 2006 17:51
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Hermas and Vishal,
Amen ya'll. I've done this on poker sites to fool the robots:
yourname at yahoo dot com
myname at msn dot com
etc...
I really like the making an image idea. I better hurry. I left an addy out lol.
said mt_nests at yahoo dot com who doesn't reply without Krazy in the subject because this is a spam bucket box anyway
PB
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